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Player Watch #15: Dylan Stephens

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Dinkers said:
JHF & TT would be handy aye
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JHF = Wardlaw. We got some reasonable compensation.

TT = a massive loss. He would be perfect right now were he not a massive dickhead.
 
Passmore said:
Would you be advocating a change in personnel or roles within the existing personnel?
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If we take LDU as a given, then we're lacking a big bodied, more defensively reliable mid that we can bank on for the next five years. Kennedy, Dunkley, Hewett, Long type.

Sheezel is too defensively lax in there, Powell is ineffective, Wardlaw is pure chaos and goes missing. Parker's gone in a few years and who knows where Jy is at.

We're unfortunately playing all of Sheezel, Powell, Wardlaw as meat and potatoes staples in that midfield, whereas a decent side would probably have only one of them as the third or fourth in line, developing under little pressure. Currently, they're not learning and they're not getting better. They can all either gather possessions or offer something defensively. Not one of them does both.

I would also look at giving Colby more of a run in there but he's so small.

I dunno. It's grim. They're all total front runners on transition.
 
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king of the road said:
JHF = Wardlaw. We got some reasonable compensation.

TT = a massive loss. He would be perfect right now were he not a massive dickhead.
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JFH has Wardlaw covered and probably always will, and JHF is also a lying dickhead, a different dickhead to TT but a dickhead nonetheless.

Both losses hurt us, set us back a mile.
 
Themanbun said:
If we take LDU as a given, then we're lacking a big bodied, more defensively reliable mid that we can bank on for the next five years. Kennedy, Dunkley, Hewett, Long type.

Sheezel is too defensively lax in there, Powell is ineffective, Wardlaw is pure chaos and goes missing. Parker's gone in a few years and who knows where Jy is at.

We're unfortunately playing all of Sheezel, Powell, Wardlaw as meat and potatoes staples in that midfield, whereas a decent side would probably have only one of them as the third or fourth in line, developing under little pressure. Currently, they're not learning and they're not getting better. They can all either gather possessions or offer something defensively. Not one of them does both.

I would also look at giving Colby more of a run in there but he's so small.

I dunno. It's grim.
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"Pure Chaos "...mods, put that as the title to Georgie's thread.

Yes, Jy seems to be reaching a fork in the road moment on his career. And Tommy, well I'd like an experiment done...leave him out and see if anyone actually notices he's not there.

Given we're balls in on LDU, do we just have to build the ****ing thing around him? Try to find players to block and defend for him?
 
scottywiper said:
Tha fact that people have talked up Stephens as evidence we're on track is staggering.
Sure he has improved but gee whiz that was off a low base and really has had little impact on results.
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I don't recall anyone linking Stephens being in decent form to our team's strong trendline. Perhaps you'd like to point these out?

Passmore said:
"Pure Chaos "...mods, put that as the title to Georgie's thread.

Yes, Jy seems to be reaching a fork in the road moment on his career. And Tommy, well I'd like an experiment done...leave him out and see if anyone actually notices he's not there.

Given we're balls in on LDU, do we just have to build the ****ing thing around him? Try to find players to block and defend for him?
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Which will work right until the next time a player takes a cheap shot on him. It's not a coincidence that he was cleaned up twice in two weeks - with zero protection from umpires of the AFL.
 
Passmore said:
"Pure Chaos "...mods, put that as the title to Georgie's thread.

Yes, Jy seems to be reaching a fork in the road moment on his career. And Tommy, well I'd like an experiment done...leave him out and see if anyone actually notices he's not there.

Given we're balls in on LDU, do we just have to build the ****ing thing around him? Try to find players to block and defend for him?
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I don't even think that will work. It's not the stoppages (although when we lose one we lose it horrifically) so much. It's that they're all total front runners on transition, in addition to being small. No stoppage blocker mid will solve that unfortunately. You need probably 3/4 of your best mids, if not all of them, to get back as well as they get forward of the ball.
 
Themanbun said:
I don't even think that will work. It's not the stoppages (although when we lose one we lose it horrifically) so much. It's that they're all total front runners on transition. No stoppage blocker mid will solve that unfortunately. You need probably 3/4 of your best mids, if not all of them, to get back as well as they get forward of the ball.
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That's true.

Well this isn't going to turn until we sacrifice some bling in there for some dirty dogs who'll play disciplined, team first footy to go with an LDU, Sheezel and McKercher.

It's frustrating reading the Stephens criticism. It's a soft target. He's no A grader, but he's disciplined.

You're the midfield man, so I'll trust your opinion.
 

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Passmore said:
That's true.

Well this isn't going to turn until we sacrifice some bling in there for some dirty dogs who'll play disciplined, team first footy to go with an LDU, Sheezel and McKercher.

It's frustrating reading the Stephens criticism. It's a soft target. He's no A grader, but he's disciplined.

You're the midfield man, so I'll trust your opinion.
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He busts his ass to get back to the defence every single time. On that metric alone he's streets ahead of every other wing we have.
 
scottywiper said:
Tha fact that people have talked up Stephens as evidence we're on track is staggering.
Sure he has improved but gee whiz that was off a low base and really has had little impact on results.
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There was a sharp spike which had me feeling pretty good, but that’s dipped and now flatlined
 
Themanbun said:
If we take LDU as a given, then we're lacking a big bodied, more defensively reliable mid that we can bank on for the next five years. Kennedy, Dunkley, Hewett, Long type.

Sheezel is too defensively lax in there, Powell is ineffective, Wardlaw is pure chaos and goes missing. Parker's gone in a few years and who knows where Jy is at.

We're unfortunately playing all of Sheezel, Powell, Wardlaw as meat and potatoes staples in that midfield, whereas a decent side would probably have only one of them as the third or fourth in line, developing under little pressure. Currently, they're not learning and they're not getting better. They can all either gather possessions or offer something defensively. Not one of them does both.

I would also look at giving Colby more of a run in there but he's so small.

I dunno. It's grim. They're all total front runners on transition.
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Is FOS the solution?
 
Stephens isn't an AA winger, but he is the best we have right now. I would love to see someone take his spot but I don't think that's an issue with him, he's doing the role we are asking.
 
Themanbun said:
He busts his ass to get back to the defence every single time. On that metric alone he's streets ahead of every other wing we have.
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Stephens has taken defensive marks or made spoils literally on the edge of the goal square several times in the last few games.

People see what their biases require.
 

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jay317 said:
Not his best. But at least he goes when it's his turn now.
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I don't think he's played a good game against the Swans yet.
 

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