Strategy 16 Minute Quarters - Who will benefit?

[AsterixTheGaul]

Looking at the change with 16 minute quarters, who will be the beneficiaries?

NicNat. I am thinking the biggest beneficiary will be NicNat. He has around 60% TOG so that will allow him to go closer to 75% TOG.

Bailey Williams. More time for NicNat means Hickey or Vardy are not as required as outright ruck options.

Jack Petruccelle. His pace is great but he was not at the aerobic capacity needed to play that small forward defensive aspect.

Gaff is probably less likely to be that accumulator late in the quarter but he will probably be best placed to back up and play with shorter breaks between games.

Thoughts!

 

[Chris_6678]

Cripps, Ryan are some who have those great bursts for 4-5 miniutes.

 

[HoneyBadger35]

Nic Nat, and the forwardline options.

Less need to pick an out and out second ruck, much more able to fill time with a pinch hitter who offers more around the ground.

 

[DanWCE]

Got a feeling reduced quarters may lead to higher scoring. Absolutely nothing to back that up, just the vibe.

 

[kerr87]

Kennedy and Hurn - Will allow them to play another year at least.

Really believe Kennedy should play in 2021 was brilliant in the preseason. Wound back the clock.

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

Have shorter quarters been confirmed?

 

[Capriati]

Have shorter quarters been confirmed?

Yes,

16 minutes plus time on.

 

[WCE_phil]

Nic Nat, and the forwardline options.

Less need to pick an out and out second ruck, much more able to fill time with a pinch hitter who offers more around the ground.

Means we only need to play 1 genuine ruck in nicnat. Can play 3 tall forwards and 3 tall defenders. Darling can cover part ruck time in forward half and Gov can cover part rucking time in defence. Could actually give us the ability to play 7 talls instead of the ****ing 8/9/10 we seem so intent with at times.

 

[flamingEMBERS]

Not a fan, but I’ll cope. I’ll be livid if it stays for 2021

 

[Farang83150]

Not a fan, but I’ll cope. I’ll be livid if it stays for 2021

Cant see the broadcasters/fox agreeing with it when/if it becomes unnecessary, less advertising time.

 

[Ishmael_]

I've been wanting shorter quarters and a 17 game season for ages.

That's a big tick from me China

 

[MrWoollie]

Benefits - any team that maximises rotations and uses a gut running, clog the play, move the ball forward by pressure type play. I.e Richmond and any team that plays the style coached by Ross Lyon. These Rolyball teams used to run out of puff in the last 5 minutes of Q1 and Q2, the last ~10 minutes of Q3 and most of Q4. Now they'll just be able to play gut run, scrappy pressure football all game.
The interchange cap (and then reduction) was introduced to stop this style of 'gut run till you drop, rotate off for a quick recovery, gut run etc.' method of playing. Unless they further reduce the rotations this style will come back.

No big tick from me. This is just going to promote clog it up, pressure football.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Benefits - any team that maximises rotations and uses a gut running, clog the play, move the ball forward by pressure type play. I.e Richmond and any team that plays the style coached by Ross Lyon. These Rolyball teams used to run out of puff in the last 5 minutes of Q1 and Q2, the last ~10 minutes of Q3 and most of Q4. Now they'll just be able to play gut run, scrappy pressure football all game.
The interchange cap (and then reduction) was introduced to stop this style of 'gut run till you drop, rotate off for a quick recovery, gut run etc.' method of playing. Unless they further reduce the rotations this style will come back.

No big tick from me. This is just going to promote clog it up, pressure football.

Richmond notoriously do well late in the game and overrun other teams?

 

[Mattman93]

NicNat. I am thinking the biggest beneficiary will be NicNat. He has around 60% TOG so that will allow him to go closer to 75% TOG.

Maybe not. If it's reduced game time but more frequent games (say, five games in three weeks as has been speculated), then they might want to keep his total minutes over that three week period at the same number as it would have been were it three full-length games.

In which case his TOG% per game would actually drop.

 

[TY24]

Certainly had no effect on the scores tonight. 186 points in a game was a rare sight last season.

 

[Ishmael_]

Shorter games means you can't just **** around playing defence with the ball in hand for half the game.

You don't have the time.

 

[Coasters7]

Shorter games means you can't just fu** around playing defence with the ball in hand for half the game.

You don't have the time.

Yeah I was thinking about this. What effect is it going to have on us as a team? Either we continue to play slow build ups with our possession based game, which will keep most teams in games against us because we’re wasting time OR it’ll actually force us to move it quicker, which id back to help us as we wouldn’t be as hesitant and would back in our skills more.

 

[squashface]

I feel no crowds drops the pressure as well so players won't miss as often

 

[LittleGreekGod]

Richmond notoriously do well late in the game and overrun other teams?

WCE playing style is to control the ball for as much game time as possible, thus denying the opposition scoring opportunity.
As such we now only have to control the game for lesser periods.
This is most definitely an advantage.
Play one less tall, add another runner and control the ball fir 50 plus minutes will win most games.
In 2019 we won all games that we took over 90 marks. That might drop back to a more manageable 70.
Interesting times.

 

[LittleGreekGod]

I feel no crowds drops the pressure as well so players won't miss as often

Are you suggesting that there will be no Booing?

 

[LittleGreekGod]

Yeah I was thinking about this. What effect is it going to have on us as a team? Either we continue to play slow build ups with our possession based game, which will keep most teams in games against us because we’re wasting time OR it’ll actually force us to move it quicker, which id back to help us as we wouldn’t be as hesitant and would back in our skills more.

When we control the ball we deny the opposition the use of it and scoring opportunities

 

[Ambrose Burnside]

16 min plus time on probably isn't enough of a decrease to make much difference.

 

[Capriati]

16 min plus time on probably isn't enough of a decrease to make much difference.

Who knows at this stage.

Last night was a combined score of 186 points. The average last year was around 160 for quarters of 20 minute + time on.

Sample size is too small, however we may see fresher players meaning scoring actually goes up.

If that is the case 16 minute quarters might even be here to stay.

 

[Coasters7]

When we control the ball we deny the opposition the use of it and scoring opportunities

Yeah but we also have a habit of keeping teams alive because we don’t put the foot down when we need to (controlling the game). That’ll be amplified if there’s less time for us to build a lead.

The upside though is we’re now effectively playing 3 quarters so maybe the game is short enough for us to be on for the entire game?

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Yeah but we also have a habit of keeping teams alive because we don’t put the foot down when we need to (controlling the game). That’ll be amplified if there’s less time for us to build a lead.

The upside though is we’re now effectively playing 3 quarters so maybe the game is short enough for us to be on for the entire game?

Good call - I sensed there were very few games in 2019 that we played a full 4 quarters. The last Collingwood game at home was a good example.