Player Watch #20 Sam Reid

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There is a lot of pyschological literature around that suggests the pain we experience at your sports teams loss significantly exceeds the high you experience at the occasional wins. So why do we follow a team then? The theory goes that it enables us to connect to a community (ie swans supporters) and allows
us an intrinsic sense of being loyal to something other than self. Have to be honest here. I think the theory is rubbish. Instead I think that our innate capacity to obsessiveness kicks in and reason is abandoned in favour of 'chasing' the high from wins at whatever cost. Because reason is abandoned in obsessiveness we revert to pyschological defences to mitigate the pain at a loss (or series of losses)- things like denial ( it's the umpires etc) or blame (Hanners is hopeless) or in this case Reid is hopeless or perhaps (horse is a pathetic coach). Scale back those defence mechanisms and you'll find Reid isn't hopeless at all- he is probably top ten on our list but uniformly there are it seems a majority of the community (that are supposed to enhance my experience of loyalty to a team) that are intent on ridiculing and rubbishing him. Why did I say I do this? That's right .....the sense of community from common loyalty lol

Blame is never a productive measure. Nothing positive flows
Small point relative to your overall post, but I disagree that Reid is top 10 on our list. He's never finished top 10 in a Skilton count and while that isn't a perfect measure because he hasn't played multiple full seasons and gets injured a lot, he has played in 20 or more games in 5 seasons and none of those resulted in a top 10 finish. So there's a pretty solid argument to say he's never finished in our 10 most impactful players over the course of one season, so how could he be top 10 more broadly?

But more to the larger point, it's a very interesting argument you raise. I think there's something to it for many supporters, not all obviously, but many. Particularly because supporting a sports team is a scenario with a lot of emotion involved and very, very little control. You don't get to pick the players, you don't get to pick the style of play, you don't get to draft in players you rate or trade out players you can't stand. So in place of control we often exert on our lives, it can help to speculate or mount cases or reasons for why a team or a player is a certain way without knowing it intimately. I do it all the time, I like to think I do it acknowledging it's my opinion and I'm making educated guesses or speculations, but when you don't get to control what's going on and it means a lot to you, it can be incredibly frustrating to support a team which is going poorly.
 

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There is a lot of pyschological literature around that suggests the pain we experience at your sports teams loss significantly exceeds the high you experience at the occasional wins. So why do we follow a team then? The theory goes that it enables us to connect to a community (ie swans supporters) and allows
us an intrinsic sense of being loyal to something other than self. Have to be honest here. I think the theory is rubbish. Instead I think that our innate capacity to obsessiveness kicks in and reason is abandoned in favour of 'chasing' the high from wins at whatever cost. Because reason is abandoned in obsessiveness we revert to pyschological defences to mitigate the pain at a loss (or series of losses)- things like denial ( it's the umpires etc) or blame (Hanners is hopeless) or in this case Reid is hopeless or perhaps (horse is a pathetic coach). Scale back those defence mechanisms and you'll find Reid isn't hopeless at all- he is probably top ten on our list but uniformly there are it seems a majority of the community (that are supposed to enhance my experience of loyalty to a team) that are intent on ridiculing and rubbishing him. Why did I say I do this? That's right .....the sense of community from common loyalty lol

Blame is never a productive measure. Nothing positive flows
Nah I just think Reid is crap and always has been.
 

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Some TV commentators suggested Reid go to defence.

Is this an option?

Do we have anyone else who can play fwd? Toby Pink or Hayden McLean?
His drafted position? That’d make too much sense for Johnny boy. Nope, he’s already ruled that out in press/media release. Sorry can’t find it but haven’t really looked either.
 

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His drafted position? That’d make too much sense for Johnny boy. Nope, he’s already ruled that out in press/media release. Sorry can’t find it but haven’t really looked either.
https://www.sydneyswans.com.au/news/2019-04-24/longmire-backs-reid-
"We'd like him to be able to take the pressure off (the other forwards) in our front half and be able to take those marks, and when we need that bail-out (kick) to be able to grab it and hit the scoreboard.
 
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Horse has been running the bail out kick along the boundary to long
*stares out wistfully into the ocean thinking of Malceski*
We miss him so much. Surprised rampe doesnt take more kick ins - has a nice turn of pace and can then send it 50m easy to clear the opposition's defensive structures

Lloyd doesnt have a big kick (or a lot of pace) hence we see this kick into the back pocket so often
 

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Why not give him a go at CHB, and I don't mean play loose down there. Actually play him CHB. Release Rampe/Allir and let him be more of a rebounder, or allow Lloyd to play further up the ground.
He just averages a goal a game, he's clearly not going to ever become a 35+ goal a season forward. So we have to try something else, since for some reason we keep deciding to offer him long term deals and seems to be immune from being dropped to the NEAFL. One of a few of these struggling players that needs a role change, but for some reason doesn't get one.
 
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