Player Watch #20 Sam Reid

[Kennedy Parker]

Sam Reid

Sam Reid

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Sam Reid

Age

34

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.4

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.4

3star

’s outstanding athleticism and strong contested grab make him a genuine threat inside 50. The 2012 premiership forward showed exactly that when he booted six goals in the Sydney Swans’ clash with Collingwood in Mark Grook at the SCG to win the 2019 Goodes-O’Loughlin Medal. The 2009 draftee can also play as a loose man in defence or pinch-hit in the ruck. Reid has had very little luck on the injury front in his time in red and white, but he didn’t miss an AFL match in 2019. He’s played 143 career games at the top level for a return of 154 goals.

Sam Reid

20

Sam Reid

Age

34

Ht

196cm

Wt

96kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

11.3

3star

K

6.3

2star

HB

5.0

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

2.2

4star

G

1.1

4star

D

12.0

3star

K

6.0

2star

HB

6.0

3star

M

4.0

4star

T

0.0

1star

G

1.0

4star

D

9.4

3star

K

5.4

2star

HB

4.0

3star

M

4.4

4star

T

1.8

4star

G

0.4

3star

DOB: 27 December 1991
DEBUT: 2010
DRAFT: #38, 2009 National Draft
RECRUITED FROM: Wangaratta Rovers (Vic)/Murray U18

Sam Reid | AFL

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[Banyo Bloods]

Which games? Serious question

Majority of last year when he started to do pressure acts, chasing, bumping in the packs. 1%ers stuff that prior to last year I hadn’t seen from Sam. To me that was him turning the corner.

 

[GoTheSwannies]

Reid is an interesting case. There are 2 differing opinions in this thread, and both are accurate.

When Reid has been able to gain some consistency he has been able to provide some x factor to the side with his ability to pluck marks on the wing and f50, as well as his ability to go back and do the same. He gives us something none of his replacements are able to.

However, due to injury, he hasn't been able to get that consistency in his game.

It all comes down to whether his body holds up, and that's anyone's guess. His history suggests he'll only show glimpses in patches where he's able to get onto the field, which doesn't fill me with confidence.

In saying that, it seems like Ben's been able to string some games together, so perhaps their genetics mean they need to mature a little longer before their bodies hold up to the rigors of aussue rules.

With that said, it would be a huge gamble taking him into finals underdone. So not sure whether it's be worth the risk, I don't really think he has the runs on the board to come straight back in. However, his assets may account for his lack of match fitness.

Interesting question going into finals. My guts says he'll be wrapped in cotton wool until 2017. Which is a real shame because this year's flag is there for the taking, and I'd put us behind only hawthorn, with perhaps the crows very close.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Was LRT a vital cog in 2012? I would say unquestionably yes.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...&pid2=379&fid1=P&fopt1=2015&fid2=P&fopt2=2012

 

[CD__]

Reid a gun lols

Seriously like saying white was a gun when he played for us

He is no better than Jessie

Sam Reid >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> daylight >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jesse White.

And I was also a big fan of Jesse.

 

[CD__]

Was LRT a vital cog in 2012? I would say unquestionably yes.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...&pid2=379&fid1=P&fopt1=2015&fid2=P&fopt2=2012

When I reminisce about his tackle on Hodge it makes me tingle in the pants.

 

[Mick Oxlong]

The Reid bashers are probably the same guys that think McVeigh is no good

No, I like Reid!

 

[Grongey]

Reid is an interesting case. There are 2 differing opinions in this thread, and both are accurate.

When Reid has been able to gain some consistency he has been able to provide some x factor to the side with his ability to pluck marks on the wing and f50, as well as his ability to go back and do the same. He gives us something none of his replacements are able to.

However, due to injury, he hasn't been able to get that consistency in his game.

It all comes down to whether his body holds up, and that's anyone's guess. His history suggests he'll only show glimpses in patches where he's able to get onto the field, which doesn't fill me with confidence.

In saying that, it seems like Ben's been able to string some games together, so perhaps their genetics mean they need to mature a little longer before their bodies hold up to the rigors of aussue rules.

With that said, it would be a huge gamble taking him into finals underdone. So not sure whether it's be worth the risk, I don't really think he has the runs on the board to come straight back in. However, his assets may account for his lack of match fitness.

Interesting question going into finals. My guts says he'll be wrapped in cotton wool until 2017. Which is a real shame because this year's flag is there for the taking, and I'd put us behind only hawthorn, with perhaps the crows very close.

A good summary. Someone like Waite or even Casboult at Carlton is an equivalent. You can't live on potential forever. Players have to put it on the park on a consistent basis. It's getting too late to play him in 2016.

To be honest I wouldn't be disappointed if he went up as trade bait, although he's on a long contract.

 

[RW]

I'm normally pretty positive about our players but it's telling that we haven't missed him much while he's been out. I hope he proves me and his other doubters wrong but at this stage it doesn't look likely.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

A good summary. Someone like Waite or even Casboult at Carlton is an equivalent. You can't live on potential forever. Players have to put it on the park on a consistent basis. It's getting too late to play him in 2016.

To be honest I wouldn't be disappointed if he went up as trade bait, although he's on a long contract.

His contract expires at the end of next year.

 

[GoTheSwannies]

I'm normally pretty positive about our players but it's telling that we haven't missed him much while he's been out. I hope he proves me and his other doubters wrong but at this stage it doesn't look likely.

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with that statement.

It's hard to quantify how much we've missed Reid. Yes, we're winning and sitting in the top 4. But would Reid have been the difference in any of those close matches? Whether it be adding another avenue to goal or going back to pluck a mark in our defensive 50. Would our opponents be so willing to bomb the ball into their f50 if we have a roaming Reid going back as a lose man cutting off their attack?

When tippet was playing a majority in the ruck and buddy was contending with 3 opponents would another tall target with the ability to take marks have stretched their defence. Putting smalls at both buddy's AND reids feet to mop up their spills rather than constantly going to a mismatch because buddy has been our only effective tall target.

Having buddy AND Reid up there means the resting Ruckman becomes a dangerous 3rd target rather than an ineffective decoy that the opposition can almost disregard.

I recall horse using Reid as our main target while having buddy play decoy. The defence was caught off guard thinking we'd funnel the ball to buddy. You do it a couple of times and keep the defence honest and buddy has an opportunity to work his magic.

Right now we're using a Ferrari to tow a tailor. We need the porsche back on the road to take some of the load.

 

[McRobie]

I rate Reid....the flack he cops is idiotic....the bloke has never had a decent go if it with injuries and when he has put games together he had produced some great performances.

 

[bungwahl]

I'm normally pretty positive about our players but it's telling that we haven't missed him much while he's been out. I hope he proves me and his other doubters wrong but at this stage it doesn't look likely.

I actually think we've missed him a lot. We've lost 4 games we were in a position to have won (and got smacked in 1 other), and for the majority of the season we've done that with a 1 man forward line. We played Ted Richards as a forward against Hawthorn..

I can't help but think how much easier we would have found it to get out of defensive 50 this year if we had a second marking target other than Tippett. Heeney and Rohan have done well to take some of that load, but they're undersized against opposition talls. Hopefully once Tippett returns we can have Naismith providing that outlet.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

I think it's not unreasonable to say that Reid makes us a 1-2 goal better side.

That would have us sitting on a single loss away to GWS.

 

[RW]

I actually think we've missed him a lot. We've lost 4 games we were in a position to have won (and got smacked in 1 other), and for the majority of the season we've done that with a 1 man forward line. We played Ted Richards as a forward against Hawthorn..

I can't help but think how much easier we would have found it to get out of defensive 50 this year if we had a second marking target other than Tippett. Heeney and Rohan have done well to take some of that load, but they're undersized against opposition talls. Hopefully once Tippett returns we can have Naismith providing that outlet.

Yeah, but I'm saying that we still should have won those games even without him.

Don't get me wrong, a fit Reid would be nice to have, but even an optimist like me would admit that we're probably going to have to let that dream die for 2016. Feel free to disagree.

 

[melbournehammer]

I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with that statement.

It's hard to quantify how much we've missed Reid. Yes, we're winning and sitting in the top 4. But would Reid have been the difference in any of those close matches? Whether it be adding another avenue to goal or going back to pluck a mark in our defensive 50. Would our opponents be so willing to bomb the ball into their f50 if we have a roaming Reid going back as a lose man cutting off their attack?

When tippet was playing a majority in the ruck and buddy was contending with 3 opponents would another tall target with the ability to take marks have stretched their defence. Putting smalls at both buddy's AND reids feet to mop up their spills rather than constantly going to a mismatch because buddy has been our only effective tall target.

Having buddy AND Reid up there means the resting Ruckman becomes a dangerous 3rd target rather than an ineffective decoy that the opposition can almost disregard.

I recall horse using Reid as our main target while having buddy play decoy. The defence was caught off guard thinking we'd funnel the ball to buddy. You do it a couple of times and keep the defence honest and buddy has an opportunity to work his magic.

Right now we're using a Ferrari to tow a tailor. We need the porsche back on the road to take some of the load.

This thing about reid plucking a mark in teh defensive fifty. this has happened once iirc. sure it was a big once but thats it. On other occasions he has been played as a loose man in defence (most notably against the hawks on a couple of occasions) and he has got lost as the ball has been in flight. He also has a horrible tendency to butcher his field kicking

i really really like reid but he is and has been all potential for us and has so rarely delivered (all sizzle and no steak). A couple of contested marks a game and a few goals per season for a guy with his potential is really just not cutting it. buddy and tippett both came and he was getting second and third defenders and either we didnt kick it to him or he didnt deliver.

we all know that he may yet turn out to be the 40-50 goal second forward, 2-3 contested mark second or third tall but for a range of reasons he has never even got close.

 

[bungwahl]

Yeah, but I'm saying that we still should have won those games even without him.

Don't get me wrong, a fit Reid would be nice to have, but even an optimist like me would admit that we're probably going to have to let that dream die for 2016. Feel free to disagree.

I agree with that - Reid or no Reid, we were in a position to win those games and we blew it.

Pretty sure you're right about 2016 too. Barring a miracle I think we could be starting our first final with Xavier Richards at full forward. Who'd have thought that before this season started?? A lot hinges on Tippett's return!

 

[bungwahl]

He also has a horrible tendency to butcher his field kicking

His field kicking and kicking on the run is usually quite good. His set shots... not so much!

 

[melbournehammer]

I agree that his kicking on the run is good - but kicking from a mark regardless of at goal or to a player is poor - he just doesnt make good contact. If i could be bothered i could show you footage after footage of him missing targets, shanking passes and sometimes dribbling kicks altogether.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Reid a gun lols

Seriously like saying white was a gun when he played for us

He is no better than Jessie

Reid is a Premiership key forward.

 

[melbournehammer]

Reid is a Premiership key forward.

But what does that mean ? So was Cameron Mooney in 1999 with donuts.

The issue is really whether Sam Reid has delivered what he might have. He has been a serviceable player. IS that really all he could be ? Jesse has been a serviceable player too.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

But what does that mean ? So was Cameron Mooney in 1999 with donuts.

The issue is really whether Sam Reid has delivered what he might have. He has been a serviceable player. IS that really all he could be ? Jesse has been a serviceable player too.

Well it means quite a lot. Reid was our only key forward in 2012. Beyond that, I've described his value in earlier posts and don't intend to do so again. I guarantee you that if he is fit for the finals, he will be playing finals. That is because the match committee have moved on from measuring key position players against the mark/kick benchmarks of Royce Hart.

 

[sataris]

Needs to start delivering. All those banging on about premiership forward.

It was 4 years ago.

 

[BruceFromBalnarring]

Needs to start delivering. All those banging on about premiership forward.

It was 4 years ago.

That was in rebuttal to Reid being no better than White.

 

[swansfan51]

That was in rebuttal to Reid being no better than White.

Premierships are not the measure of a player. They're a function of timing and luck, being at the right club at the right time while being of AFL standard.

Even the greatest forward in history, Gary Ablett Snr, can't win a premiership on his own. It makes him no less of a player, just as Mooney is no better for having been at the same club at a better time.

 

[Mick Oxlong]

Premierships are not the measure of a player. They're a function of timing and luck, being at the right club at the right time while being of AFL standard.

Even the greatest forward in history, Gary Ablett Snr, can't win a premiership on his own. It makes him no less of a player, just as Mooney is no better for having been at the same club at a better time.

Gary Ablett Snr...one Tony Lockett says 'hi'! Your point is spot on though!