14,583

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He smashed you in this...beat you at your own game .

Back on topic... So who is to blame......, who is responsible for your second lowest crowd on record?

No Port are heading for their worst year crowd wise, they are currently averaging 21,265 but given they have home games against West Coast and Brisbane to go (neither of teams draw well in Adelaide) expect that figure to be even lower than that once the season is over. If things really fall away and they pull under 14,300 to each game then their average could potentially go down to under 20,000

 

[Mattrox]

What were the time slots and how did they go last weekend?

 

[kaltmeibel]

Then why are many pundits predicting them to be a force in a few years?

Who the cash strapped power???

Now that's just sad really.

 

[JimmyDE]

Give it up lads.

 

[D_One]

So now you're trying to use semantics to justify your crowds against the Gold Coast ? Wow what a joke your club has become

They pulled nearly 16k against Geelong about three weeks ago and only pulled 12k against us in round 1, the argument you're trying to invent has no basis.

Maybe the real reason for the crowds is that, like you, they have jumped off the Poort Power bandwagon and jumped on the anti-Crows one instead.

So you want to compare Gold Coast round 3 Saturday night game against Essendon (17,069) with our round 18 Saturday early game against Essendon (17,344).

What happens when you compare Gold Coast's round 18 Saturday night game against Sydney (11,169) with our round 3 Saturday early game against Sydney (19,032).

Time slots and time of year matter.

Yes Port's crowds are down due to poor performance but there is also an underlying problem with crowds in SA ... and has been for the last few years. The fact that the Camry Crows are having their third lowest crowds ever in a season where they have been top 4 most of the year highlights this. It's all good and well to blame the Port Adelaide administration which has been cashed starved by a rapacious SANFL but what have the custodians of the game in SA done to help the problem.

 

[D_One]

Let's have a look at the time you say that the GWS game is an outlier using method (a) of the median-1.5xIRQ.

If I use median-1.5xIRQ to define an outlier, then the attendence figure is considered an outlier, ie an anomoly.

And what do you say when I produce the maths showing that game is not an outlier using method (a) of the median-1.5xIRQ.

Since the actual value for GWS does not lie outside method a) there is no need to calculate method b).

Forever be known as a lying sack of shit.

 

[The Karma Bus]

Let's have a look at the time you say that the GWS game is an outlier using method (a) of the median-1.5xIRQ.



And what do you say when I produce the maths showing that game is not an outlier using method (a) of the median-1.5xIRQ.



Forever be known as a lying sack of shit.

 

[jackster83]

PPFC (est 1997) members: 37,279
AFC (est 1990) members: 46,028

Last home game:

PPFC (est 1997): 14,584
39% of ticketed members

AFC (est 1990): 40,274
87% of ticketed members

Must be the SANFL's fault...

 

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So you want to compare Gold Coast round 3 Saturday night game against Essendon (17,069) with our round 18 Saturday early game against Essendon (17,344).

What happens when you compare Gold Coast's round 18 Saturday night game against Sydney (11,169) with our round 3 Saturday early game against Sydney (19,032).

Time slots and time of year matter.

Yes Port's crowds are down due to poor performance but there is also an underlying problem with crowds in SA ... and has been for the last few years. The fact that the Camry Crows are having their third lowest crowds ever in a season where they have been top 4 most of the year highlights this. It's all good and well to blame the Port Adelaide administration which has been cashed starved by a rapacious SANFL but what have the custodians of the game in SA done to help the problem.

More rubbish, more deflections, more blame and more denial.

Why do you direct the blame for every fault down at Alberton everywhere else but Port Adelaide ?

So little answers, so many pathetic excuses. Hopefully for Port's sake guys like Keith Thomas aren't as feeble minded to their plight as some of their supporters appear to be.

 

[Mattrox]

Let's have a look at the time you say that the GWS game is an outlier using method (a) of the median-1.5xIRQ.



And what do you say when I produce the maths showing that game is not an outlier using method (a) of the median-1.5xIRQ.



Forever be known as a lying sack of shit.

Since you didn't wait until my full explanaion, which I couldn't do at the time and started shooting accusations, I didn't feel the need to tell you my methodology. All my calculations are correct. I don't need you to check them for me. Others with ACTUAL statistical knowlegde could have pulled me up at any time. I also never advocated completely removing that game from actual season averages, just to have a look at how this novel event in the history of AFL is affecting data. In addition I clearly demonstrated that the GC and GWS introductions have affected the AFL crowd numbers as a whole, supporting the notion it is a novel event. I have no need to provide you with anymore information because you went off fapping about something that you percieved as a lie, or in fact twisted so you could shoot off accusations. The worst I could be accused of is a rushed explanation, which in any case you didn't understand. But you are the master of deflection, when something doesn't suit your argument you just make up crap.

I have a pile more evidence that will come out in due course, but you will need to go take a comprehensive stats course to keep up.

The fact is you have been found out, using selevtive and rubbery figures to maintain your assertions which are entirely invald. You do it repeadedly and you do it often. I have called you out and you don't like it.

And infact I make the counter claims:

 

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PPFC (est 1997) members: 37,279
AFC (est 1990) members: 46,028

Last home game:

PPFC (est 1997): 14,584
39% of ticketed members

AFC (est 1990): 40,274
87% of ticketed members

Must be the SANFL's fault...

Isn't the old chustnut that there were thousands more people there than that, it was just that the SANFL deliberately weren't scanning their tickets

 

[Drakescoffeecake]

One of the 14,583 strong supporters. Perhaps she should take up knitting to keep the mind active?

 

[Goat 53]

One of the 14,583 strong supporters. Perhaps she should take up knitting to keep the mind active?

Port Adelaide stuck the knife into SA football back in 1990 for this. They should hang their heads in shame.

 

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But without your GWS game you would still have your third lowest average ever. What makes you think you would have drawn Carlton and got 40K. How do you know you would have gotten Brisbane and only 32K?

So why are the Camry Crows having their third lowest crowd average in a year when they have been mostly top 4 even after you take out the GWS game?

Because our peaks and troughs are far smaller and less volatile than Poorts. Best way judge this is by comparing the averages from this year against each club's average home crowds.

We are currently only 3,474 away from our average crowd since we've been in the competition (average is 40,298 this year we're 36,824). Port on the other hand are down 6,965 from their average (average is 28,261 and this year Poort's average crowd is 21,265).

Percentage wise we are currently down 8.6% from average while Port on the other hand are down 24.7% percent. Surely if all the trends and excuse you try and give to deflect were even slightly valid then surely during our worst ever season (2011) our crowds should have also been about 24.7% down from average, but they werent they were only down 13%.

If we expand that further your crowds so far this year is the equivallent of the Crows having an average crowd of 30,344. So whatever excuses you want to throw up the numbers once again clearly show that Poort's crowd number have dropped away significantly more than ours.

 

[D_One]

Since you didn't wait until my full explanaion, which I couldn't do at the time and started shooting accusations, I didn't feel the need to tell you my methodology.

Didn't feel??? You couldn't without exposing yourself as a lying sack of shit ... and you still haven't as you would expose yourself as a lying sack of shit.

All my calculations are correct. I don't need you to check them for me.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I checked them and you lied. That's why you won't reproduce them.

Others with ACTUAL statistical knowlegde could have pulled me up at any time.

There was no need for others to pull you up as I already exposed you as a lying sack of shit.

I also never advocated completely removing that game from actual season averages,

Yes you did. Lies cannot paper over the cracks of other lies.

just to have a look at how this novel event in the history of AFL is affecting data. In addition I clearly demonstrated that the GC and GWS introductions have affected the AFL crowd numbers as a whole, supporting the notion it is a novel event.

But you called the GWS game an outlier using method (a) of the median-1.5xIRQ and it wasn't. It was in fact a lie.

I have no need to provide you with anymore information because you went off fapping about something that you percieved as a lie, or in fact twisted so you could shoot off accusations.

I accuse you of being a liar because I have shown you to be a liar.

The worst I could be accused of is a rushed explanation, which in any case you didn't understand.

Rushed explanation??? Can you explain using method (a) of the median-1.5xIRQ that the GWS game is an outlier like you claimed, you lying sack of shit.

But you are the master of deflection, when something doesn't suit your argument you just make up crap.

What like calling the GWS game an outlier using method (a) of the median-1.5xIRQ. BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

I have a pile more evidence that will come out in due course, but you will need to go take a comprehensive stats course to keep up.

Here's a hint, don't fabricate or lie when presenting it.

The fact is you have been found out, using selevtive and rubbery figures to maintain your assertions which are entirely invald.

Thank you for that grandiose broad sweeping statement but do you have any facts to back that up?

You do it repeadedly and you do it often. I have called you out and you don't like it.

Proof please. Like the proof I provided to show that the GWS game IS NOT AN OUTLIER using method (a) of the median-1.5xIRQ

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

 

[Damp Squarie]

One of the 14,583 strong supporters. Perhaps she should take up knitting to keep the mind active?

She looks to be wearing the real Port Adelaide scarf too
Perhaps she was trucked in from some aged care centre in the Port to prop up attendance figures.

By the way, attendance figures have been on the rise at Skoda Stadium in the past 3 weeks:

8102 v Collingwood
7669 v Adelaide
7538 v Richmond

Will the trend go arse up this week or will more people roll up due to the possiblity of Matthew Primroses last game?

 

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She looks to be wearing the real Port Adelaide scarf too
Perhaps she was trucked in from some aged care centre in the Port to prop up attendance figures.

By the way, attendance figures have been on the rise at Skoda Stadium in the past 3 weeks:

8102 v Collingwood
7669 v Adelaide
7538 v Richmond

Will the trend go arse up this week or will more people roll up due to the possiblity of Matthew Primroses last game?

I wonder if Dee will go this week ? Now we all know that he prefers coming to see us than Poort, but hopefully he can make the trip out to Skoda this week.

Maybe a big win too to help secure minibus' job (fingers crossed)

 

[D_One]

More rubbish, more deflections, more blame and more denial.

Why do you direct the blame for every fault down at Alberton everywhere else but Port Adelaide ?

So little answers, so many pathetic excuses. Hopefully for Port's sake guys like Keith Thomas aren't as feeble minded to their plight as some of their supporters appear to be.

You failed to address this concern.

The fact that the Camry Crows are having their third lowest crowds ever in a season where they have been top 4 most of the year highlights this. It's all good and well to blame the Port Adelaide administration which has been cashed starved by a rapacious SANFL but what have the custodians of the game in SA done to help the problem?

 

[subaru]

I wonder if Dee will go this week ? Now we all know that he prefers coming to see us than Poort, but hopefully he can make the trip out to Skoda this week.

Maybe a big win too to help secure minibus' job (fingers crossed)

He won't go.
If he says he does then he's a .... what is it again ??? A lying sack of shit , is it ?

Torrential rain and Northern Stand say hi.

 

[Mattrox]

Isn't the old chustnut that there were thousands more people there than that, it was just that the SANFL deliberately weren't scanning their tickets

This is also completely false.... Funny story to go with it but remind me later to tell you. Really busy now.

 

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You failed to address this concern.

I already did we are only 8.6% from our average overall crowd figure whereas Port currently are 24.7% away from theirs. Even at our worst (2011) we were still only 13% down from our average.

Considering your are constantly trying to pretend that the fall away in crowds are supposedly linked then why aren't our crowd figures down on average to the same level as Poort's ?

Your average crowd this year is the equivallent of us having a 30,000 average. Yes there is an issue with a moderate drop in the crowd numbers in SA, but the Crows numbers do not correlate to anywhere near the same level as the drop off in Poort's crowd numbers which suggests that your constant attempts to try and deflect away Poort poor crowd figures are misguided.

 

[Damp Squarie]

^^
Pwned once more D_feated...you should throw in the towel like Freo did at 3/4 time last week.

 

[Mattrox]

I already did we are only 8.6% from our average overall crowd figure whereas Port currently are 24.7% away from theirs. Even at our worst (2011) we were still only 13% down from our average.

Considering your are constantly trying to pretend that the fall away in crowds are supposedly linked then why aren't our crowd figures down on average to the same level as Poort's ?

Your average crowd this year is the equivallent of us having a 30,000 average. Yes there is an issue with a moderate drop in the crowd numbers in SA, but the Crows numbers do not correlate to anywhere near the same level as the drop off in Poort's crowd numbers which suggests that your constant attempts to try and deflect away Poort poor crowd figures are misguided.

Now that's at least 4 different ways that D has been demonstrated that our crowd numbers are not in trouble. Just because he wants to make the Crows look bad he chooses not to accept any reason, or any evidence that his assertions are crap.


The significant lack of other Power fans posting for the last 3 days should be enough fence that they are trying to distance themselves from his spurious claims and accusations. One of you fellow Port supporters should really shoot him a PM because fans like him are giving the lot of you a bad name. But I fear D is a loose cannon, prematurely discharging, spraying his ammunition everywhere.It gets messy, but luckily his ammunition is all dud.

 

[D_One]

I already did we are only 8.6% from our average overall crowd figure whereas Port currently are 24.7% away from theirs. Even at our worst (2011) we were still only 13% down from our average.

Considering your are constantly trying to pretend that the fall away in crowds are supposedly linked then why aren't our crowd figures down on average to the same level as Poort's ?

Your average crowd this year is the equivallent of us having a 30,000 average. Yes there is an issue with a moderate drop in the crowd numbers in SA, but the Crows numbers do not correlate to anywhere near the same level as the drop off in Poort's crowd numbers which suggests that your constant attempts to try and deflect away Poort poor crowd figures are misguided.

Excellent finally someone that acknowledges that the Camry Crows crowds are down.

Next, why?

Then, what has the custodians of the game in SA done to help the Camry Crows?

 

[D_One]

Now that's at least 4 different ways that D has been demonstrated that our crowd numbers are not in trouble. Just because he wants to make the Crows look bad he chooses not to accept any reason, or any evidence that his assertions are crap.


The significant lack of other Power fans posting for the last 3 days should be enough fence that they are trying to distance themselves from his spurious claims and accusations. One of you fellow Port supporters should really shoot him a PM because fans like him are giving the lot of you a bad name. But I fear D is a loose cannon, prematurely discharging, spraying his ammunition everywhere.It gets messy, but luckily his ammunition is all dud.

Haha you've been caught lying and your dummy spits are just hilarious.