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'2 Nations, 1 Obsession' doco on Australia-India rivalry.

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  1. 90N90S

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    "Virat Kohli will lead India's Test outfit to Australia next month, not only as the world's number-one ranked team but carrying overwhelming expectation of an unprecedented series victory on Australia’s turf.

    The upheaval that has vastly altered Australia's playing personnel and on-field aura means India are favoured to end 70 years of failure on the continent where they’ve not won a Test series in 11 previous attempts, stretching back to their first tour against Don Bradman's men in 1947-48.

    Perhaps more potently, India touring teams have found travelling to Australia as alien and intimidating as have their arch-opponents when faced with the confounding conditions of the sub-continent.

    The fundamental differences in culture and character between two countries so inextricably linked by their passion for cricket is a compelling narrative explored in the two-part series 2 Nations, 1 Obsession that premieres on Fox Cricket next month."

    https://www.cricket.com.au/news/2-n...ket-rivalry-border-gavaskar-trophy/2018-10-12

    Should be good looking forward to it.
     
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    Looking forward to this in particular the bits and pieces to do with 2007-08 series here. The tied test in 86 was covered in the ABC documentary ''Cricket In The 80's''.

    There's surely surely enough content for a similar documentary on the rivalry between Australia and South Africa even if it just takes in what's happened since South Africa's readmission into international cricket.
     
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    Trailer 1

     
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    Trailer 2

     
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    Did anyone watch part one last night ?
     
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    Watched both parts and was quite impressed at the production quality. Would have liked some input from more high profile Indian cricketers from recent times (surely they could have done better than Mohammad Kaif and Murali Kartik?). Anyway it was a good watch and it’s got me pumped for the summer ahead.
     
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    I haven't watched part 2 yet but felt that the 2001 series could have had more time devoted to it.
     
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    2001 deserves a lot more.

    I was surprised that they didn't talk about the 2003, 2011, and 2015 WC battles.

    Also Shastri really is a piece of work.
     
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    Reckon Shastri had a few Kingfishers under the belt before his interview.
     
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    I watched and was quite impressed. Shastri is a jerk though.

    Wish we'd heard from someone like Dravid though, who is the Indian cricketer I easily have the most respect for and find the most compelling to listen to.
     
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    I swear Shastri has a reason for why India had the moral victory in every single game they've ever lost. He's like the Indian Plugger :p
     

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    You know that is an amazing metaphor lol
     
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    Shastri referring to 'Spicy Australian women' made me queasy. Also spare a thought for Murali Kartik's neck. That bead necklace looks suffocating.
     
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    That probably translates into a fair few Australian women having told Ravi to **** off over the years.
     
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    The indian sporting public care far for more deeply about cricket than the Australian public where the sport is a secondary one
     
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    Secondary?

    We are the lone nation outside of India and England that gets big crowds to almost every game played.
    Certainly India are more obsessed than us but secondary? Nah mate.
     
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    Like in England, football is the number one passion of the public
     
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    lol, Australia is the most cricket mad country outside the subcontinent. You could argue that we are just as if not more passionate about Test cricket than any other country on earth, particularly if you look at crowd numbers. Granted Aussie rules is more popular in half the country but it doesn’t compete head on with cricket anyway.

    We follow a hell of a lot more sports than India but that doesn’t make cricket a secondary sport at all. All over the country it is an integral part of our cultural fabric.
     
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    Australia wide, cricket would be here. Afl has huge crowd numbers but by and large there are about 10 million people north of the Murray who simply don’t give a shit. Likewise those south of it don’t care about league. The common factor is cricket.
     
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    No we're not

    Its following same trend here as in England

    Football dominates. Cricket is reduced to 3 months of the year.

    In India cricket is the dominant sport. Its head in the sand to think Australia is the same
     
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    We follow more sports and we don’t have a billion people living here, so yes we obviously have fewer people following cricket here. Not sure why you think anyone is arguing otherwise. To make the argument that cricket is a secondary sport in Australia off the back of the fact that the likes of Steve Smith and David Warner are able to walk down the street without getting mobbed by thousands of people like Virat does in Delhi is asinine.

    The average Australian sports fan doesn’t care about limited over cricket anywhere near as much as Indians do but we do pull in the highest Test crowds in the world.
     
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    Its an interesting time for cricket this country

    I genuinely feel we are shifting and the sport has become boutique.

    It will be shown in this test series when it will become almost.embarrassing that team support at the ground will be predominantly indian.

    This is happening in England.

    Its not wrong. Its just simpy is.

    Australian sporing public will tune in and there will be pockets with intense interest (test cricket is great) but the reality is our support is largely indifferent

    Appreciate and understand you.feel differently. Like the debate.

    Happy to be shot down in flames
     
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    Boutique?
    There are 8 teams that don’t even really exist who play each other in a dozen or so meaningless matches each every summer that draw huge crowds. Those sides don’t represent nations, they represent made up franchises.
     
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    Yes boutique compared to football (whatever code)
     
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    Domestic team rivalry ( as in 20-20) seems to draw better crowds than international cricket

    The 50 over games crowds last few years.have been embarrassing
     
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