Delisted #16: Josh Begley - Not offered a contract for 2021

[Darealrath]

my two cents: play the kid. he’s a beast in the making. never takes a backwards step. just needs games into him. wait til he’s got 40 under the belt, he’ll be much improved.

playing him every second week or doing this silly rotate him with 2 other players so he’s getting 25% match time? nup.

Parish is the perfect example. the persistance of playing him every week is really starting to pay off. you don’t send a bloke back to the magoos when they’re 19 or 20 just because of a less than stellar game. pump games into them.

Totally agree. Signs are that the club has started to think like this too, with Baguley and Myers left in the VFL so Begley, Laverde and Clarke can have more opportunity.

 

[Coldacre]

Totally agree. Signs are that the club has started to think like this too, with Baguley and Myers left in the VFL so Begley, Laverde and Clarke can have more opportunity.

even though I don’t rate Laverde, it’s absolutely the correct approach. fast track them to 40 games... then you know what kind of player they really are. the good clubs (geelong, pies) do this. keep blooding the younger players. rewarding guys who are past it for being “loyal clubmen” is a nice idea on paper but it doesn’t build a ruthless footy side.

 

[fairbump_playon]

Back the kid in and actually get games into him.

You can’t back all the kids in each week. Begley is in indifferent form. Maybe it’s time for another kid to be backed in.

All players need is to know to feel loved is that when they are in form they will be picked. They don’t need the “lesson” that you can play as many average games as you like and still get a guernsey.

 

[fairbump_playon]

even though I don’t rate Laverde, it’s absolutely the correct approach. fast track them to 40 games... then you know what kind of player they really are. the good clubs (geelong, pies) do this. keep blooding the younger players. rewarding guys who are past it for being “loyal clubmen” is a nice idea on paper but it doesn’t build a ruthless footy side.

What about simply picking a team to win each week?

 

[Andronicus]

Why is Begley in the seniors? Really not sure what he is. Not nimble enough to play small. Not tall (strong) enough to play tall. And obviously doesn’t have the tank to play midfield.

I get what he could become but right now all he does is get cheap kicks late that gloss over how little impact he has on games during the first 100 minutes


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Fair enough, but who do you drop him for?

 

[Mikevk123]

Stick with Begley !

 

[rumply]

Got to remember he's coming off that knee & most likely we won't see anywhere near his best until we'll into next season. First priority is to get him through this season unscathed & if that means more time in the magoos, so be it.

 

[Bombers36]

I reckon hes been decent but will get dropped back to the twos this week as we need to bring in Zach Clarke and possibly a defender for Ambrose

 

[Don Won]

I reckon hes been decent but will get dropped back to the twos this week as we need to bring in Zach Clarke and possibly a defender for Ambrose

They brought in Francis for Ambrose, and BellChambers goes out

 

[Bjchan13]

Needs a run in the 2's. No shame in that. Young kid coming off a knee, priority is just to keep building fitness and form. Very bright future ahead.

 

[Fridge16]

6 goals 6 from 6 games after a knee reco and he hasn't even hit good form. We need to keep playing him, guys like Begley, Langford, Laverde, Redman, Clarke, Guelfi are the sort of guys that become solid B+ players at 40 games and make you win finals.

 

[Bunk Moreland]

Keep him in. With our young blokes I’m far more keen to play them too much than not enough.

 

[Bjchan13]

6 goals 6 from 6 games after a knee reco and he hasn't even hit good form. We need to keep playing him, guys like Begley, Langford, Laverde, Redman, Clarke, Guelfi are the sort of guys that become solid B+ players at 40 games and make you win finals.

Add Francis, Parish, McGrath and Ridley to your list of young players there too. Its not a knock on Begley to say he needs a rest. Most of these guys are in the team together now, finally, so there is plenty of youth spread out amongst our senior players. Clarke has been a pleasant surprise. If guys like Baguley and Myers were still in the side taking up 2 young players minutes then you'd be asking questions.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

I thought he played much better than the stat sheet looked on Thursday to the point where I was surprised to see he only had 6 touches. Definitely keep him in.

 

[blitzer]

Begley definitely stays in and as for needing a rest, well good thing he gets a 9 day break this week. His game wasn't even that bad, 2 very important goal assists (which were straight up handballs for easy kicks on goals) so sure it was a quiet game but he still contributed. This was a week after being one of our best against West Coast where he kicked 3 and was a strong contributor.

Playing small/medium forward you will just have weeks sometimes where the ball doesn't come your way. You can't jump on players after one bad week.
I personally reckon our forward line has looked a heck of a lot more functional since Begley and Laverde have come back into the team and actually offer something in the air whilst leading up at the ball carrier. Whereas before we had a whole forward line of blokes that wanted it out the back with only Fantasia leading up.

 

[TheWeapon]

At least he is consistently hitting the scoreboard which is better than a lot of our other forwards lately

 

[DapperJong]

Meh/10

 

[citizen-erased]

The next midfield experiment?
May require a couple of preseasons and some extended time playing VFL to build the tank for it.

 

[Nuggs Bunny]

There was a few times last night where he pushed right up the ground to get the ball basically in the defensive 50, and in doing so he looked miles better than anything he's put together in the forward line for us this year.

 

[fairbump_playon]

Tough year after returning from ACL. Not sure about what role Josh is destined for. The Stringerish dynamic 3rd forward seems the one but maybe I’m missing some of his potential? Are some seeing him as a midfielder?

Hopefully with another preseason and some confidence in his agility / body he will start to impact games more.

 

[BrunoV]

Tough year after returning from ACL. Not sure about what role Josh is destined for. The Stringerish dynamic 3rd forward seems the one but maybe I’m missing some of his potential? Are some seeing him as a midfielder?

Hopefully with another preseason and some confidence in his agility / body he will start to impact games more.

He should be playing Brown's role where he could add a physical edge.

He doesnt really have the explosive burst to play as a full forward at his size in the way Stringer does.

He's got really good natural endurance, especially for a player his build. He's a half forward who could be looked at to play as an inside mid.

 

[DapperJong]

He should be playing Brown's role where he could add a physical edge.

He doesnt really have the explosive burst to play as a full forward at his size in the way Stringer does.

He's got really good natural endurance, especially for a player his build. He's a half forward who could be looked at to play as an inside mid.

Enjoy the win mate?

 

[citizen-erased]

He should be playing Brown's role where he could add a physical edge.

He doesnt really have the explosive burst to play as a full forward at his size in the way Stringer does.

He's got really good natural endurance, especially for a player his build. He's a half forward who could be looked at to play as an inside mid.

i always thought we drafted him with a view he'd eventually slide into the middle to play inside midfield.
Playing him fwd is giving him game time, but at what point do we look to give him the apprenticeship Langford had at VFL level with a view to promoting to AFL long after he's ready

 

[the PILL]

Fridgeee not quite tracking like I'd hoped after his injury.

Seems like his brute strengh isnt quite scaling up at AFL level (something I'd say is his natural bread & butter) and backmen are easily giving him grief in the forward rolls we have tried him in.

Needs to find away around his short comings in this area via some good mentoring or adapt to a mid/bull role otherwise he's kind of like a few others in the team that give us glimpses of potential but nothing consistent...

I think he's got the tools but somethings not clicking tbh.

 

[Milanista28]

Big pre season for him coming up.