1999 Draft re-done

[GrandBlue]

If the 1999 draft was re-done, what order would the players go from 1-10 (Including Father/Son picks)? Keep in note that a lot of good 100+ game players came later than you'd expect. Here's a link to it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_AFL_Draft

In my opinion:
#1. Matthew Pavlich
#2. Jonothan Brown
#3. Darren Glass
#4. Brad Green
#5. David Hille
#6. Robert Murphy
#7. Lindsay Gilbee
#8. Leon Davis
#9. Joel Corey
#10. Ryan O'Keefe

Also, because this is the Poll board, I added a Poll.

 

[whelan=legend]

I counted 17 other players i would rather ahead of him.

 

[budge11]

Davis and Corey in the top 5 of this draft IMO.

#1. Matthew Pavlich
#2. Jonothan Brown
#3. Darren Glass
#4. Joel Corey
#5. Leon Davis
#6. Ryan O'Keefe
#7. David Hille
#8. Robert Murphy
#9. Lindsay Gilbee
#10. Brad Green

 

[tribey]

#5. Leon Davis
#6. Ryan O'Keefe

Davis starts playing consistently elite football nearly a decade into his career and that places him ahead of Ryan O'Keefe, who is an All-Australian, key cog in a Premiership side and has been an elite midfielder/half-forward for a good 4 or 5 years?

I know the footy public has a huge tendency to live in the present, but come on.

 

[tribey]

#8. Leon Davis
#9. Joel Corey
#10. Ryan O'Keefe

Again, what the hell?

You'd pick Davis ahead of Corey and ROK?!

 

[tribey]

Incidentally,

01| Matthew Pavlich
02| Jonathan Brown
03| Darren Glass
04| Joel Corey
05| Ryan O'Keefe
06| Paul Chapman
07| David Hille
08| Cameron Ling
09| Cameron Bruce
10| Josh Fraser

 

[Z_K]

It is ridicuous how underrated Paul Chapman is. He is Geelong's second best player.

Pavlich
Brown
Chapman
Glass
Corey
O'Keefe
Murphy
Ling
Hille
Bruce

 

[Deledio_Judd]

In my opinion:
#1. Matthew Pavlich
#2. Jonathan Brown
#3. Darren Glass
#4. Joel Corey
#5. Paul Chapman
#6. Leon Davis
#7. Lindsay Gilbee
#8. David Hille
#9. Ryan O'Keefe
#10. Brad Green

 

[CrazyQ]

It is ridicuous how underrated Paul Chapman is. He is Geelong's second best player.

Pavlich
Brown
Chapman
Glass
Corey
O'Keefe
Murphy
Ling
Hille
Bruce

I rate him very very highly, but Scarlett is Geelong;s second best player. I'd have Chapman third.

 

[GrandBlue]

Again, what the hell?

You'd pick Davis ahead of Corey and ROK?!

Now that I think about it, screw Davis. Replace him with Chapman but hey, it's not like you're the only one right.

There were A LOT of players that are better than Cameron Ling than you think. Robert Murphy, Brad Green, Daniel Giansiracusa, Corey Enright and IMO, Leon Davis. The reason being is because they can actually find the ball without having to follow an opposition player. (I don't rate taggers anywhere near real players)

 

[Z_K]

Now that I think about it, screw Davis. Replace him with Chapman but hey, it's not like you're the only one right.

There were A LOT of players that are better than Cameron Ling than you think. Robert Murphy, Brad Green, Daniel Giansiracusa, Corey Enright and IMO, Leon Davis. The reason being is because they can actually find the ball without having to follow an opposition player. (I don't rate taggers anywhere near real players)

So you don't rate Ling because he smashes gun footballers and gets the footy and kicks goals? Interesting theory. Ling is a star.

On his worst day he is a better footballer than Giansiracusa. Brad Green would be ashamed to be mentioned in the same group.

 

[Z_K]

I rate him very very highly, but Scarlett is Geelong;s second best player. I'd have Chapman third.

Maybe. It's close.

There is not one important aspect of AFL football Chapman doesn't excel in. He's a freak.

 

[GrandBlue]

So you don't rate Ling because he smashes gun footballers and gets the footy and kicks goals? Interesting theory. Ling is a star.

On his worst day he is a better footballer than Giansiracusa. Brad Green would be ashamed to be mentioned in the same group.

You are overrating Cameron Ling to the shitter. So he's a good tagger, what is he like with the ball?... AVERAGE. Or so it's average compared to the likes of Gia, Murphy, Green etc. Ball usage isn't Ling's highlight and never will be. All he can do is tag and kick goals. Not a top 10 pick.

 

[CrazyQ]

You are overrating Cameron Ling to the shitter. So he's a good tagger, what is he like with the ball?... AVERAGE. Or so it's average compared to the likes of Gia, Murphy, Green etc. Ball usage isn't Ling's highlight and never will be. All he can do is tag and kick goals. Not a top 10 pick.

When Ling tags (remember he tags better quality players than a Gia or Green), he usually beats his opponent and racks up 20 disposals himself. Lately he's been kicking goals and is actually a very good shot at goal.

Ling is one of Geelong's most important player and is definitely a better footballer in this role than what Green does at Melbourne. I didnt rate Ling when he played as a ball-winning midfielder, he was rubbish.

But in this role, he is better than Green and Gia.

 

[Claude Balls]

You are overrating Cameron Ling to the shitter. So he's a good tagger, what is he like with the ball?... AVERAGE. Or so it's average compared to the likes of Gia, Murphy, Green etc. Ball usage isn't Ling's highlight and never will be. All he can do is tag and kick goals. Not a top 10 pick.

Ling is much more valuable than you think Grandblue. Firstly, he's not just any old tagger, but the best in the business, capable of completely eradicating elite midfielders such as Judd, Mitchell, Dal Santo, Cooney etc. Secondly, and to answer your question, he is a good natural footballer in his own right, possessing a very accurate kick and a strong overhead mark.

I don't see what the likes of Gia or Green bring to the table that is so much more valuable than Ling's contributions...

 

[Claude Balls]

If the 1999 draft was re-done, what order would the players go from 1-10 (Including Father/Son picks)? Keep in note that a lot of good 100+ game players came later than you'd expect. Here's a link to it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1999_AFL_Draft

In my opinion:
#1. Matthew Pavlich
#2. Jonothan Brown
#3. Darren Glass
#4. Brad Green
#5. David Hille
#6. Robert Murphy
#7. Lindsay Gilbee
#8. Leon Davis
#9. Joel Corey
#10. Ryan O'Keefe

Also, because this is the Poll board, I added a Poll.

No Paul Chapman? Slot him in at number 4 and get rid of Green.

Davis and Corey in the top 5 of this draft IMO.

#1. Matthew Pavlich
#2. Jonothan Brown
#3. Darren Glass
#4. Joel Corey
#5. Leon Davis
#6. Ryan O'Keefe
#7. David Hille
#8. Robert Murphy
#9. Lindsay Gilbee
#10. Brad Green

Likewise... where's Chappy?


Mine would go something like this:

1. Pavlich
2. Chapman
3. Glass
4. Hille
5. Corey
6. O'Keefe
7. Davis
8. Enright
9. Murphy
10. Green

 

[iGNITER]

1. Brown
2. Pavlich
3. Chapman
4. Glass
5. Davis
6. Hille
7. Corey
8. Fraser
9. O'Keefe
10. Bruce

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

1. Pavlich
2. Brown
3. Chapman
4. Glass
5. Corey
6. O'Keefe
7. Davis
8. Hille
9. Gilbee
10. Ling

 

[Gods_Son23]

talent wise no, butttttt he is a reasonable - good ruck man which are hard to come by which move you much higher in the peaking order.

 

[Judd2Sewell]

Joel Corey at 8, behind the likes of Gilbee? Ridiculous.

Pavlich is easily the best player out of that draft, after that there are several good players that would be in with a shout - and would have probably been picked on a needs-to-team basis.

Pavlich
Brown
Glass
Corey
Chapman
Green
Okeefe
Davis
Hille
Murphy / Gilbee / Ling / Enright (for what it's worth, I think Ling's the better player out of the four)

 

[Stifler's mom]

No Paul Chapman? Slot him in at number 4 and get rid of Green.



Likewise... where's Chappy?


Mine would go something like this:

1. Pavlich
2. Chapman
3. Glass
4. Hille
5. Corey
6. O'Keefe
7. Davis
8. Enright
9. Murphy
10. Green

Don't rate Jonathan Brown?

 

[GrandBlue]

No Paul Chapman? Slot him in at number 4 and get rid of Green.



Likewise... where's Chappy?


Mine would go something like this:

1. Pavlich
2. Chapman
3. Glass
4. Hille
5. Corey
6. O'Keefe
7. Davis
8. Enright
9. Murphy
10. Green

You rate 9 players better than Brown? Bwaha!

Also, about Ling. I know he's the best tagger in the comp and he can fetch a lot of the ball as well but when it comes to using the ball or running with the ball, he doesn't stand out compared to something like Davis, Gia or Green whom are all utilities and can play anywhere around the field. I think Ling is a good player, I just don't rate him as top 10 material in such a strong draft.

Oh, and I already corrected my Chapman mistake. Replace Davis with Chapman.

 

[freo_boy]

considering J Brown was father son, it would be very interesting to see how it would of worked out had he not been eligible.

I remember clearly collingwood making it known early that fraser was their intended pick, but brown had to be in top 3 - 5 contention from all clubs. Hase was always coming to freo at pick 2 considering his form with the sharks all year, and freo were disapointed to a degree because fiora went to richmond.
That disapointment obviously didn't last long because they ended up with Pavlich.

that said, richmond may have ended up with Brown - or even Brown and Pav might of even ended up together in the same forward line.

just makes you think i reckon

 

[Claude Balls]

Don't rate Jonathan Brown?

You rate 9 players better than Brown? Bwaha!

Also, about Ling. I know he's the best tagger in the comp and he can fetch a lot of the ball as well but when it comes to using the ball or running with the ball, he doesn't stand out compared to something like Davis, Gia or Green whom are all utilities and can play anywhere around the field. I think Ling is a good player, I just don't rate him as top 10 material in such a strong draft.

Oh, and I already corrected my Chapman mistake. Replace Davis with Chapman.

This is the '99 draft re-done isn't it? As far as 'm aware, Brown was a father son, so would go in exactly the same position as he did last time... that's why I didn't include him. If you wanna simply express the best 10 from that draft, I'd have him number 2.

Re Ling, I see you what you're saying, and that's fair enough. I coudn't fit him in the top 10 either. I was just picking a bone with your earlier comments, which were fairly unreasonable.

 

[thebigboy]

Assuming Brown is available.

1. Brown
2. Pavlich
3. Corey
4. Chapman
5. Hille
6. O'Keefe
7. Glass
8. Davis
9. Bateman
10. Gilbee.