Traded #13: Orazio Fantasia - Off to Carlton as a delisted free agent, scored a 2 year deal?

[Vander18]

Don’t know if it’s just genetics or a * up with his weights program but Raz has that classic skinny legs, pigeon chest Physique - like a scaled down Brereton. That body type seems very prone to breaking down.

Not sure how but he needs to somehow rebalance his body.

 

[TheGrizz]

Gosh darnit

 

[EnolaGay]

Calf injury. Can't take a trick with the soft tissue stuff.

Marty is a good (better in terms of HBF) replacement.

I'm hoping Orazio's injury is minor and they're being very conservative given the tight programme ahead.

 

[DERO]

Calf injury. Can't take a trick with the soft tissue stuff.

Marty is a good (better in terms of HBF) replacement.

I'm hoping Orazio's injury is minor and they're being very conservative given the tight programme ahead.

Has any other club had such a bad run with injuries to talented players over such a short period of time?

Gumbleton, Pears, Winderlich, Fantasia Rama, Daniher etc.

 

[srobbo]

Raz the player is almost an afterthought these days, because he’s always injured. I’m ok with trading him because we just aren’t getting a ROI even when is he fit.

Atleast it gives a sustained opportunity now for a kid like Cahill.

 

[andleanback]

Well he won’t be going home at the end of the year, no one is going to give him an extension to move clubs with his recent injury history. Winderlich 2.0, doubt we’ll ever see the best of him (2017 form) again.

 

[Blind Turn]

Well from the perspective above I guess it’s RIP Raz...

 

[Schnitzengruben]

Geez, you'd think his leg got amputated with some of the talk here.

 

[Vander18]

Geez, you'd think his leg got amputated with some of the talk here.

Not without some reason - been years since he had a really good run at it and played his best footy.

 

[ghostdog]

Geez, you'd think his leg got amputated with some of the talk here.

No, I'm just at a point where my patience is done. Raz is a shadow of the player he used to be and we can cover his absence without much pain. Maybe a second-rounder. That'll help us land Eyre/Brand.

 

[EnolaGay]

Has any other club had such a bad run with injuries to talented players over such a short period of time?

Gumbleton, Pears, Winderlich, Fantasia Rama, Daniher etc.

Probably most clubs, however, we really only take note of our own players. Doesn't make it any less frustrating.

 

[eth-dog]

No, I'm just at a point where my patience is done. Raz is a shadow of the player he used to be and we can cover his absence without much pain. Maybe a second-rounder. That'll help us land Eyre/Brand.

Eyre looks likely a 4th round prospect tbh

 

[ghostdog]

Eyre looks likely a 4th round prospect tbh

...or an inside mid of some description, again.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Club injury report, MRI confirmed calf strain and out for 3-4 weeks.

Unfortunately I think that just about makes the decision for us.

We just carry too many injury prone players, we do have some depth at small forward and he’s known to have wanted out.

IMO we push for a trade at season’s end and get what we can.

 

[Lore]

Building up running loads, rejoin main training in a week

Essendon may be boosted by the likely returns of both Cale Hooker and Orazio Fantasia over the next fortnight as they continue their recovery from calf injuries.

Head of medical services David Rundle said the pair would build up their running loads over the next week before reintegrating with the main training group.

“Both Cale and Orazio are doing very well," Rundle said.

"Whilst they both do have calf strains, their pathologies are somewhat different, so they’re being managed differently with their programs. They’ve both commenced running and they’ll need to build their running loads over the next week or so before they rejoin with the main group."

Injury update: All Australians progressing

All the latest injury news ahead of round 10.

www.essendonfc.com.au

 

[CBombers17]

Should have been accomodated with a move last year along with any others that didn't see themselves as part of the solution and future of the club.

 

[eth-dog]

Should have been accomodated with a move last year along with any others that didn't see themselves as part of the solution and future of the club.

A bit hard when he never requested a trade.

 

[CBombers17]

A bit hard when he never requested a trade.

Why did Heppell have the well reported coffee with him? Genuine question as i wasn't focused on it at the time. I thought it was us desperately talking him into staying - not unlike others.

 

[Vander18]

TBH it’s increasingly hard to excited about Raz returning....

1) He hasn’t been at his best for so long now

2) It feels utterly inevitable that he’ll just get injured again

 

[eth-dog]

Why did Heppell have the well reported coffee with him? Genuine question as i wasn't focused on it at the time. I thought it was us desperately talking him into staying - not unlike others.

I don't know, I wasn't there. Maybe they were chatting about whether or not he should stay. Maybe they were chatting about other stuff. But if someone doesn't request a trade and you want to keep them it makes it kinda hard to trade them

 

[CBombers17]

I don't know, I wasn't there. Maybe they were chatting about whether or not he should stay. Maybe they were chatting about other stuff. But if someone doesn't request a trade and you want to keep them it makes it kinda hard to trade them

So looked it up. The Clubs talked and somehow couldn't get a deal done - but somehow Port were pissed off over it ??(not us though apparently) - Tim Watson quote -
Watson said the strong leadership feedback for Fantasia would be a surprise for many outside the club.

“I find it interesting with Orazio Fantasia that the players, given the fact that he was … undecided about what we wanted to do – I think he wanted to leave and then didn’t want to leave – but they would still think that he’s committed enough to be in the leadership group. I find that really extraordinary,” Watson told SEN Breakfast on Wednesday morning.

Wanted to go then didn't want to go. Sounds really familiar. We get a lot of these it seems. I don't really follow other clubs. Maybe they all have leaders and top players with the same problem. Maybe it was the thought of the 2 years left on his heavily front ended contract that eventually made him want to stay and honour things? Lucky us.

 

[Lore]

Hasn't joined group training yet.

Orazio Fantasia is also recovering from a calf injury, but less progressed than Hooker.

“Orazio has been a little bit slower to progress. He did sustain his injury a week after Cale and he’s not at the point yet where he’s available to train with the group.”

Injury update: Rd 11

All the latest injury news ahead of two games in five days.

www.essendonfc.com.au

 

[Lore]

Not this week, maybe not next week either.

The club has all but ruled out Cale Hooker and Orazio Fantasia for the match against Richmond, with the pair in the frame to return from calf injuries against Hawthorn next week.

"Orazio had a somewhat slower-than-expected start to his rehabilitation. He's up and going really well at the moment. We don't think he'll play this week, but we'll monitor him closely over the next week or so and see where's he at."

Injury update: Rd 13

All the latest injury news, including Jake Stringer's possible return against Richmond.

www.essendonfc.com.au

 

[Falcon27]

Not this week, maybe not next week either.

https://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/797524/injury-update--13

This was reported as minor calf strain. He has now missed 4 weeks, and another 2 likely. This sh!t goes on year after year with this club where players seem to take twice as long as expected to recover from injuries. We continually bring in new fitness people, but nothing changes. Why the f@ck does this only seem to happen at Essendon!

 

[SherbertLemon]

cooked