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Huh? I've never had an alias?
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GWS too and being a sucker for punishment are you even a member of the Port Adelaide Football Club Limited est 28/03/1995?
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Because a few years ago when you won the Flag in 2004 your teams supporters acted like your teams poo didnt stink Thinking that your team was never going to be crap.
Hate is a strong word here. I do dislike some of the people on your board. Now your team has been crap to a point where 2004 is a distant memory. The sad thing is as crap as your team are now. Some of your comrades have come out of the woodwork in the teams darkest hour to try and Help the club.
Some of those people do give a Damn about Port. That I have some respect for.
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Nice one Mattrox
Seems like D_ones posting has a D_downward trend. He has been absolutely smashed
Seems like D_ones posting has a D_downward trend. He has been absolutely smashed
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Not as sad as using a different account to make posts on the Port board
Though if I was posting the same type of rubbish that you post, I'd be hiding my identity on my teams board as well.
I know by now you all are sick of the moving average/trends/graphing lecture (demonstration)
Here is an example of how including finals figures can make a downward trend look worse than it is. In fact finals are a bonus to the club as mostly there is a sell out, plus the extra money on consessions, memorabilia etc.
Notice that in regular season games the trend line for the Crows is about 40K. The regular season + finals boosts the trend line up to 42K. Since this years crowd does not have finals and the last 2 years were dismal, the 5 year moving average drops sharply as 3 of the final 5 years are quite low. If you look at the longer term trend, the last two years can be viewed as a hiccup and this year sees a rebound in crowd numbers. In fact if the Crows were to get one or 2 home finals the 2nd graph could rebound even more quickly. So it is up to the person making the graph how long they choose the moving average they want to use.
Previously I have been hesitant to use crowd figures before 2004 as stadium redevelopments can impact crowd numbers, but infact using real rather than inflated numbers every year from 1991 can be used accurately.
Next I will take out Showdowns, but this will take some time as I have to re-calculate averages.
Here is an example of how including finals figures can make a downward trend look worse than it is. In fact finals are a bonus to the club as mostly there is a sell out, plus the extra money on consessions, memorabilia etc.
Notice that in regular season games the trend line for the Crows is about 40K. The regular season + finals boosts the trend line up to 42K. Since this years crowd does not have finals and the last 2 years were dismal, the 5 year moving average drops sharply as 3 of the final 5 years are quite low. If you look at the longer term trend, the last two years can be viewed as a hiccup and this year sees a rebound in crowd numbers. In fact if the Crows were to get one or 2 home finals the 2nd graph could rebound even more quickly. So it is up to the person making the graph how long they choose the moving average they want to use.
Previously I have been hesitant to use crowd figures before 2004 as stadium redevelopments can impact crowd numbers, but infact using real rather than inflated numbers every year from 1991 can be used accurately.
Next I will take out Showdowns, but this will take some time as I have to re-calculate averages.
Excellent can you plot the Camry Crows curve again with y axis set from 35K to 50K and then add a third order polynomial trendline.
Thanks.
Your still blaming others as for swans membership seeing as you don't love the club feel free to **** off.
Also As for funding the AFL stepped in once to save us which was in 93 now although the funding was rolled out over a number of years it was all part of that one planned stepping stone before that we had private backers that gave a shit about the club and helped us out not the VFL not the AFL the AFL only stepped in when they realised our importance to a national game, since then we have only received finding through the same methods as everyone else that is Club grants and disequalisation our salary cap concession comes from our own money it only allows us to pay our players more it's not funded.
And Club grants and disequalisation package of which your beloved port Adelaide now receive far more then the swans you placed 1-2 most years in total allocation between 06-10 and I doubt that has changed.
You can keep spreading myths like the crows are doing badly or that the AFL has stepped in several times to save Sydney but that doesn't make it true.
And once again we are at you taking aim at another club rather then deal with your in house bullshit. You carry on about the SANFL, but where are you and the rest of your members on this? Why don't you do something? And further more how does proving how much work my team still have left to do improve your clubs standing at all?
We know and acknowledge our short falls we will and have been dealing with it for quite sometime we will continue to find ways to improve in the future. What is your club doing?
How does trying to fling mud at another team whose licence is also owned by the SANFL yet are doing a vastly superior job then you do anything to improve your clubs standing?
You bring up how the crows have 70% of the supporter base and so should have more people at their games? But what are you doing to increase your 30%
We never here that all we here is oh we're not to bad all things considered that's why your crowds are dropping that's why keep loosing sponsors, if you stop focusing all your hate and anger on others and tried to look at a successful model and tried to emulate it you would be doing better.
But no you just can't admit that the crows are better then you let alone look at trying to mirror there success.
Nope not a 3rd order polynomial trend line.... a 9/10 year moving average. You are incorrect about my trend line.
Here is what a 3rd order polynomial trend line looks like, I have included the 9 year moving average for everyone to see the difference.
Here is a graph of the Home Games including finals I have previously posted with a 5 year moving average.
If Showdowns are removed as regular season home games (like D_One's Graph) look at the subtle but noticeable difference it makes to the "drop off" at the end. It accentuates it in the graph, the red line is clearly below the black line that includes the Showdowns during the last 3 years. In the last 3 years the Showdown crowds are quite a bit above average so excluding them drops the whole average for that year.
I know you non-numbers people are really bored, but I think someone better be careful before calling others a "lying sack of shit" because infact he has been very sneakily lying this whole time in an attempt to troll.
If Showdowns are removed as regular season home games (like D_One's Graph) look at the subtle but noticeable difference it makes to the "drop off" at the end. It accentuates it in the graph, the red line is clearly below the black line that includes the Showdowns during the last 3 years. In the last 3 years the Showdown crowds are quite a bit above average so excluding them drops the whole average for that year.
I know you non-numbers people are really bored, but I think someone better be careful before calling others a "lying sack of shit" because infact he has been very sneakily lying this whole time in an attempt to troll.
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Oh dear D_umb has been flipping owned!
Why?
Incorrect. % years is well and truly long enough to identify a trend.
Are we top of the table like the Swans?
I've been a Port member since the 80s.
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Who funded the Swans move to Sydney? Who underwrote the Powerplay bid?
Do they still give a shit? They paid about $6.5m to the AFL for the licence and the AFL bought it back about 5 years later for a $1m. And that my friend is the last time and private consortium will buy anything from the AFL. The Swans are still owned by the AFL. And good luck to them. It's a shitload better than being owned by the SANFL. The SANFL won't give us salary cap exceptions.
Are you sure?
http://footybusiness.wordpress.com/annual-reports-2/asd-grants-2006-2010/
Dumb comment. What have the Camry Crows done to increase their 70%?
If your talking about the 400,000 then you might want to look at where that came from this was from SMFC's it was a loan from the ground improvement fund of which we had been denied and locked out of years previous one of the many reason souths were failing in the first place, you also gloss over fact that this was forcing our hand finally it wasn't charity.
Several companies tried helping out souths by buying memberships only to be blocked, the VFL want us out and did everything it could to send us north finally they succeeded. The loan of course was paid back by eggleston.
Do they still give a shit? They paid about $6.5m to the AFL for the licence and the AFL bought it back about 5 years later for a $1m. And that my friend is the last time and private consortium will buy anything from the AFL. The Swans are still owned by the AFL. And good luck to them. It's a shitload better than being owned by the SANFL. The SANFL won't give us salary cap exceptions.
Many blokes still put cash into the club eggleston was a greedy prick he didn't love souths and in the end left in a huff it was the rest of the backers that sat down and decided this style of running the club wasn't going to be successful long term, they had already decided to return the club to a member based set up when the AFL stepped in. North's privatisation came after that so it was the last time ethier.
Fair enough I made a mistake I'll cop to it.
You would have to ask them? But that doesn't answer the question I asked you does it? Why the deflection everytime?[/quote]
D_One19 owned again!
Obviously the Swans are low recently due to the work being done at the SCG!
Its clear how you manipulate and stretch facts to try and suit your argument.
Fact is Port are crap and a disgrace to the AFL...
Obviously the Swans are low recently due to the work being done at the SCG!
Its clear how you manipulate and stretch facts to try and suit your argument.
Fact is Port are crap and a disgrace to the AFL...
Nice one Mattrox
Seems like D_ones posting has a D_downward trend. He has been absolutely smashed
Derives more joy out of getting a reaction from his false alias accusations than actually watching his rabble play. How sad.
Wow that really show the Camry Crows downward trend thanks.
Here it is again ... without hiding the detail.
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i'm guessing no proof is forthcoming..