17th side

[millane1990]

strategically, the afl should be looking long term towards a 20 team competition (possibly 22 team)

organising such a comp poses some interesting logistical issues - for example

1. do you go down the USA path and set up conferences - either east/west or north south

2. do you schedule a comp where each team plays everyone else once - this has obvious appeal in removing a lot of scheduling bias evident in the current comp but has the obvious downside where 10 teams will have 1 less home game every 2 years

my personal preference is for suggestion 2 with

- 19 game home and away season with 2 split rounds of 5 games per weekend built into the season proper ensuring season runs over 21 weeks

- each game in each round becomes an event game such as the coll v carl mccallum trophy

- retain top 8 and return some exclusivity to the finals series

- build compensations into season memberships where a team has a reduced number of memberships

new teams in perth, adelaide, sth queensland (my suggestion for a name is gold coast sharks altho i would be just as happy with southport sharks), west sydney (west sydney rangers - link it with the blue mountains)

if 22 teams are a possibility - perhaps look at locating a team in wellington nz - ready made stadium, large pop base - the town is somewhat culturally different to the rest of nz which makes it a more viable mkt to penetrate (one from left field i guess but 20 years u just never know)

 

[estibador]

You lot can keep your third WA team. We're quite happy with two thank you very much. It's worked out perfectly - we've got the good wholesome team and the evil soulless team. Something for everyone.

Are you trying to turn us into another overcrowded market with clubs struggling for members and dollars like Victoria?

 

[MaxHunt]

Should be two teams. GC and West Syd. Perth - Not now, Freo is strong but only recently, they need another 5 years to consolidate that. Should be a 26 rnd season with one split round. Each team plays the other home and way over 2 year period. Only fair way. Scrape preseason NAB cup or make NAB the sponsor for the first 3 rounds of the real season. Increase player list to 50 and salary cap to cope for it. Standard will drop a bit but not that much. May also let the Champion players play for another season or two with more players on the list.

 

[eagles06]

!7 sides is probably too many. I think there are way too many Melbourne temas. 9 teams in the 1 city is too many. We need to get rid of a couple of those teams. It would be hard for the clubs to do but we need to.
One goes to the Gold Coast
One goes to Sydney
Really it is unrealistic to have 9 Melbourne teams and expect them to survive.
After all, this is the Australian Football League.

 

[hayesy_27]

Does the AFL need to expand and have a team in the GOld Coast? YEs. Is a 17th team the way to go about it? NO
With the draw every year unfair to a few teams making a 17th team makes the draw even more unfair to teams. Some teams will get 2 byes which may help or hinder them. Imagine your team going into the last round and having the bye and you miss the finals because the AFL gave them 2 byes and another team only one.
Will it be 4 points win, 3 points bye 2 points draw?
8 teams will make the finals and 9 will miss out now.
The biggest problem with introducing a 17th team is how un even it will make the game. ANd frustrating for fans who may only get to watch there team play 20 times a year instead of 22. DO they get cheaper membership because of this?
The league is set up well at the moment 16 teams 8 make the finals 8 do not. There is no bye just a split round.
As a fan of the game i think a 17th team will only make the game worse and harder to watch.

 

[Souup]

No

Will screw up the draw. I'm not a big fan of the bye

 

[Howard Littlejohn]

Perth team??

West Coast Eages are based in Perth

WA needs a 3rd team imediately. The problem I see is that 19 seems to be the limit.
GC (doubtful value but definite starter), 2nd Sydney team (would start behind GC but has a ctahcment of 2.5m meaning it needs just 20% of the uptake of a GC team; and only about 30% when the GC's 2030 population is considered) and another WA side (which would be profitable inside a decade).
Can't see where a 20th would fit. Its 40-50 years too soon for Darwin, Tas has no money and a proportion of national economy and population is slipping further behind. Which would give 19 and a bye in perprtuity. 20, 10 Vic, 10 non-Vic would be a good balance. (Maybe a 3rd Sydney team? Or even a 4th Perth team if WA keeps up the growth rate.)

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

North Melbourne wont be able to stand on their own two feet for much longer so by the time this new team were to come in. So we would only be facing 2 or 3 years with a 17 team comp.

 

[Willow_2000]

Everyones complaining about the bye week. Im more pissed off that if they create a 17th team the clubs that WE support will have to give players to make this team, just like when Port came into the comp. Even worse, they take good players.

 

[Esky Lid]

Screw it !! Lets have 24. 23 Games each a Season ( Invert the season the Season The Following year) 288 Qualifying Games !



# 17 Based on the Gold Coast - Gold Coast GoofyFooters ( Gold & blue - Opposite to West Coast.

# 18 Based in WA. ( Karratha ) - North West Narly Dudes ( Ocre & Black)

# 19 Based in Western Suburbs of Sydney - West Sydney River Pigs (Green & Gold, Dunno why, we just don't for some reason have this Colour Combination)

# 20 Based in Tassie. - Tassie FatRat Clackers ( Green & Gold - Why not, I am on a Roll.)

# 21 Based in Darwin - NT Magpies ( Black'n'White Stripes) Becasue the people ever to win an Argument in history against Collingwood has been the Darwin Indigenous Community !!

#22 Based in Auckland - Bro Town Underarmers ( Silver & Black) Just get over it and move on !

#23 Based in Canberra - Capital Tossers ( Pink & Blue) Who Knows why, but for once lets tell Canberra what they can & Can't do !!

#24 Based in Singapore - Gateway Grumblebums - This is trulythe way to send AFL International - The Gateway to the World. And They can wear Skins and the opposion are Shirts !!

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

Everyones complaining about the bye week. Im more pissed off that if they create a 17th team the clubs that WE support will have to give players to make this team, just like when Port came into the comp. Even worse, they take good players.

Yeah I'm sure teams like West Coast were devastated to lose such superstars as Ian Downsborough and Shane Bond. Lets not forget how Geelong crumbled after they lost Shane Bruer

 

[MagpieGirl_13]

Screw it !! Lets have 24. 23 Games each a Season ( Invert the season the Season The Following year) 288 Qualifying Games !



# 17 Based on the Gold Coast - Gold Coast GoofyFooters ( Gold & blue - Opposite to West Coast.

# 18 Based in WA. ( Karratha ) - North West Narly Dudes ( Ocre & Black)

# 19 Based in Western Suburbs of Sydney - West Sydney River Pigs (Green & Gold, Dunno why, we just don't for some reason have this Colour Combination)

# 20 Based in Tassie. - Tassie FatRat Clackers ( Green & Gold - Why not, I am on a Roll.)

# 21 Based in Darwin - NT Magpies ( Black'n'White Stripes) Becasue the people ever to win an Argument in history against Collingwood has been the Darwin Indigenous Community !!

#22 Based in Auckland - Bro Town Underarmers ( Silver & Black) Just get over it and move on !

#23 Based in Canberra - Capital Tossers ( Pink & Blue) Who Knows why, but for once lets tell Canberra what they can & Can't do !!

#24 Based in Singapore - Gateway Grumblebums - This is trulythe way to send AFL International - The Gateway to the World. And They can wear Skins and the opposion are Shirts !!

Love your sarcasm!!!! brilliant

 

[Metallica_Man]

True, and which sides would get a double bye??

There is a way you can work the draw so that each team gets 2 byes, you can give 3 teams a by in some rounds

 

[hayesy_27]

3 teams have a by some weeks? sounds like an ok idea as there would still be 7 games but makes the draw very confusing and some fans wont be happy that there team will now only play 20 games. And it once again come down to who is the lucky team that gets a bye in round 22 or unlucky team. 17 teams will stuff up the fixture

 

[FOOOOTY]

# 21 Based in Darwin - NT Magpies ( Black'n'White Stripes) Becasue the people ever to win an Argument in history against Collingwood has been the Darwin Indigenous Community !!

Hahahahahaha, Collingwood shat themselves when that guy put a curse on them. They feared the bone!

 

[Willow_2000]

Even better idea!!! Demitriou can go get ****ed and we can leave the comp how it is. I dont see the point of expanded the comp as expanding wont lead to the QLD and NSW public having a sudden change or heart and switching to AFL from NRL.

 

[WhyAlwaysMe]

Even better idea!!! Demitriou can go get ****ed and we can leave the comp how it is. I dont see the point of expanded the comp as expanding wont lead to the QLD and NSW public having a sudden change or heart and switching to AFL from NRL.

The GC is the fastest growing place in Australia. At the moment new people/families/whoever have one choice and that is Rugby. Put an AFL team there before the Titans get a stranglehold on the market. Thats the logic.

 

[Willow_2000]

The GC is the fastest growing place in Australia. At the moment new people/families/whoever have one choice and that is Rugby. Put an AFL team there before the Titans get a stranglehold on the market. Thats the logic.

So you reckon it could work? I know if i was living up there and followed the NRL i wouldnt be switching to AFL. On the other hand i guess they could support both?

 

[Hap Hapablap]

strategically, the afl should be looking long term towards a 20 team competition (possibly 22 team)

organising such a comp poses some interesting logistical issues - for example

1. do you go down the USA path and set up conferences - either east/west or north south

2. do you schedule a comp where each team plays everyone else once - this has obvious appeal in removing a lot of scheduling bias evident in the current comp but has the obvious downside where 10 teams will have 1 less home game every 2 years

my personal preference is for suggestion 2 with

- 19 game home and away season with 2 split rounds of 5 games per weekend built into the season proper ensuring season runs over 21 weeks

- each game in each round becomes an event game such as the coll v carl mccallum trophy

- retain top 8 and return some exclusivity to the finals series

- build compensations into season memberships where a team has a reduced number of memberships

new teams in perth, adelaide, sth queensland (my suggestion for a name is gold coast sharks altho i would be just as happy with southport sharks), west sydney (west sydney rangers - link it with the blue mountains)

if 22 teams are a possibility - perhaps look at locating a team in wellington nz - ready made stadium, large pop base - the town is somewhat culturally different to the rest of nz which makes it a more viable mkt to penetrate (one from left field i guess but 20 years u just never know)

can we please forget about NZ. not worth even considering it. let them even get an amateur AFL league in their OWN country first before we even consider them in any of our minor leagues.

 

[FOOOOTY]

Hehehe Richmond supporter rang SEN, and promised if Richmond vote for the 17th team to get the signatures and spill the board.

Gotta love Richmond

 

[MacMum]

I'm a strong supporter for Southport to represent the GC......but dont agree with a west Sydney team tho.....where are their supporters??......would rather see a Tasmanian or NT team brought in...

 

[bigunit]

Geez! Everyone is missing the big picture here.... What the hell is going to happen to Dreamteam!

 

[LondonCalling]

I'm cynical towards the prospect of the Gold Coast being a long-term viable and profitable market.

I support the idea of a 17th and possibly an 18th team entering the competition, but not the idea of re-inventing the wheel for the sake of entering a market that's already been proven shaky at best.

Send a team to Tassie first, which would at the very least give them room for error when bringing in an 18th Gold Coast side.

 

[CF]

The bye is also another thing for the clubs to constantly whinge about too.

"Bye too early in the season"

Bye too late in the season"

"We want the bye in the last round"

"We don't want the bye in the last round"

and so forth.

get rid of the breaks in the season and the bye becomes the clubs week break. I think there will be 18 clubs eventually, then it will be a matter of which Melbourne club folds first. It's a shame it will end that way but if Melbourne based clubs are too stubborn to embrace the future then that is their problem.

 

[Willow_2000]

get rid of the breaks in the season and the bye becomes the clubs week break. I think there will be 18 clubs eventually, then it will be a matter of which Melbourne club folds first. It's a shame it will end that way but if Melbourne based clubs are too stubborn to embrace the future then that is their problem.

That wont work ethier as imagine if your club was to get the break in the first 3 rounds. They will need to play the next 19 or so games straight. At least when they have the mid season break it is not an advantage or disadvantage to anyone.