1st ODI Australia v Pakistan, November 4 1400hrs @ the MCG

[JackOutback]

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I'm all for giving a young bloke a go but I can't recall someone with so little getting a shot.

Davey Warner.

 

[Around the Wicket]

Davey Warner.

averaged 60 in List A cricket strike rate of 130 odd when he made the T20I debut

 

[JackOutback]

averaged 60 in List A cricket strike rate of 130 odd when he made the T20I debut

Fair, I'm probably thinking of his international debut coming without having played first class cricket, which was unheard of at the time.

 

[PhatBoy]

It just kind of shows that the runfests which comprise most of cricket these days aren't the sort of contests people like watching. Give me a deck which lets the bowlers in a bit and that'll produce an interesting match, whether we're talking T20 or ODI's or a test match.

And no, a low and slow deck with most of the runs scored through third man or via deflections in which players who want to attack are penalised is not a good deck. It just creates attritional cricket, which bores any particular audience.

I'm looking at you, England, when I say this. If you produce the sort of deck Ian Bell or Al Cook could bat forever on, that's boring for the majority of cricket fans. A fast deck with regular bounce; a turning deck with consistency; a green deck with good movement in the air for ODI's ant T20's; something more challenging for tests, and you'll see a lot more interest in those formats again.

Agree bar one point: Bell by the end of his career was a joy to watch IMO

 

[Gethelred]

Agree bar one point: Bell by the end of his career was a joy to watch IMO

I had a lot of time for Ian Bell, but his preferred surface was one of the most boring surfaces imaginable. However deft and delicate his strokeplay behind square either side of the wicket he was, those surfaces were the bane of positive cricket and favoured attritional approaches.

 

[010203]

Pat Cummins Captain Climate is Captain Clutch.

 

[Nuggetz]

flipping cummins. Too good again.

 

[western royboy]

He is struggling as he does not know his position...up and down the batting order....he is a part time bowler but the selectors want to make him into a genuine all rounder..he is a batter firs IMO

If he’s a batter first then what was that?

Better players have had NTBS put against their name for less in the past compared to what he and JFM did last night.

 

[Tugga27]

He is struggling as he does not know his position...up and down the batting order....he is a part time bowler but the selectors want to make him into a genuine all rounder..he is a batter firs IMO

Sorry Westy, I'm not copping that.
Showed no match awareness at all.

Dreadful shot.

 

[Black Diamond]

The match awareness point is a good one. Only Smith batted responsibly. Inglis may have scarred a few but with unnecessary risks.

There was a time when the openers could have been trusted to try reaching the total themselves.

 

[Westend]

Sorry Westy, I'm not copping that.
Showed no match awareness at all.

Dreadful shot.

Yeah I know just stating what's going on with him atm in general

 

[NYRB]

Decisions for me after the Melbourne Cup.


Melbourne to Adelaide?

or

Melbourne to Sydney (home)?

Someone convince me its worth going to Adelaide for ODI as I've never been there before.

 

[JackOutback]

Decisions for me after the Melbourne Cup.


Melbourne to Adelaide?

or

Melbourne to Sydney (home)?

Someone convince me its worth going to Adelaide for ODI as I've never been there before.

I quite enjoyed Adelaide, though a big part of that was driving out to the Barossa Valley and surrounding towns. Even then, Adelaide is quite nice for short stay, nice craft brewer on the river, zipline in the city centre, some nice markets. Or take a tram to the beach at Glenelg. Throw in a game at Adelaide Oval (which I haven't been into) and it could definitely make a nice trip.

 

[Cleavy]

Decisions for me after the Melbourne Cup.


Melbourne to Adelaide?

or

Melbourne to Sydney (home)?

Someone convince me its worth going to Adelaide for ODI as I've never been there before.

do it, do it!

 

[Mav]

901 runs @ 48 striking at 160 in World Cups, the only ODIs that matter.

111 people have more than 500 runs in World Cups and no one is within 40 of his strike rate and he's still averaging 48.

against the big teams in WC's

England averages 33
India averages 21
New Zealand averages 14
South Africa averages 5

 

[Saint12]

Is cricket one of the only sports that the standard/ skill of the participants has massively declined

 

[The 747]

Well this is exciting