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That’s good to hear. Why is he lacking with fitness though? Was he injured?
Just doesn't have a big tank yet - some people have it, some need to work on it.
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That’s good to hear. Why is he lacking with fitness though? Was he injured?
Just doesn't have a big tank yet - some people have it, some need to work on it.
I dont get why everyone is talking about his tank. Surely that is past history ? The guy has been doing extra work since he arrived. he is by all reports a very motivated man and I cannot see how he fails to catch up with group. if he is not with them already, he certainly will be by the end of the preseason
Ok. How long does it generally take to build a tank though? I would have though since joining us last draft he would have worked on this and should be ok by now (nearly 12 months). Hence my question about potential injuries which may have restricted him from training.Just doesn't have a big tank yet - some people have it, some need to work on it.
Ok. How long does it generally take to build a tank though? I would have though since joining us last draft he would have worked on this and should be ok by now (nearly 12 months). Hence my question about potential injuries which may have restricted him from training.
We don't know that as fact and only time will tell.
He'd want to be better than Viojo-Rainbow, though. Recall watching Dillon desperately trying to keep up with Cam Wood and Liam Jones.
Really got ourselves an athlete that year.........and we were going to make him a mid-fielder too. Amazing.
sure. but I am more concerned about the reports of extra work that he is doing and the way he talks. That tells me that he is going to get there- and sooner rather than later. Good sign that the club extended his contract too.
Ok. How long does it generally take to build a tank though? I would have though since joining us last draft he would have worked on this and should be ok by now (nearly 12 months). Hence my question about potential injuries which may have restricted him from training.
Nothing just a young player who will benefit from another pre season.That’s good to hear. Why is he lacking with fitness though? Was he injured?
Ok. How long does it generally take to build a tank though? I would have though since joining us last draft he would have worked on this and should be ok by now (nearly 12 months). Hence my question about potential injuries which may have restricted him from training.
The tank thats getting built is to Elite standards. Takes yrs, a gun mid fielder is a freak of an athlete, we kinda forget how truly exceptional A grade AFL runners are, as a pure athlet, AFL mids/guy runners towel up most other professional athletes.Ok. How long does it generally take to build a tank though? I would have though since joining us last draft he would have worked on this and should be ok by now (nearly 12 months). Hence my question about potential injuries which may have restricted him from training.
Scary to think then how professional/disciplined Walsh must be to be able to play seniors full season in his first year.The tank thats getting built is to Elite standards. Takes yrs, a gun mid fielder is a freak of an athlete, we kinda forget how truly exceptional A grade AFL runners are, as a pure athlet, AFL mids/guy runners towel up most other professional athletes.
A fair comparison to your body size/physiological make up effecting things would be Dustin Martin and Patrick Dangerfields careers. I'm not suggesting they're similar players as Stocker, merely a fitness comparison, but both entered the league with very questionable fitness tanks but were obviously power athletes. Neither of them really took off until early/mid 20s (22-24 sort of range) once they had several pre-seasons of fitness behind them. They played forward with a steadying increase in mid time as they went. I don't know if Stocker has the forward nous of those 2, hence why we tried him in the half back line, so the philosophy might be the same.It can most certainly be built over time and Liam looks certainly to have those hard working, dedicated qualities in order to achieve that. The generally accepted wisdom is that it takes most players 3-4 pre-seasons to get that continuity and residual fitness to a point where they are on par with AFL standard mids.
There is however a genetic element to things as well as a physiological make up among other things that plays a role as well. To my extremely untrained eye, Stocker looks to be a natural 'power' athlete rather than an 'endurance' one. There is a pretty good reason why almost all 100m sprinters look like Hercules and Ethiopians and Kenyans are better suited to marathons. I was for this reason, a little surprised to see Liam look so jacked this pre-season, but more than happy to trust our sports science department on this.
Dow is another struggling with endurance. His grand final sprint was very poor. They need to build his tank too.
Dow is another struggling with endurance. His grand final sprint was very poor. They need to build his tank too.
I wouldn’t say that. It gives the perception to everyone watching that he is unfit. If you’re not going to give it a red hot go then don’t participate.How many times did Fevola win the GF sprint?
Appreciate he needs to work on endurance, but please, the GF sprint doesn’t mean a thing.
I wouldn’t say that. It gives the perception to everyone watching that he is unfit. If you’re not going to give it a red hot go then don’t participate.
I wouldn’t say that. It gives the perception to everyone watching that he is unfit. If you’re not going to give it a red hot go then don’t participate.
Ed: Dow is no fev and never will be anywhere near his standard.
They're not completely disconnected from eachother. You can lose gas on a 100m sprint easily and slow down well before finishing. It's not like a 40 yard dash where it's literally just run up to full speed then you're done, a 100m sprint you need to get up to full speed then maintain it for another 50-60 metres which is not easy to do, and is something Dow clearly struggled with.Strange thing comparing fitness to raw leg speed which is what a sprint race is about.
How would Ed Curnow go in the Grand final sprint? Is he unfit?
Yeah I don't know wha that was about.
Surely Cuningham, SPS, Fish, etc would have him covered? Maybe too valuable to jeopardise on something irrelevant.
Of course perception is important. Maybe not to the same degree as some other situations but in that race you are wearing a jumper (brand) with sponsors names on them and you come last and treat it as a bit of fun. What would the stakeholders be thinking? Teague, ARussell, sponsors etc.Who cares about perception?
The sprint is treated as a bit of fun by all. Ultimately it is completely meaningless.
Of course perception is important. Maybe not to the same degree as some other situations but in that race you are wearing a jumper (brand) with sponsors names on them and you come last and treat it as a bit of fun. What would the stakeholders be thinking? Teague, ARussell, sponsors etc.