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Player Watch #20 Riak Andrew
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What was said?
Was the victim part of the LGBTQ community or did they report to the umpire to get a free kick?
There’s zero transparency about the incident and a 5 game penalty is way beyond overkill
Was the victim part of the LGBTQ community or did they report to the umpire to get a free kick?
There’s zero transparency about the incident and a 5 game penalty is way beyond overkill
Gawd, is this still going.
I think it's pretty obvious what was said without the media spelling it out. It doesn't matter who it was aimed at or how it was reported.
Fact of the matter is that he chose to abuse another player and chose to use a word that is also used as a term of hate towards LGBTQ people. He could have chosen from any number of insults that aren't primarily used to attack a marginalised group, but he didn't.
His intent is entirely irrelevant. He used a highly offensive and bigoted word and is being punished for it. There is nothing complicated about it.
Fact of the matter is that he chose to abuse another player and chose to use a word that is also used as a term of hate towards LGBTQ people. He could have chosen from any number of insults that aren't primarily used to attack a marginalised group, but he didn't.
His intent is entirely irrelevant. He used a highly offensive and bigoted word and is being punished for it. There is nothing complicated about it.
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Yep this isn't just a slip of the tongue and it shouldn't ever be classified that as it just downplays abuse that people receive.
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Can't sweep shit under the carpet Bedford.
It sticks and is still smelly.
Gotta stop the shit happening in the first place.
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Who is martin
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There are some serious 'replacement theory' undertones to this bedders. And I know that you hate Rupert Murdoch & his ilk, so it's mildly amusing, but mostly just ironic and disconcerting, to see you regurgitating their talking points.
I honestly believe mental heath is a bigger issue and prevention is the way to go , but people need to be aware
Four times the amount of people killed on Vic roads commit suicide , it's massive and that can take in people of all walks of life
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Even that sentence there, I don't think you realise the undertone.
I see a community & people simply being represented in the media as they are, you see them being "shoved down your throat."
It's a negative connotation for something that shouldn't be negative at all.
And the Swans also represent these causes. They've participated in awareness campaigns for domestic violence, they've partnered with mental health organisations like the Black Dog Institute, they've partnered with Road Safety NSW for road toll awareness.
Yet you never considered any of those causes to be "shoved down your throat."
I've formed a view that Mac Andrew is perhaps THE most over-hyped player in the AFL.
His performance this year doesn't come close to justifying the contract the Suns gave him.
Here's hoping Riak is the Chad, not the Corey of the Andrew family.
His performance this year doesn't come close to justifying the contract the Suns gave him.
Here's hoping Riak is the Chad, not the Corey of the Andrew family.
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That would be me
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LGBTIQ people have higher rates of mental ill-health and suicide than the general population in Australia, due to experiences of discrimination and stigma.
41.9% of LGBTIQ people had considered suicide in the previous 12 months, with 78.4% considering suicide at some point during their lives
There are strong links between a continued experience of discrimination and exclusion, and subsequent trauma in LGBTIQ populations.
LGBTIQ people are not counted in the census. This means that health policy and funding which is determined by census data routinely leave out LGBTIQ populations, perpetuating a cycle of invisibility in service planning and delivery
LGBTIQ young people aged 16 to 27 are five times more likely to attempt suicide (16% report attempting suicide)
Source; suicidepreventionaust.org based on an Aust Govt study.
Geez I wonder how they'd go if we didn't 'bow down' to them?
That's why i said include it in the mental health , i never said that was just for straight people , it's everywhere
This is where prevention is where it has to start for all people
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So so ignorant
In your opinion , just because i don't agree with some other peoples views .I'm more conscious of mental heath
I've seen enough in women's footy to have this view .
Come at me all you like , no one is perfect especially not me and who says you are !
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With all due respect though bedders, who died and made you the arbiter of what's important and what isn't?
You may be more conscious of mental health issues because it's effected you personally, but someone who is LGBTQ might be more conscious of LGBTQ issues because it's effected them personally. Just as a woman may be more conscious of women's rights issues because it's effected them personally. Or a person of colour may be more conscious of issues relating to them because it has effected them personally.*
Etc.
The moral of the story being that, shockingly, the world does not revolve around bedford from Victoria. Or caesar from Perth. Or any one individual, for that matter. Not everything has to pertain to you or speak to you in some way (though it also can't hurt to have a little compassion and try to learn and understand about people's experiences that are different from your own.)
(And as hairy biker brilliantly put above, a lot of the aforementioned issues such as LGBTQ and mental health are intertwined anyway.)
I probably agree with most of what you posted and i won't repeat what i told you as i do know peoples experiences in the gay world.
Nothing just to do with me with Mental Health , plenty others ive experienced in playing coaching and volunteering in many decades of local sport . Try and find a young boy hanging from a tree near the club . If we knew there was issues he like others might've been saved . Im allowed to pyritise what i find more important , that's it and don't need to be called ignorant by a bully
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As I said I understand your perspective.
But no one's told you that you shouldn't care about mental health, or that your AFL club shouldn't raise awareness for mental health, or described mental health awareness as being "shoved down our throat."
Yet you've said all of that back the other way about LGBTQ awareness.
I think that is the difference and why you might get push back.
I do understand other people's views on this trust me , both sides are allowed an opinion
I just don't like that the jumper is changed and we did nothing on ANZAC round with it .
That's it , both sides have to accept others as you say
ps we are the club that supports a certain airline
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Going to be really interesting to see how the VFL defence goes with Mal as coach
Carmichael Edwards Snell
Bice/Roberts Serong/Hamling Andrew
Guessing Kyle will play mids though possibly 7th defender.
One of the talls might play KPF.
It says 89% percentile. Is it an afl percentile?
It looks impressive. Do you know how this translates to say what this year's draftees are doing. Kyle was up there in this. Or does this show a big improvement for Riak from previous.
It looks impressive. What's the context of this photo.
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The context of the photo is Riak doing extra off-season training at an athletic performance gym in Melbourne
South East Speed Centre for Athletic Performance
www.southeastspeed.com.au
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