Player Watch #20 Sam Reid

[Kennedy Parker]

Sam Reid

Sam Reid

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Sam Reid

Age

34

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.4

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.4

3star

’s outstanding athleticism and strong contested grab make him a genuine threat inside 50. The 2012 premiership forward showed exactly that when he booted six goals in the Sydney Swans’ clash with Collingwood in Mark Grook at the SCG to win the 2019 Goodes-O’Loughlin Medal. The 2009 draftee can also play as a loose man in defence or pinch-hit in the ruck. Reid has had very little luck on the injury front in his time in red and white, but he didn’t miss an AFL match in 2019. He’s played 143 career games at the top level for a return of 154 goals.

Sam Reid

20

Sam Reid

Age

34

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.4

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.4

3star

DOB: 27 December 1991
DEBUT: 2010
DRAFT: #38, 2009 National Draft
RECRUITED FROM: Wangaratta Rovers (Vic)/Murray U18

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[Tedeski]

he is however all we have, so he will be picked going forward,

Yeah, that's pretty much what I said.

 

[TheMase]

The coaches have never, in 10 years, considered him one of our top 10 players for a season.

Their view, not mine.

And they also keep selecting him as soon as he is available so obviously see him as best 22.

If we are going to judge his value based on the coaches voting him into the top 10 of the best and fairest and surely we must also include the fact the coaches keep selecting him and thus clearly believe he gives some value to the team?

 

[The King!]

And they also keep selecting him as soon as he is available so obviously see him as best 22.

If we are going to judge his value based on the coaches voting him into the top 10 of the best and fairest and surely we must also include the fact the coaches keep selecting him and thus clearly believe he gives some value to the team?

Why don’t we just judge what we see?

Do we accept the coaches pick 22 players equals those 22 are good? Maybe we should

I don’t accept that myself

I think the coaches would have given Reid a fail on Thursday night , maybe I’m wrong, I think publicly they wouldn’t admit it of course

right now he’s picked regardless Because of the list

all we know is they valued him when they signed his contract for such a long high value, can’t disagree with thaT, doesn’t mean they were right

 

[brad cooper]

Why don’t we just judge what we see?

Do we accept the coaches pick 22 players equals those 22 are good? Maybe we should

I don’t accept that myself

I think the coaches would have given Reid a fail on Thursday night , maybe I’m wrong, I think publicly they wouldn’t admit it of course

right now he’s picked regardless Because of the list

all we know is they valued him when they signed his contract for such a long high value, can’t disagree with thaT, doesn’t mean they were right

Can we have the figures of Reid's contract? I can't find them, I obviously know the length of the contract but not the money involved.

 

[TheMase]

Why don’t we just judge what we see?

Do we accept the coaches pick 22 players equals those 22 are good? Maybe we should

I don’t accept that myself

I think the coaches would have given Reid a fail on Thursday night , maybe I’m wrong, I think publicly they wouldn’t admit it of course

right now he’s picked regardless Because of the list

all we know is they valued him when they signed his contract for such a long high value, can’t disagree with thaT, doesn’t mean they were right

He is picked because of what players are available, absolutely right.

People can judge what they see for sure, but saying he isn’t valuable and then using that coaches haven’t voted him as top 10 as a measure to confirm this but ignoring the fact that the same coaches keep selecting him seems a bit selective to me.

As far as Thursday night goes, I am not as sure about that. Whilst I doubt they are raging about him behind closed doors, I suspect that Reid largely plays the role that is asked of him.

He provides a target and whilst he doesn’t always mark it (you can argue rarely and that’s fine too), he conversely is rarely ever beaten in the air either. He neutralises the ball and often drops it to the advantage of our players. In fact you often see him give up on the mark (if he is out of position) and then concentrate on ensuring the players around him don’t intercept or have a major influence on the contest. There was a contest on Thursday which was a 3+1 that he could have easily lost but managed to largely neutralise that contest which was a good example.

Just a few thoughts.

 

[dosser]

Oh wow. There's a Reid thread. Why don't I come here more often?

 

[Wolfgang West]

Why don’t we just judge what we see?

Do we accept the coaches pick 22 players equals those 22 are good? Maybe we should

I don’t accept that myself

I think the coaches would have given Reid a fail on Thursday night , maybe I’m wrong, I think publicly they wouldn’t admit it of course

right now he’s picked regardless Because of the list

all we know is they valued him when they signed his contract for such a long high value, can’t disagree with thaT, doesn’t mean they were right

Don't let facts get in the way of a good argument.

Also there is an old saying. " You drink out of mugs you don't fall in to em "

People who have NFI do tend to repeat themselves with the same defence.

 

[sataris]

The King! is correct, Reid plays because we need him to

For fun, Sam Reid is on the right

Compared to the player on the left he is also

* Taller
* Younger
* Higher Draft Pick (Because this is now a goal post we have shifted to for some reason)

This board also doesn't want the player on the left because they are 'awful'.

 

[Big Blood]

He's way out of form. His experience and size mean he won't be dropped.

Having nothing better to do I compared the Reid brothers on AFL Stats Pro. Sam has got his brother (AA defender) covered for contested possessions, contested marks, tackles and pressure acts (most of the other stats not really comparable).

 

[HighReeve]

The King!

This board also doesn't want the player on the left because they are 'awful'.


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Do you disagree? From what I've seen this year thats a pretty fair call.
Also the higher draft pick stuff doesnt reflect how he was rated, it was just the rules of the time

 

[momentbymoment]

I would put him in defence.
He is brilliant back there.
He is a natural defender.
He was a defender as a kid.

And ... he cant kick straight.
What’s the point of making a spectacular mark in the forward 50 when you inevitably miss the goals?

 

[sthmelb_dimmies]

He's way out of form. His experience and size mean he won't be dropped.

Having nothing better to do I compared the Reid brothers on AFL Stats Pro. Sam has got his brother (AA defender) covered for contested possessions, contested marks, tackles and pressure acts (most of the other stats not really comparable).

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Why would you stats compare a forward to a back?

 

[TheMase]

And ... he cant kick straight.
What’s the point of making a spectacular mark in the forward 50 when you inevitably miss the goals?

He has some shockers for sure, but statistically, this is a bit of a myth.

He kicks at around 64% since 2017 (and 62% since 2012) which is higher than both Buddy (58%) and Papley (59%).

 

[Wolfgang West]

I would put him in defence.
He is brilliant back there.
He is a natural defender.
He was a defender as a kid.

And ... he cant kick straight.
What’s the point of making a spectacular mark in the forward 50 when you inevitably miss the goals?

As a spare man. When was the last time you seen him play brilliantly as a defender ? The last time you seen him play as a defender accountable for an opponent ? The last time you seen him play as defender for more than 6 or 7 minutes of a quarter ? Reid's run his race.

 

[Nool Carpenna]

*saw*,*saw* and *saw*

 

[Millky95]

Reid isn't part of our next flag but right now there is no one else pushing him out of his spot in the side. Until McCartin or McLean (assuming Buddy is playing or both for when he isn't) can consistently, statistically out perform and out train Reid, it is a moot point

 

[momentbymoment]

As a spare man. When was the last time you seen him play brilliantly as a defender ? The last time you seen him play as a defender accountable for an opponent ? The last time you seen him play as defender for more than 6 or 7 minutes of a quarter ? Reid's run his race.

Ok ...
Maybe ‘brilliant’ was hyperbole but he is good. Marks well, spoils well and is mobile on the ground.

I would put Reid back and Dawson (who can kick goals) forward.

 

[Wolfgang West]

Ok ...
Maybe ‘brilliant’ was hyperbole but he is good. Marks well, spoils well and is mobile on the ground.

I would put Reid back and Dawson (who can kick goals) forward.

Watch a replay of last Thursday night and watch his attempts at picking the ball up from ground level. His lower back is shot imo. Coming from experience.

 

[Corpuscles]

LOL!

Reid is playing, you lot are not! Most obviously you were NEVER capable of anything but criticism?
The coaches and club put him there.
LoLz, but none of you lot?


The best available tall will take that spot , EVERY TIME!
Trust me or Not!? .. but you shirley know that is the FACTS!~


Go Sam Reid , good team game last week!
(See I am pretending my post/ opinion matters)

 

[The King!]

LOL!

Reid is playing, you lot are not! Most obviously you were NEVER capable of anything but criticism?
The coaches and club put him there.
LoLz, but none of you lot?


The best available tall will take that spot , EVERY TIME!
Trust me or Not!? .. but you shirley know that is the FACTS!~


Go Sam Reid , good team game last week!
(See I am pretending my post/ opinion matters)

If that’s all true there’s no need for you or anyone else to defend him at all then


Perhaps it’s just rubbish , like Reid’s football performance

 

[Tedeski]

Wonder if Reid is playing this week.

 

[Kapers]

He has some shockers for sure, but statistically, this is a bit of a myth.

He kicks at around 64% since 2017 (and 62% since 2012) which is higher than both Buddy (58%) and Papley (59%).

But it's more of 'those moments'.

Not saying he isn't accurate, but Buddy tended to kick them in those moments when we needed him to, Reid just does it when he can.

I think the degree of difficulty in the kicks need to be taken into consideration as well, Buddy's range meant that he has had many more shots than any other current player, meaning that his accuracy is kinda secondary since he can still kick goals from way up the ground.

Papley has had a shocker the last few weeks, can't defend his accuracy.

 

[TheMase]

But it's more of 'those moments'.

Not saying he isn't accurate, but Buddy tended to kick them in those moments when we needed him to, Reid just does it when he can.

I think the degree of difficulty in the kicks need to be taken into consideration as well, Buddy's range meant that he has had many more shots than any other current player, meaning that his accuracy is kinda secondary since he can still kick goals from way up the ground.

Papley has had a shocker the last few weeks, can't defend his accuracy.

I personally think it’s mainly that when Reid shanks it, he really makes an absolute meal of it so we remember it so well.

Buddy kicks the clutch goals because well, Reid just doesn’t hold a candle to him as a footballer, something that nobody will question.

I certainly wasn’t comparing Reid directly with those players (there is no comparison), just that he isn’t actually a bad kick at goal usually... he just has some absolute howlers sometimes that are hard to forget.

(And I am not counting that wtf around the body kick he did recently - that was a brain fade of the highest order!).

Papleys accuracy this year is pretty much in line with his career average.

 

[Wolfgang West]

Wonder if Reid is playing this week.
[/QUOTE]

Witches hats are for training purposes only Ted.

 

[Kummerspeck]

This board also doesn't want the player on the left because they are 'awful'.

I did a quick search and didn't find much pissing on Walker as a player, nor many saying Reid was better. Bit of a reach.