Past #17: Lachie Young - NM trade #63 for LY in '20 trade period - delisted end '23 - 39 NM games / 1 NM goal - thanks Lachie

[Snake_Baker]

We were always going to be rummaging through the bins for at least a couple of list spots.

After snagging Perez, Mahony & Comben in the 30's last year, I am happy to trust the current footy depts speculative drafting.

 

[groo]

After snagging Perez, Mahony & Comben in the 30's last year, I am happy to trust the current footy depts speculative drafting.

All rookies from another club?

 

[Snake_Baker]

All rookies from another club?

I'd take it that AFL rookies have more exposed form than under 18 players.

A rookie just won the premiership club's best and fairest.

 

[king rising]

Hopefully not Alex Morgan

Alex Morgan

Age

28

Ht

182cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.0

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.0

3star

MG

131.0

2star

No current season stats available

D

12.0

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

7.0

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.0

3star

MG

131.0

3star

2.0

 

[oldmanblakes12]

This

The pieces are coming together nicely. Love what Brady’s doing so far.
If Young can hold down a half back spot it releases McDonald into the midfield where he can become tagger or attacking mid.
We all saw what he was able to do this year in a tagging role. Have always felt that McDonald is being wasted in the backline, time to put him in the guts.


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[kool kangas]

So basically they got wind of the pending offer from us and offered him a spot on the senior list to force us to trade. AFL response will be interesting

l hope he had his phone on record during their conversation...

 

[Thewlis Dish]

I'd take it that AFL rookies have more exposed form than under 18 players.

A rookie just won the premiership club's best and fairest.

A twice-discarded rookie was also Geelong's best player in the Grand Final (and made the AA squad).

 

[giantroo]

So according to Twomey, Lachie Young

17

Lachie Young

Age

25

Ht

189cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

220.3

3star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.5

2star

HB

3.5

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.0

3star

MG

210.0

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

219.6

4star

will definitely be a roo. It's whether we have to trade for him.

He mentioned that the Dogs initially offered a 3rd year rookie list spot but then changed to a senior list spot. The grey area is whether the first offer is taken into account or the final offer.

First 5 minutes

 

[King Corey]

After snagging Perez, Mahony & Comben in the 30's last year, I am happy to trust the current footy depts speculative drafting.

Still want to extract maximum value out of trades.

Scoring Perez et al only to settle for peanuts for Brown is like getting a good price for your car so thinking **** it I'll hock off my house for unders.

 

[The chorus]

Savvy recruiting or hail mary desperate attempt?

Remember the names Will Sierakowski and Alex Morgan

Alex Morgan

Age

28

Ht

182cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.0

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

7.0

4star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.0

3star

MG

131.0

2star

No current season stats available

D

12.0

3star

K

5.0

2star

HB

7.0

5star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.0

3star

MG

131.0

3star

. Also savvy recruits from rookie lists which turned out to be, well, just like the rest of our recruiting recently.

Hope this one pans out differently.

I remember also Michael Firrito

Michael Firrito

Age

40

Ht

189cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

6.9

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.3

4star

MG

291.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.4

4star

who I think was a rookie at Hawthorn before we recruited him

 

[Supreme_Chancellor]

Lachie Young

17

Lachie Young

Age

25

Ht

189cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

220.3

3star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.5

2star

HB

3.5

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.0

3star

MG

210.0

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

219.6

4star

: ‘The Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels’

 

[WD Roo]

I remember also Michael Firrito

Michael Firrito

Age

40

Ht

189cm

Wt

93kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

14.8

4star

K

7.8

3star

HB

6.9

4star

M

3.9

4star

T

2.3

4star

MG

291.6

4star

No current season stats available

D

9.0

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

3.6

3star

M

1.6

2star

T

2.4

4star

who I think was a rookie at Hawthorn before we recruited him

Picked up via Box Hill

 

[blackshadow]

Lachie Young

17

Lachie Young

Age

25

Ht

189cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

220.3

3star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.5

2star

HB

3.5

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.0

3star

MG

210.0

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

219.6

4star

: ‘The Stock and 2 Smoking Barrels’

Lachie Young = The up your daughters, lock up your wives

 

[Snake_Baker]

Still want to extract maximum value out of trades.

Scoring Perez et al only to settle for peanuts for Brown is like getting a good price for your car so thinking **** it I'll hock off my house for unders.

Well, that goes without saying mate, but this thread isn't really about that.

 

[Snake_Baker]

So according to Twomey, Lachie Young

17

Lachie Young

Age

25

Ht

189cm

Wt

81kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.5

3star

K

6.4

3star

HB

4.1

3star

M

3.3

3star

T

1.8

4star

MG

220.3

3star

D

9.0

2star

K

5.5

2star

HB

3.5

2star

M

1.0

1star

T

2.0

3star

MG

210.0

3star

D

11.2

3star

K

6.2

3star

HB

5.0

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

1.8

4star

MG

219.6

4star

will definitely be a roo. It's whether they have to trade for him.

He mentioned that the Dogs initially offered a 3rd year rookie list spot but then changed to a senior list spot. The grey area is whether the first offer is taken into account or the final offer.

First 5 minutes

I knew that reading those High Court cases would come in handy one day.

Okay, where's the rule book? Is "offer" singular or plural?

 

[King Corey]

Well, that goes without saying mate, but this thread isn't really about that.

The thread isn't but the flow of posts was related to getting #23 for Brown and how we did ok (judging at this stage) with picks in that range last year.

 

[Snake_Baker]

The thread isn't but the flow of posts was related to getting #23 for Brown and how we did ok (judging at this stage) with picks in that range last year.

I see. No comment.

 

[The Dingrel]

I can't really remember but Morgs seemed a bit hard done by to me now you mention him.

In his first (of two) senior games he got 18 disposals, nine marks, two tackles and five 1%ers, mostly spoils. His second game wasn't that great but that was the only shot he got.

Hope this kid gets a better run.

Pretty sure he got injured in his second game

 

[giantroo]

FA rules from the CBA

 

[Gorman2Geister]

So technically even if the Dogs changed their offer to being elevated to the main list clause (h) should apply and he is a free agent as he was offered a third year Rookie Player contract...

 

[Snake_Baker]

"an offer" is singular.

"an offer.......but does not accept that offer", further reinforces singularity, which has been declined.

My reading of this is that the dogs have very weak grounds to apply for a trade pick, if this can be ratified.

 

[King Corey]

So technically even if the Dogs changed their offer to being elevated to the main list clause (h) should apply and he is a free agent as he was offered a third year Rookie Player contract...

Yeh you'd think if there's evidence of the rookie offer he and his agent can argue that they took that as the trigger for his free agency status.

The fact the dogs came back with a senior spot to patch up their loophole ****up should be irrelevant.

As someone said though, this smacks of a pyrrhic victory. We'll whack off about getting one over them as he goes on to play 2 games and gets delisted.

 

[King Corey]

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"an offer" is singular.

"an offer.......but does not accept that offer", further reinforces singularity.

My reading of this is that the dogs have very weak grounds to apply for a trade pick, if this can be ratified.

Of course as others have mentioned, as an act of good will if this opens talks for their pick 12 then I think it's only proper of our club to do the noble thing.

 

[Snake_Baker]

Of course as others have mentioned, as an act of good will if this opens talks for their pick 12 then I think it's only proper of our club to do the noble thing.

Of course, and I am applying HCA interpretation of statute law, but if legally pushed to the nth degree then this is how I reckon the matter would be ruled.

 

[El Triggso]

Hm

FA rules from the CBA

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As a bush lawyer only, I read it clearly that FA is triggered immediately upon the rejection of any offer of a 3rd year rookie contract. There are no sub-clauses about extraneous circumstances, e.g. subsequent offers, clouding this point.

Of course you may still choose to play nice with the Dogs in the context of any other deals that are being cooked up behind the scenes, but it seems black and white to me.