Delisted 13. Liam Stocker

[BlueGum]

Surprise!
And welcome Liam Stocker. You crack in. Love that.

 

[Mitchell54]

Great trade. Great value. great player. Congrats.

 

[HavUEvaSeenTheRain]

Is it me or do we have the best midfield in the league in 3 years?

Hopefully. GC will probably be saying a forward line of JL, 2MP, King, Ainsworth, Martin and Rankine will be the best forward line in the comp. At the end of the day they are just names and only Fisher and Cripps have played to the level so far.
The pressure fully goes onto Bolts and Co now to get the best out of these kids.

 

[Sector 7G]

There's no tenth round, bit even of there were, the points fade into nothing meaning eventually some picks are worth no points.

Not every high draft pick works out. History tells us that having one number one pick is as likely to yield a syar as say having five picks in the early 30s.

The only caveat to that, is that a team only has so many spots on a list and the ability to get games into so many players. If you are wasting 4 list spots to find a player your list management will struggle. Give me the low risk potential gun every day.

 

[Richo83]

The only caveat to that, is that a team only has so many spots on a list and the ability to get games into so many players. If you are wasting 4 list spots to find a player your list management will struggle. Give me the low risk potential gun every day.

Carlton's firsts and seconds have gaps needed to be filled. Furthermore, you can't just build from blue chip assets, you need to supplement them with later picks. Regarding the picks in the 30s, Carlton is rebuilding, so cycling through a few picks in the 30s to see if they're good won't do them any harm.

But sure, I wouldn't have given up pick one for five on the 30s. I wasn't suggesting that would make sense. My point is bigfooty often overestimates the value of high picks and underestimates the value of later picks. Pick one for five in the 30s would be bad. What SOS did though was smart.

 

[The Fantom]

Hopefully. GC will probably be saying a forward line of JL, 2MP, King, Ainsworth, Martin and Rankine will be the best forward line in the comp. At the end of the day they are just names and only Fisher and Cripps have played to the level so far.
The pressure fully goes onto Bolts and Co now to get the best out of these kids.

WOW, if GC hang onto those players and they develop as expected, that’s one scary forward line... if.

 

[Monkey King]

Yep. Brilliant move.

Thats 8 young midfielders now: Walsh, Stocker (18), Dow (19), Fisher, SPS, Setterfield (20), Kennedy (21) and Cripps (24).

Don’t forget about LOB. He could be a beauty too.

 

[blueballs99]

I really like this trade for the blues. No offence but your team needs more depth and this is a deep draft for midfielders. If you look at the draft calculator, even if say Adelaide finish with pick 5 and Carlton finish with pick 20, you've lost the equivalent of.... pick 44. Not worth panicking about blues fans. I like the fit for Carlton and the blues have their midfield tent pegs in Cripps, Walsh and Dow anyway, time to fill it in a bit. I know most people would prefer 5 and 44 to 19 and 20 but if you look at the history of the draft they're not that dissimilar in terms of the talent brought in. Carlton need more picks and this gets you that. Adelaide will death ride you but you've got the main pieces already.

Where did you get pick 20 from ..did you pluck it from your ass ..more like pick 10 we will get

 

[blueballs99]

Why didn't he go pick 1 then?

He flew under the radar .... Needs to improve his running and endurance ..he can play.

 

[Canyouhearthedrums]

There is zero point in trying to judge the trade til it all plays out . However, I love that we have a team that are willing to back their judgement and take risks.

 

[ShanDog]

It's probably been said but it deserves repeating - geez he is a good looking rooster. Bloody unit for an 18/19 year old too.

 

[LanceRomance]

It's probably been said but it deserves repeating - geez he is a good looking rooster. Bloody unit for an 18/19 year old too.

Stop it Shan, I am right here but unlike other 18/19 year olds I am actually 34 years old

 

[RedmanWasHere]

Stocker has similar attributes to an Angus Brayshaw

Funny you mention Brayshaw as that photo of his mullet reminded me of his brother Andrew.

 

[blueballs99]

Is it me or do we have the best midfield in the league in 3 years?

We have the best under developed midfield in the league ...current

 

[ShanDog]

Stop it Shan, I am right here but unlike other 18/19 year olds I am actually 34 years old

It's ok, you can identify as 18 now!

 

[Arr0w]

Why didn't he go pick 1 then?

Similar. ..

 

[blueballs99]

Could have a bigger impact than Walsh . You just never know

 

[Hippster]

Great move! You won’t be bottom 4 next year.
Cripps, Murphy, Docherty, Petreski-Seton, Kennedy, Setterfield, O’Brien, Walsh, Fisher, Cunningham, Dow, Stocker. Good depth finally.

 

[HARKER]

God the media make me so angry. Can’t wait to rub our success in their face
Nobody is congratulating SOS, it’s all about how when we finish last next year we have given up number 1.
Their anti Carlton sentiment astounds me. Can they not see the list we are putting together...

And Sydney being portrayed like they are genius.

Was hoping to read some in depth articles today on how exciting Carlton looks in 2019 but got nothing! Just doom and gloom


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Like us here, they simply haven't got the whole picture.

This was a very calculated selection and without knowing what next years plans are, it's a sort of futile discussion.

 

[Hands On]

Welcome to Carlton Liam.

Been flat out the last month and haven't been active on here. I knew Wash was a given and switched off after we took him at 1. Get up this morning to see this. WOW!!!!. Had to read every post in this thread.

Who cares what we have given up and where the crows or we finish next year. The kid looks quality give him 2 years with Russel and look out. We will have a very handy midfield when we are in our window, mosquito fleet MKII. We took the risk we had take, if this kid is rated high by us why wait for next year.

I think our minds are clouded by our ladder position and results this year. A fit injury free list plus the additions over the last month will see a significant improvement in our win loss ratio. based on this this move was a great choice.

We need to trust in SOS and his team, they are not monkeys. I am going to enjoy watching our midfield develop and start ripping everyone a new one.

 

[BluesRule]

No, we get Adelaide’s first, inevitably a little lower pick than ours tracked to be.

Like it. A pick upgrade next year and a bonus high potential mid this year.

SOS is a genius.

Now we just need to finish above Adelaide next year...

 

[HARKER]

For those curious, when the club was discussing trading down Stocker was one of the guys in our list of players to grab. We had him in the top 6 prospects.

Top 6?

Walsh, Rankine, MKing, Lukosius ............? Stocker
Top 6 on talent or top 6 for the CFC?


BTW: Welcome Liam

 

[TerryWallet]

His list.

Taranto
B. King
M. King
McGrath
Setterfield
A. Brayshaw
Smith
Florent
Stocker
H. Brayshaw

Thx for the research Dravid. Not how i remembered it. I'm sure he had Setters higher and Andy lower. Maybe he altered it or it was something he said in a follow up....or more likely, maybe my memory was wrong.

Cheers

 

[Aphrodite]

 

[Aphrodite]