Player Watch #15 Kieren Jack - 250 games!

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Whoa there. I'm not implying anything & your assuming everyti\hing.

Though it is pretty irresponsible of any AFL club to force a player to have to play for their $1.5M & 800K salary.
But let's go with your assumption on Hanners. Why didn't the Saints do their due diligence if we wrecked his body an...an....an....an...and why did they not rest him & start "rebuild his body" when they recruited him back in October?:think::think::think:
Really? I mean it is an AFL clubs responsibility to do what is best for the player and club, and how is playing Hannebery into the ground benefitting him or us? Surely giving Hannebery as much time off as necessary to get his body right would have helped us and him. It would have meant being without him for 8 months or so, but it would have been worth it as 2018 Hannebery was close to useless, and yet Longmire would not give him the re-coup time he needed to possibly fix his body and regain the form/ability we know he possesses.

Longmire did the same thing with Buddy last year. Buddy got injured after round 1, and instead of giving Buddy everything he needed to get better we just played him into the ground, Buddy playing with the injury all year and as a result by the time finals came around he could not contribute anything.
 

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Really? I mean it is an AFL clubs responsibility to do what is best for the player and club, and how is playing Hannebery into the ground benefitting him or us? Surely giving Hannebery as much time off as necessary to get his body right would have helped us and him. It would have meant being without him for 8 months or so, but it would have been worth it as 2018 Hannebery was close to useless, and yet Longmire would not give him the re-coup time he needed to possibly fix his body and regain the form/ability we know he possesses.

Longmire did the same thing with Buddy last year. Buddy got injured after round 1, and instead of giving Buddy everything he needed to get better we just played him into the ground, Buddy playing with the injury all year and as a result by the time finals came around he could not contribute anything.

Look these guys know more than us

thats why we currently have over 1000 games of experience banged up not playing and have won 2 games this year
 
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Longmire did the same thing with Buddy last year. Buddy got injured after round 1, and instead of giving Buddy everything he needed to get better we just played him into the ground, Buddy playing with the injury all year and as a result by the time finals came around he could not contribute anything.
Your reinventing history. Buddy missed a block of 3 matches between Round 5 and 9 last year being rested to allow his heal injury picked up in Round 1 to recover so that he could play on and his training load was restricted in the process. As for why he couldn't contribute anything come the finals you forget to bring up that he picked up a groin injury late in our win over GWS in Round 22 which caused him to miss our Round 23 match against Hawthorn which was for a spot in the Top 4 and was a major reason he was restricted in the final.

So the club gave Buddy time off to get his injury right as well as reduced his training load only for him to injure himself late in the season with a new injury, hardly worked him into the ground as you described. Maybe I would take you more seriously if you didn't make stuff up or get stuff so wrong like you did above.

Also Longmire doesn't control the medical staff, they have final say if player has an injury and if not fit they don't play. If the medical staff passes a player fit then what else do you want the club to do? Call in a vet for a second opinion?
 

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Your reinventing history. Buddy missed a block of 3 matches between Round 5 and 9 last year being rested to allow his heal injury picked up in Round 1 to recover so that he could play on and his training load was restricted in the process. As for why he couldn't contribute anything come the finals you forget to bring up that he picked up a groin injury late in our win over GWS in Round 22 which caused him to miss our Round 23 match against Hawthorn which was for a spot in the Top 4 and was a major reason he was restricted in the final.

So the club gave Buddy time off to get his injury right as well as reduced his training load only for him to injure himself late in the season with a new injury, hardly worked him into the ground as you described. Maybe I would take you more seriously if you didn't make stuff up or get stuff so wrong like you did above.

Also Longmire doesn't control the medical staff, they have final say if player has an injury and if not fit they don't play. If the medical staff passes a player fit then what else do you want the club to do? Call in a vet for a second opinion?
Except Buddy really needed surgery, not rest, and clearly the rest was not enough as Longmire admitted after the bye that Buddy had not trained at all since round 1, indicating the "rest" he got in between rounds 5 and 9 were not enough.
 
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Except Buddy really needed surgery, not rest, and clearly the rest was not enough as Longmire admitted after the bye that Buddy had not trained at all since round 1, indicating the "rest" he got in between rounds 5 and 9 were not enough.
"Really needed surgery" for the Heel Injury? No he didn't. You're suggesting as an untrained doctor that he should've had a medical procedure without even knowing if any such surgery a) would've helped or b) been any quicker in healing than playing though the injury after the rest as well as reducing his training load. The fact you think the rest he did have didn't work because he didn't train for the rest of the year is mind-blowing in of itself. Who are you to say that without the rest he would've played out the season or you know, played into the ground? You can't as you don't have the facts and didn't from the start.

He did however have surgery for the groin injury picked up in Round 22 in the off season, not the heal.
 

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Journos are weak tossbags... why not bluntly ask Jose why KJ is in the team.
Maybe my comment was unfair. I am an unabashed KJ fan. Still like so many boxers, KJ has gone several bouts too many. In his case the length of the last contract extension has proved the same.

It is awful to watch him playing. He puts his hand up but his body cannot answer the call from his brain.

I agree that experienced voices are important on the field but their body must be able to deliver. KJ is long gone.

I wonder if KJ called his out this week. I really hope this is the case.
 
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