Opening with him in England will be silly
1st Test - Australia vs South Africa @ The WACA (Nov 3-7)
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Opening with him in England will be silly
He's the number 2 ranked batsman in the world, one of a handful - ABDV is the only other one I can think off the top of my head (Root possibly - Kohli falls short in tests) to average 50 in both formats, and averages exactly 6 international innings per century in tests/odis .
Fair to say, if he hasn't turned into what you thought he would, you had reasonably high expectations.
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3 years away. Khawaja stays at No.3
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Heaps of better options going around.
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I understand the desire to have an allrounder in there however it doesn't match up with our rotation policy.
If we're going to pick our best bowlers every match then it makes sense to have someone who can bowl at No 6 and spread the workload. Precent those guys from getting absolutely cooked.
However we rotate them anyway so we may as well go in with four bowlers.
How the hell is Usman a kid?
He's 29 and a Sheffield Shield Captain and is older than the national Captain.
He's 29 and a Sheffield Shield Captain and is older than the national Captain.
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Playing Burns in India would be catastrophic!
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You're probably right, but not like we're stacked with good players of spin. What's Warner's average in India?
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Yep
Warner, smith and I think Voges are all capable.
Nothing quite like an opposition batsmen throwing their wicket away to a part timer.
Warner's bowling is really, really, really, really s**t.
I have no idea why people even think he is a part timer.
I have no idea why people even think he is a part timer.
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crap from a NSW boy, Has NSW actually played any games away from Sydney this year ??? only 1 shield game 8 others
at home on flat decks producing big scores,and plenty of turn for O keekeeeeeeeeeeeeee, boosting there egos
has MAddison ,Patterson and Henriques ,scored any run outside of NSW, ( exclude Canberra) NO
http://stats.espncricinfo.com/ci/en...=1;template=results;type=batting;view=innings
Burns has scored 3 hundreds and 4 fifty's in his 12 tests, Excellent return
Spare a thought for the Tassie boys , no games at home YET ( a distinct disadvantage for guys pressing for test selection )
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The Max Walker Aerogard one was pretty good.
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Flat track bully and is our VC
Mr Warner"s scores this year(2016) at overseas test venues is certainly nothing to write home about
5 14 7 0 0 71.42 2 caught 2 v New Zealand Wellington 12 Feb 2016 Test # 2201
12 29 22 2 0 54.54 1 caught 2 v New Zealand Christchurch 20 Feb 2016 Test # 2202
22 54 33 3 0 66.66 2 caught 4 v New Zealand Christchurch 20 Feb 2016 Test # 2202
0 10 5 0 0 0.00 2 bowled 2 v Sri Lanka Pallekele 26 Jul 2016 Test # 2209
1 7 4 0 0 25.00 2 bowled 4 v Sri Lanka Pallekele 26 Jul 2016 Test # 2209
42 49 41 7 0 102.43 2 caught 2 v Sri Lanka Galle 4 Aug 2016 Test # 2213
41 46 31 7 0 132.25 1 lbw 4 v Sri Lanka Galle 4 Aug 2016 Test # 2213
11 13 9 1 1 122.22 1 caught 2 v Sri Lanka Colombo (SSC) 13 Aug 2016 Test # 2217
68 109 94 6 1 72.34 2 bowled 4 v Sri Lanka Colombo (SSC) 13 Aug 2016 Test # 2217
Mr Warner"s scores this year(2016) at overseas test venues is certainly nothing to write home about
5 14 7 0 0 71.42 2 caught 2 v New Zealand Wellington 12 Feb 2016 Test # 2201
12 29 22 2 0 54.54 1 caught 2 v New Zealand Christchurch 20 Feb 2016 Test # 2202
22 54 33 3 0 66.66 2 caught 4 v New Zealand Christchurch 20 Feb 2016 Test # 2202
0 10 5 0 0 0.00 2 bowled 2 v Sri Lanka Pallekele 26 Jul 2016 Test # 2209
1 7 4 0 0 25.00 2 bowled 4 v Sri Lanka Pallekele 26 Jul 2016 Test # 2209
42 49 41 7 0 102.43 2 caught 2 v Sri Lanka Galle 4 Aug 2016 Test # 2213
41 46 31 7 0 132.25 1 lbw 4 v Sri Lanka Galle 4 Aug 2016 Test # 2213
11 13 9 1 1 122.22 1 caught 2 v Sri Lanka Colombo (SSC) 13 Aug 2016 Test # 2217
68 109 94 6 1 72.34 2 bowled 4 v Sri Lanka Colombo (SSC) 13 Aug 2016 Test # 2217
The idea that he is a handy part-timer appears to have gained web traction. The constant repetition of it seems to make it so.
Bizarre.
He's averaging something like 8 overs an innings. But he swings between bugger all and a full load depending on the state of the other bowlers, the state of the opposition batting innings and Smith's call..
I'm not saying that he should be in the team, it's more that I can't see the selectors doing without any all-rounderz.
Mate, most batsmen are "flat track bullies", even legends.
Slater (Home: 52.63, Away: 35.29)
Warner (Home: 60.80, Away: 38.54)
Clarke (Home: 62.05, Away: 39.50)
Walters (Home: 57.83, Away: 39.52)
Lawry (Home: 56.36, Away: 39.61)
Boon (Home: 46.34, Away: 40.01)
Langer (Home: 48.66, Away: 41.37)
Hussey (Home: 61.19, Away: 41.37)
Hayden (Home: 57.89, Away: 42.69)
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Letting any of our batsmen bat in any position in England is silly.
Biggest issue with the team isn't being flat track bullies, it's scores in the third and fourth innings.
Smith's average in the first innings of a test match is 88.08, his average in the fourth is 33.23 and he's never scored a century. In the past, captains like Waugh used to be able to rely on others in the last innings if they struggled, but Smith doesn't have that team and needs to shoulder more responsibility.
If a match is going into a fourth innings and Australia is batting, there's a fair chance there's a chase on. So can Australia afford having their captain average 33 while chasing? He's also made only one third innings hundred as well, on that road against New Zealand in Perth. So opposition teams know that if you get Smith out cheaply in the first dig, you're not likely to see much in the second.
Another stat is since his hundred against New Zealand in Hobart, Warner hasn't scored a century in the fourth innings of a test match. Most of his hundreds in the third innings of test matches have been when Australia is on top. Time for those to think about how they play better and smarter later in test matches where their batting is important and the other lesser players look upon them to step up, they are afterall captain and vice captain.
Smith's average in the first innings of a test match is 88.08, his average in the fourth is 33.23 and he's never scored a century. In the past, captains like Waugh used to be able to rely on others in the last innings if they struggled, but Smith doesn't have that team and needs to shoulder more responsibility.
If a match is going into a fourth innings and Australia is batting, there's a fair chance there's a chase on. So can Australia afford having their captain average 33 while chasing? He's also made only one third innings hundred as well, on that road against New Zealand in Perth. So opposition teams know that if you get Smith out cheaply in the first dig, you're not likely to see much in the second.
Another stat is since his hundred against New Zealand in Hobart, Warner hasn't scored a century in the fourth innings of a test match. Most of his hundreds in the third innings of test matches have been when Australia is on top. Time for those to think about how they play better and smarter later in test matches where their batting is important and the other lesser players look upon them to step up, they are afterall captain and vice captain.
No Martyn in that list!
Not just flat track bullies but front-running flat track bullies. We knew that.
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