1st ODI - Australia vs Pakistan @ the Gabba (Jan 13)

[Kram]

F*CK

He should be the poster child for the BF argument that Shield stats are the be all of Test selection.

 

[Outshined]

To be fair to John, his sole test wicket is AB de Villiers...so in some ways he's the real winner.

But yes very true, a sub 30 average doesn't equate to world class fast bowler. Especially when you're sending down 120km mediums.

 

[Underdog]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ring_road

Thank you. We don't have any in Perth

 

[Bradesmaen]

To be fair to John, his sole test wicket is AB de Villiers...so in some ways he's the real winner.

But yes very true, a sub 30 average doesn't equate to world class fast bowler. Especially when you're sending down 120km mediums.

Works for Philander and he raped us.

 

[Outshined]

Works for Philander and he raped us.

Philander's a bit sharper than 120 (when at full tilt).

 

[Bradesmaen]

Philander's a bit sharper than 120 (when at full tilt).

He bowls the same pace as Hastings

 

[ROOTA#6]

He bowls the same pace as Hastings

But moves the pill both ways at will

 

[Kram]

He bowls the same pace as Hastings

He actually has a high level of talent though..

edit - oh I get it now, bet this is something to do with Sayers getting passed over

 

[The_Reaper]

When you take into account all three forms, our domestic scene is started to resemble England in the 80s, and 90s with every second player having been called up at some point.

By my reckoning there are at least sixty four players currently contracted to shield sides who have represented Australia at international level.

The Big Bash adds ten more but includes guys like Johnson, Haddin and Watson with pretty extensive international career.

But 64 players over 6 shield sides is well and truly every second player.

About 40 of those 64 have played tests but only 8 have played 20 tests and 23 have played 5 or fewer tests.

Spoiler: Maximum Autism

New South Wales

#  Player            Tests ODIs T20Is
1. Steve Smith          50   91    30
2. David Warner         60   89    63
3. Moises Henriques      4    8     6
4. Peter Nevill         17    0     9
5. Nic Maddinson         3    0     2
6. Ed Cowan             18    0     0
7. Nathan Lyon          63   13     1
8. Doug Bollinger       12   39     9
9. Gurinder Sandhu       0    2     0
10.Trent Copeland        3    0     0
11.Steve O'Keefe         4    0     7
12.Mitchell Starc       34   60    22
13.Josh Hazlewood       26   29     7
14.Pat Cummins           1   22    15
15.Sean Abbott           0    1     3
16.Ben Rohrer            0    0     1

Queensland

#  Player            Tests ODIs T20Is
1. Usman Khawaja        23   15     9
2. Mat Renshaw           4    0     0
3. Ben Cutting           0    4     4
4. Joe Burns            13    6     0
5. Peter George          1    0     0
6. Peter Forrest         0   15     0
7. Nathan Reardon        0    0     2
8. Billy Stanlake        0    1     0

South Australia

#  Player            Tests ODIs T20Is
1. Travis Head           0   16     4
2. Dan Worrall           0    3     0
3. Callum Ferguson       1   30     3
4. Adam Zampa            0   19     8
5. Kane Richardson       0   12     3
6. Joe Mennie            1    2     0

Tasmania

#  Player            Tests ODIs T20Is
1. George Bailey         5   90    29
2. Alex Doolan           4    0     0
3. James Faulkner        1   62    21
4. Jackson Bird          8    0     0
5. Cameron Boyce         0    0     7
6. Ben Dunk              0    0     3
7. Tim Paine             4   26     5
8. Xavier Doherty        4   60    11

Victoria

#  Player            Tests ODIs T20Is
1. Cameron White         4   88    47
2. Peter Handscomb       4    0     0
3. Dan Christian         0   19    15
4. Peter Siddle         62   17     2
5. Aaron Finch           0   77    28
6. Matthew Wade         16   83    26
7. Glenn Maxwell         3   68    36
8. Scott Boland          0   14     3
9. John Hastings         1   28     9
10.Marcus Stoinis        0    1     1
11.Jon Holland           2    0     0
12.Chris Tremain         0    4     0
13.Michael Beer          2    0     0
14.Rob Quiney            2    0     0
15.Fawad Ahmed           0    3     2
16.James Pattinson      17   15     4
17.James Muirhead        0    0     5

Western Australia

#  Player            Tests ODIs T20Is
1. Shaun Marsh          19   51   15
2. Adam Voges           20   31    7
3. Hilton Cartwright     1    0    0
4. Cameron Bancroft      0    0    1
5. Ashton Agar           2    2    2
6. Mitch Marsh          19   47    9
7. Nathan Coulter-Nile   0   16   17
8. Andrew Tye            0    0    3
9. Joel Paris            0    2    0

Big Bash Only

#  Player            Tests ODIs T20Is
1. Brad Hodge            6   25    15
2. Ben Laughlin          0    5     3
3. Shaun Tait            3   35    21
4. Brad Hogg             7  123    15
5. Ben Hilfenhaus       27   25     7
6. David Hussey          0   69    39
7. Mitchell Johnson     73  153    30
8. Brad Haddin          66  126    34
9. Clint McKay           1   59     6
10.Shane Watson         59  190    58

 

[Bradesmaen]

He actually has a high level of talent though..

edit - oh I get it now, bet this is something to do with Sayers getting passed over

Correct sir. Better bowler than Sarc

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Correct sir. Better bowler than Sarc

Philander or Sayers. Uppercut yourself if the latter.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Philander or Sayers. Uppercut yourself if the latter.

Please, both are. Sarc is an ordinary long form bowler as has been proved time and time again.

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Please, both are. Sarc is an ordinary long form bowler as has been proved time and time again.

Horseshit. Sayers better than Starc.
Put the pipe down. That's completely ludicrous.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Horseshit. Sayers better than Starc.
Put the pipe down. That's completely ludicrous.

Stats prove a different story.

 

[Zach Package]

Horseshit. Sayers better than Starc.
Put the pipe down. That's completely ludicrous.

Sayers test record speaks for itself

 

[Art Vandelay_]

Sayers test record speaks for itself

I know right, he's a test GOAT in the making.

 

[Bradesmaen]

Sayers test record speaks for itself

as does Starcs ordinary record against non minnows

 

[Mateyman]

as does Starcs ordinary record against non minnows

South Africa and England the well known minnows. It's a shame Sri Lanka are such minnows too when our other bowlers couldn't buy a wicket over there and they flogged us 3-0.

 

[Bradesmaen]

South Africa and England the well known minnows. It's a shame Sri Lanka are such minnows too when our other bowlers couldn't buy a wicket over there and they flogged us 3-0.

His record against RSA and England is terrible and makes him look like a grade cricketer,

 

[Dayan Warna]

Until the selectors call up our equivalent of Derek Pringle we haven't sunk that low.

Henriques

 

[Scorpus]

His record against RSA and England is terrible and makes him look like a grade cricketer,

He averages 28.7 against South Africa and 31.2 against England in test cricket.

Steyn also averages 31 against England

 

[Mateyman]

His record against RSA and England is terrible and makes him look like a grade cricketer,

Averaging 30 between the 2? What are you on about?

 

[Zach Package]

as does Starcs ordinary record against non minnows

You idiot

 

[Andronicus]

Works for Philander and he raped us.

Classless.

Are you that devoid of analogies you need to rely on sex offences?

 

[Bradesmaen]

Classless.

Are you that devoid of analogies you need to rely on sex offences?

Rape is not just a word used for the offence of sexual intercourse without consent. You'd know that if you used a dictionary once in your life.