Player Watch #18: Alex Rance

[DoItForCaptBlood]

He’s such an important player to us, no doubt about it. It may be a selfish comment to make but as a fan I would be okay with the potential consequences Rance would face if he returned if that meant we won another Grand Final.

I reckon that is what he is thinking too. If we are looking very likely... ie we win all of the next 4 comfortably, 20+ points, (inc Pies and WC obviously), he'll be thinking .. fk next year....
lets roll. A couple of VFL games as the warm up.

Qualifying final backline:
Broad Rance Short
Houli Astbury Grimes

 

[SunshineBoy]

if he doesnt play pre finals to get some miles into him i wouldnt play him the finals as if he is rusty could mess up our backline for

but he is an andonis so he could make us better automaticaly so it will be a tough call

It’s Adonis you campaigner

 

[SunshineBoy]

Compare this year same round with no Rance, to our 2017 Premiership year

2019. 5th, 11 wins, 107.5%, 1458 for, 1356 against.
2017. 4th, 11 wins, 108.6%, 1458 for, 1343 against.

Remarkable similarity.

I prefer 24-9 free kick count 8 times the last three weeks

 

[SunshineBoy]

I reckon that is what he is thinking too. If we are looking very likely... ie we win all of the next 4 comfortably, 20+ points, (inc Pies and WC obviously), he'll be thinking .. fk next year....
lets roll. A couple of VFL games as the warm up.

Qualifying final backline:
Broad Rance Short
Houli Astbury Grimes

Can’t find a spot for Stack?

 

[biaseddustyfan]

reckon we re-signed arsebury because rance has signaled his intentions to retire after we play him through the finals this year and he gets another flag and a norm smiff

 

[Themanbun]

Themanbun are you sprinting like this?

Yes, started sprint throughs last month. Am also doing low intensity agility work like grapevines, wide berth circling and jumping.

 

[Roksman]

 

[DoItForCaptBlood]

Can’t find a spot for Stack?

Yep. I'm with ya then. Piss Shorty off, and Stackman slots straight in!!

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

It’s Adonis you campaigner

hahahahhahahahahaaa....

 

[Black Saab]

Themanbun are you sprinting like this?

Let's be fair here, lots more Collingwood supporters would be able to make it to the game this Friday instead of watching it from their cells in the lock up if they could run this quick.

 

[jc12]

I'm not gonna doxx myself just to prove a couple of projecting smartasses on the internet wrong.

What you are failing to understand is that muscle regrowth and recovery is one aspect of rehabilitation to reconstructive surgery which exists independently of tendon pathology for the reconstructed ligament.

Unless you believe Alex has found a way to accelerate the rate at which a tendon screwed into your leg heals and gains strength (which I'm sure medical professionals all over the world would love to know about), then playing him before the literature suggests is safest to do so is a big risk that will have to be weighed against the possible benefits.

I'm not sure how that has become offensive to people considering it is literally what medical commentators and likely even your own medical staff are saying.

Anyway, I hope he gets back without further injury. Seeing champions of the game struck out is awful.

Sorry mate , but we cannot compare ourselves to elite athletes , they are in a different ball park altogether and get help 24/7 with their stuff which makes a ton of difference. You might of done your ACL too, but you are not an elite athlete . And it's quite obvious Rance has some pretty good genetics physically.
And with ACLs I'm pretty sure everyone knows it's always risk even if you come back in a year. Everyone responds differently to it anyway. So it just sounds really weird how you are making it sound as if just because you have the same injury you know everything about it

 

[Tzatziki_Man]

I had done my ACL. It took a solid 18-24 months for me to feel like myself again.

Wonder where he’ll be mentally. It ain’t a muscle that’s torn, it’s a ligament that’s replaced. You have to play the waiting game.

Honestly, if we make the grand final, play him, YOLO. But id play him as a lockdown defender on a 2nd/3rd forward.

I wouldn’t play him 4-5 games, I wouldn’t take the risk.

 

[Bazzar]

Sorry mate , but we cannot compare ourselves to elite athletes , they are in a different ball park altogether and get help 24/7 with their stuff which makes a ton of difference. You might of done your ACL too, but you are not an elite athlete . And it's quite obvious Rance has some pretty good genetics physically.
And with ACLs I'm pretty sure everyone knows it's always risk even if you come back in a year. Everyone responds differently to it anyway. So it just sounds really weird how you are making it sound as if just because you have the same injury you know everything about it

I was fascinated by the list of experts who were involved in Tyson Goldsacks recovery. Its a 100% given Rance would have similar.

Julian Feller, surgeon. Ben Shipperd, head physio/rehab. Ruben Branson, club doctor. David Francis, club physio. Lachlan Fooks, club physio. Kev White, head of fitness. Mick Duggan, condition and recovery coach. Adam Paulo, head of strength and conditioning. Paula Blaird-Colt, ex ballet dancer and specialist in rehab and muscle activation.

As you said, non elite athletes wouldn't have anyway near this level of professional expertise. Goldsack was walking up and down stairs 1 week after surgery and running in the 5th week. Rance was running not long after surgery on the AlterG, and thats something the average athlete doesnt have access to.

 

[Tenacious T]

Can’t find a spot for Stack?

Can't find a spot for Flossy????

 

[biaseddustyfan]

rance's ACL to explode again jumping off the stage after accepting his norm smiff

 

[Daveeee_12]

I was fascinated by the list of experts who were involved in Tyson Goldsacks recovery. Its a 100% given Rance would have similar.

Julian Feller, surgeon. Ben Shipperd, head physio/rehab. Ruben Branson, club doctor. David Francis, club physio. Lachlan Fooks, club physio. Kev White, head of fitness. Mick Duggan, condition and recovery coach. Adam Paulo, head of strength and conditioning. Paula Blaird-Colt, ex ballet dancer and specialist in rehab and muscle activation.

As you said, non elite athletes wouldn't have anyway near this level of professional expertise. Goldsack was walking up and down stairs 1 week after surgery and running in the 5th week. Rance was running not long after surgery on the AlterG, and thats something the average athlete doesnt have access to.

Goldsack partially tore his ACL, it wasn't a complete rupture. I think this gets completely missed in the whole miraculously recovery story.

 

[jc12]

I was fascinated by the list of experts who were involved in Tyson Goldsacks recovery. Its a 100% given Rance would have similar.

Julian Feller, surgeon. Ben Shipperd, head physio/rehab. Ruben Branson, club doctor. David Francis, club physio. Lachlan Fooks, club physio. Kev White, head of fitness. Mick Duggan, condition and recovery coach. Adam Paulo, head of strength and conditioning. Paula Blaird-Colt, ex ballet dancer and specialist in rehab and muscle activation.

As you said, non elite athletes wouldn't have anyway near this level of professional expertise. Goldsack was walking up and down stairs 1 week after surgery and running in the 5th week. Rance was running not long after surgery on the AlterG, and thats something the average athlete doesnt have access to.

Yeah actually boggles the mind how anyone who isn't an elite athlete can compare. Just because you go physio two times a week and do their exercises via email everyday and google how to recover faster doesn't mean you're on the same level as them

 

[Michaels]

Goldsack partially tore his ACL, it wasn't a complete rupture. I think this gets completely missed in the whole miraculously recovery story.

Are you sure about that?

Not 1 article I have read mentioned a partial tear. They all said an ACL rupture and a full reconstruction.

Morris from the dogs had a partial tear, but goldsack had the full reco.

 

[Bazzar]

Goldsack partially tore his ACL, it wasn't a complete rupture. I think this gets completely missed in the whole miraculously recovery story.

All the early reports said it was a partial tear, but surgeon Julian Feller said after Rance's surgery they had the same graft.

 

[DoItForCaptBlood]

Can't find a spot for Flossy????

WTF!!! How did I miss him??
Perfect. Short goes AND we an keep Stacky foreard/mid.

Cmon Trossman... heal man heal!!!

 

[Daveeee_12]

Are you sure about that?

Not 1 article I have read mentioned a partial tear. They all said an ACL rupture and a full reconstruction.

Morris from the dogs had a partial tear, but goldsack had the full reco.

Yep, double checked and there's an article from March last year saying partial ACL tear.

All the early reports said it was a partial tear, but surgeon Julian Feller said after Rance's surgery they had the same graft.

Not sure what exactly what he said, but I'd just be guessing he's referring to where they got the graft from (eg. They both got a hammy graft to fix the ACL)

 

[Michaels]

Yep, double checked and there's an article from March last year saying partial ACL tear.


Not sure what exactly what he said, but I'd just be guessing he's referring to where they got the graft from (eg. They both got a hammy graft to fix the ACL)

Where did you find the article out of interest?

10 links I used on Google gave me nothing!

 

[Bazzar]

Yep, double checked and there's an article from March last year saying partial ACL tear.


Not sure what exactly what he said, but I'd just be guessing he's referring to where they got the graft from (eg. They both got a hammy graft to fix the ACL)

They both had quad grafts

 

[Daveeee_12]

Where did you find the article out of interest?

10 links I used on Google gave me nothing!

Veteran Pie's knee reco unlikely to mark the end

Nathan Buckley hopes Tyson Goldsack will finish on his own terms

m.afl.com.au

 

[Daveeee_12]

They both had quad grafts

Yea don't know what they had, was just providing an example.