1991 gf

[stmookeyj]

Can someone tell me why the 91, 92 and 94 GF matches NEVER EVER get replayed during the Grand Final marathons or even ever on TV?

I can answer 1994, it WAS boring save for a Bill Brownless hanger over Ashley McIntosh. In fact all I remember of that day was actually turning on Nintendo's Aussie Rules Footy at my Grandmothers in Urangan (Hervey Bay) when it got boring, and Footscray won the reserves with Steve MacPherson and Simon Atkins prominent.

 

[Public Enemy No1]

Classic example of an inferior Vic side winning because of the very biased league it was then..
WC travelling 3 weeks in a row to Melb even though they finished on top. Playing against Hawthorn who were playing on their home ground. Some classic 'Vic umpiring'
If Hawthorn had to travel to Subi 3 weeks in a row and play WC in a GF, WC would of won by about 50 goals.

 

[Hawthorn1971]

Classic example of an inferior Vic side winning because of the very biased league it was then..
WC travelling 3 weeks in a row to Melb even though they finished on top. Playing against Hawthorn who were playing on their home ground. Some classic 'Vic umpiring'
If Hawthorn had to travel to Subi 3 weeks in a row and play WC in a GF, WC would of won by about 50 goals.

IF IF IF...

Looks like you were up a l i t t l e bit too late when you posted that, a bit snippy about something still biting at you from 19 years ago.

Hope the good lay down served you well.

 

[tazhawk]

Classic example of an inferior Vic side winning because of the very biased league it was then..
WC travelling 3 weeks in a row to Melb even though they finished on top. Playing against Hawthorn who were playing on their home ground. Some classic 'Vic umpiring'
If Hawthorn had to travel to Subi 3 weeks in a row and play WC in a GF, WC would of won by about 50 goals.

You failed to mention the fact the Hawks travelled to Subi and beat the Eagles in a Final.

 

[Lunchlady Doris]

Classic example of an inferior Vic side winning because of the very biased league it was then..
WC travelling 3 weeks in a row to Melb even though they finished on top. Playing against Hawthorn who were playing on their home ground. Some classic 'Vic umpiring'
If Hawthorn had to travel to Subi 3 weeks in a row and play WC in a GF, WC would of won by about 50 goals.

Didn't they lose a final at home to Hawthorn?

 

[Fastback]

I think a lot of people were expecting the "too old and too slow" Hawks to finally fade away after 1990.

Instead, we turned back the clock and played our 80's style football one last time.

Mighty effort.

 

[Pessimistic]

Also Tucky becoming an all time great and collecting his 7th flag.

Is the closest other 5 flags ?

Imagine the hype if an ablett or a judd did that today

Next time you watch this - watch the awards ceremony. I think the AFL officials were hoping for a WC win because their jaws were almost touching the deck.

So depressed they stuffed up the order of proceedings. Tucky, (did I mention it was his 7th flag - not to mention a few runners up) just took control and told them what to do next and basically ran the ceremony.

Funny stuff, and they didnt have bradbury back then

 

[Leather Poisoning]

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9:15 mark - see Brereton giving McIntosh some advice. Great leadership.

Poor old Woosh looked a little despondent at times in that video! And it's easy to forget just how good JD was

It really was a different era of footy. Every contest was a one-on-one.

 

[La Vache]

9:15 mark - see Brereton giving McIntosh some advice. Great leadership.

Poor old Woosh looked a little despondent at times in that video! And it's easy to forget just how good JD was

It really was a different era of footy. Every contest was a one-on-one.

I watched it in full about a year ago and there is another thing that I noticed. It's also evident in those highlights.

Morissey, Platten, Condon and Hudson all kicked on their non-preferred foot into dangerous spots without a second thought. Pritchard, Jarman and Hall were others in that team who could kick very well on the left and Dunstall could snap well.

Right now Hawthorn has Osbourne and Mitchell who can do this and Hodge is o.k. The rest are pretty poor on their opposite boot. That is a trend throughout footy as well.

 

[SJ]

1995 was actually the last HALF TIME entertainment as such, and was a tribute to Australian Cinema, complete with John Paul Young's Love Is In The Air (reworded by Roy and HG to Ablett's In The Air). Pre Match that year was Tina Arena.

No, that was done by the Music Men.

 

[Hodgepodge]

JD was playing on one leg in that final. Normally he'd kill his opponent on the lead but he had to stick to simply outbodying him.

 

[Furn]

After this GF win, Joyce had coached 2 years for 2 day and 2 night premierships. I think the Hawks also won the 92 pre season giving him 5 from 5 possible wins.

Not bad. Shame he coouldn't keep it up.

Also the Eagles, after finishing 19-3 with a percentage of 161 and losing, would win the next year after finishing 4th wth a 15-6-1 record and percentage of 126. Just shows H&A records mean little.

 

[speedpeck23]

Love the 1991 Grand Final. Favourite memories ..... the sequence of play in the final quarter where the ball went from Hawk legend to Hawk legend etc etc for a goal ..it put the icing on the cake of the Hawks phenomonal era 1983 to 1991. 5 flags. I doubt that a Grand Final has ever seen such a sequence of multi premiership players successively passing the ball to each other at such a momentous time in a clubs history. Another standout, apart from Dermies 4 goals and the Hawks come from behind victory in which I think they kicked 7 last quarter goals was simply the fact that it was Hawthorn's 8th appearance in the big one out of 9 seasons....I think an VFL/AFL record.

So many great memories for the Hawks at Waverley and to think now it is our home base!! I guess it was Hawthorn's complete and utter domination of the AFL/VFL competition during the existence of Waverley 1970 to 1999. 30 years...12 Grand Finals...8 Premierships....lost count of the night premierships, Hudson and Dunstalls goalkicking performances...it was too much for everybody else to stomach....Waverley had to go.... but what an unforgetable ground whether you liked it or not!!!

 

[kriles76]

Also Tucky becoming al all time grat and collecting his 7th flag.

Is the closest other 5 flags ?

Barassi had 6. Possibly some other Melbourne players could have done the same in the 50's & 60's.

 

[anthc]

No wonder its only on funny footy stuff these days, right before the woman at Carrara eating the pie and after 'theres a pig at full forward'

ps
I know a better GF from that year, Steven Sims sure earnt his 12 weeks!

yes sims certainly did earn his 12 weeks

 

[TheGhostOfJohnBelushi]

One of the all-time funny clownish moments during the medal presentations, topped only by Carlton's Peter Dean in 1987, who tried to jump up on a railing while wearing his footy boots and fell arse over tit, off the stage

I believe that was 1995.

The 1991 GF was the first AFL game I ever watched. I was just a kid and had no interest in football, and didn't really care about the Eagles' amazing season to date (in fact, hearing people talk about it at the time annoyed me).

But watching the game with my parents, I became heartbroken, because this team was representing an entire state that had so much hope.

Needless to say, I was hooked on AFL from then on in. Absolutely spoiled by the 1992 season in my first year as a fan (although there were some dark days, particularly early season and then losses to Collingwood, St Kilda and Footscray that really made me doubt the team's chances).

I also recall a doco called The Eagles Are Seven from the start of 1993, which had a snippet of Leigh Matthews saying the 1991 GF was "the dullest, most boring grand final any of us had ever been to". I believe he blamed it being at Waverley, an overcast day and a non-Vic team competing for the first time. He even mentioned that it doesn't count as a premiership because it was at Waverley. I found that pretty humourous from a Hawthorn legend (granted he was Collingwood coach at the time).

 

[Koki Freelander]

I remember it well, not discussed alot since but I can't put the say the 96' gf in front of it in terms of making a mark on the competition either. If we didn't have that hiccup in 1990 I'm sure it would be talked about alot more.

This.

Hawthorn were very strong in 1990, but kept having little hiccups that ultimately led to missing the double chance.

Would have been worthy Grand Finalists in 90 BUT Essendon and Collingwood were clearly the two best teams.

I think the thinking was that 90 was the end of the Hawks era, but they had a big finish to 91, made the Granny and were underdogs but drove it home nonetheless.

It feels out of place. It would be like Geelong winnign the premiership next year - possible but surprising

 

[Tas]

1999.

After Carlton upset the Bombers the Grand Final was a formality.

Not our fault your down-hill skiing team kept choking in PFs.

Seriously, how could you lose to Carlton in 99?

 

[Clay Davis]

Classic example of an inferior Vic side winning because of the very biased league it was then..
WC travelling 3 weeks in a row to Melb even though they finished on top. Playing against Hawthorn who were playing on their home ground. Some classic 'Vic umpiring'
If Hawthorn had to travel to Subi 3 weeks in a row and play WC in a GF, WC would of won by about 50 goals.

Ha, this is too good.

 

[crownie]

it certainly does lack that grand final feeling with the reasonsprobaly being it was at Waverly and people were probaly sick of hearing about Hawthorn winning grand finals

 

[Demonic Ascent]

Would have been worthy Grand Finalists in 90 BUT Essendon and Collingwood were clearly the two best teams.

Don't think you could say Coll'wood and Essendon were clearly the two best in '90. Melbourne beat Essendon twice during the year including at Windy Hill and also beat Hawthorn twice in successive weeks R22 and the EF. We also beat WCE twice including by 6 goals at Subi however they knocked us out of the finals. We were very up and down though as we got smashed by the Pies and North during the season with North reaching the double century. We did have a good record against the Pies in finals though knocking them out in both '88 & '89.

I think '90 would be one of the most even years I can remember as there were several teams all around the mark. From memory we finished fourth or fifth but there was only a game separating the finals teams.

I never really thought much about the '91 GF until I watched a tape a few years ago. I had avoided it due to the final margin thinking it must have been a blowout but I was surprised to see what a good game it actually was for 3 quarters. I remember being surprised as a kid as I thought the Hawthorn era was over after '90 and then they came back and won the flag the following year. Unbelievable.

 

[Pessimistic]

Not our fault your down-hill skiing team kept choking in PFs.

Seriously, how could you lose to Carlton in 99?

Dindt calton lose 2 key players between the PF and the GF ?

Perhaps another case of the 'final 8' slightly favouring second or third over first ?

 

[Father Jack]

I remember thinking at the time that we were a trifle unlucky in coming up against what would have to be one of the most seasoned GF performers in history in our first one.

Also, wasn't that the one where Dermie earned a little extra coin by stuffing bread in the cup during the lap of honour for the benefit of a sponsor?

 

[kidneyhawks]

i would of said 92 or 94 would be the least talked bout grand finals of all time

 

[WATTSJURRAHDUNN]

I re-watched this Grand Final a couple times this year. I have to say Dear was great at half forward but Stephen Lawrence was the MVP of the day and unlucky to miss the medal. Very clean hands.