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Player Watch #20 Sam Reid

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Sam Reid

Sam Reid’s outstanding athleticism and strong contested grab make him a genuine threat inside 50. The 2012 premiership forward showed exactly that when he booted six goals in the Sydney Swans’ clash with Collingwood in Mark Grook at the SCG to win the 2019 Goodes-O’Loughlin Medal. The 2009 draftee can also play as a loose man in defence or pinch-hit in the ruck. Reid has had very little luck on the injury front in his time in red and white, but he didn’t miss an AFL match in 2019. He’s played 143 career games at the top level for a return of 154 goals.

Sam Reid
DOB: 27 December 1991
DEBUT: 2010
DRAFT: #38, 2009 National Draft
RECRUITED FROM: Wangaratta Rovers (Vic)/Murray U18

 
Who cares what his brother is?

Reid needs to be a long term forward for us because it's a massive hole in the team. I've said before it might be a case of one step backwards, two step forwards for Reid this year. I don't have an issue with dropping him to regain confidence. Strongly against playing him in defence though because our defence is fine in comparison to the forward line.
 
Well he's not doing a single thing forward, so it must be the 2's for him..

Come on man, he has an all australian backman brother, time to make a change. He wont be double teamed down back, who said his ideal position is forward.. he has proved time after time he cant kick straight, people have whinged that he gets double teamed. make the change, or keep going thru ground hog day til he plays the gold coast or gws again..

His best asset is his marking, well that sounds like another dunkley/bolton chb to me... but hey keep him forward by all means


Right, so he would be default be a good backman?

I think that is a ridiculous suggestion as well. Our defence is the shining light for us ATM, there is NO point moving Reid there, especially when his confidence is down - that will just COST us goals instead of no scoring being done at all.

He isn't going to learn until he gets experience at AFL level in the forward line as long-term he ISN'T going to be anything but that, so why drop him to the 2s when we have no one better to replace him with? I'm not for dropping Reid to the 2s, but we NEED a White or a Pyke alongside him otherwise it's unfair to have him cop all the workload.
 

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To be honest, I think he'd perform better as a backman than as a forward right now as well. But, there's no need to unsettle our defence in order to accommodate that move. The only possible way it could work would be to swap him and Grundy. Grundy actually looked fairly decent up forward yesterday I thought, and he's quite a good set shot. He also won't demand the same attention that Reid does, allowing him more space. Our forwardline could be dangerous by virtue of anonymity. Reid is quick, a good tackler and a low (sometimes too low!), penetrating field kick. He has also played a game in defence and was very good, and has done it as ressies level too. He'd get his hands on the ball more, and it may be the confidence boost he needs to attack next year, or even later this year, with a bit more success than he's currently having. It wouldn't be a long-term option, but if our forwardline continues to fail, it's certainly a move worth considering.

ZOMG I'm agreeing with reidfactor! :eek: :p

I should clarify that I'm not suggesting he move back because of his bro, just because I've seen him do it, his natural attributes suit back almost as much as forward, even when forward and in terrible form, he almost never loses a contest outright, and I think it would help his confidence.
 
Any rational person would see Reid is in need of change, but most of you so called experts would prefer he keeps getting double teamed and pumelled for the sake of it.

He would blossom in defence, get his confidence up, lose the pressure he faces kicking goals.. how did tarrant go when moved down back.

playing reid in the 2's is a waste of time, its a junk league.. But doing the same thing over and over is ridiculous. its insane.

love how the gang came out of the cracks in the wall to shoot me down once again, but hey you all know best.

vonn you going to watch the whole game this week, or walk away when the going gets tough again, lol!!
 
Any rational person would see Reid is in need of change, but most of you so called experts would prefer he keeps getting double teamed and pumelled for the sake of it.

He would blossom in defence, get his confidence up, lose the pressure he faces kicking goals.. how did tarrant go when moved down back.

playing reid in the 2's is a waste of time, its a junk league.. But doing the same thing over and over is ridiculous. its insane.

love how the gang came out of the cracks in the wall to shoot me down once again, but hey you all know best.

vonn you going to watch the whole game this week, or walk away when the going gets tough again, lol!!

Everyone keeps saying that the Ressies are a junk league, but so what?? His issue is not form per se, it's confidence! He needs to go back to a league with less pressure to practice his goal kicking and to get his confidence back up. So what if it's against teenybops from Sydney Uni? Kicking for goal has no difference whether Scarlett is manning the mark or Pimply Teen #30.
 
vonn you going to watch the whole game this week, or walk away when the going gets tough again, lol!!

Um, my apologies I'm a full-time student actually doing a degree at a credible Uni. Not going to put up with that shit when I have an essay due on Monday. It's called priorities.

& BTW, how precious are you. I didn't abuse you in any way, all I did was reply with a well-reasoned argument. If you can't hack differences in opinion, don't post. It's that easy.
 
When gordon and morton can both kick 10 in a game, its a joke.. its only good for players returning from injury, and the likes of mitchell to develope more.
 
Um, my apologies I'm a full-time student actually doing a degree at a credible Uni. Not going to put up with that shit when I have an essay due on Monday. It's called priorities.

& BTW, how precious are you. I didn't abuse you in any way, all I did was reply with a well-reasoned argument. If you can't hack differences in opinion, don't post. It's that easy.


Who gives a crap what you do, i dont.

You have shown how fickle you are to the true supporters.. We have melbourne this week, it should allow you to stay tuned the whole 2 hours..

you going to pick melbourne?
 
When gordon and morton can both kick 10 in a game, its a joke.. its only good for players returning from injury, and the likes of mitchell to develope more.

Like I said, so what?? He needs goal kicking practice! Needs a break from the pressure of the seniors.
 

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Who gives a crap what you do, i dont.

You have shown how fickle you are to the true supporters.. We have melbourne this week, it should allow you to stay tuned the whole 2 hours..

you going to pick melbourne?

*3 hours.

I'm working all day, as I do every Saturday. Does that make me a fickle supporter? I'll do what I did this week and tape the game and watch it after the fact. What does it matter?
 
Who gives a crap what you do, i dont.

You have shown how fickle you are to the true supporters.. We have melbourne this week, it should allow you to stay tuned the whole 2 hours..

you going to pick melbourne?

People would take you a lot more seriously if you cut out the personal abuse. There's actually an argument to be made for sending Reid back, but rather than argue it, you're preventing any decent discussion from happening by instead focusing on Vonn's watching habits (which, btw, are totally irrelevant to how big a supporter she is; lots of rampant supporters, Swans or otherwise, simply can't watch their team play live because it's too painful).

You actually don't have a bad footy brain, and you could be a good poster, but you refuse to actually justify and discuss your position, and interpret every disagreement as a personal attack. That's simply not how football forums work.
 
Who gives a crap what you do, i dont.

You have shown how fickle you are to the true supporters.. We have melbourne this week, it should allow you to stay tuned the whole 2 hours..

you going to pick melbourne?

Oh I see how the concept of having an actual life that goes somewhere eludes you seeing as you sit on your ass all day with your mouth agape in horror as posters allegedly victimize you and your lovechild but some of us actually have other priorities that doesn't allow them to do nothing for three hours and troll for the remaining twenty one hours.
 
People would take you a lot more seriously if you cut out the personal abuse. There's actually an argument to be made for sending Reid back, but rather than argue it, you're preventing any decent discussion from happening by instead focusing on Vonn's watching habits (which, btw, are totally irrelevant to how big a supporter she is; lots of rampant supporters, Swans or otherwise, simply can't watch their team play live because it's too painful).

You actually don't have a bad footy brain, and you could be a good poster, but you refuse to actually justify and discuss your position, and interpret every disagreement as a personal attack. That's simply not how football forums work.


you are kidding... i have justified my position regarding what to do with reid numerous times..

but you all know better, its the boys club on here, all know better then a mug newbie like myself..

love how our defence is going so great, thats why grundy got moved and the past 2 weeks we have been slaughtered in defence... the defence of 05-06 hardly ever conceded more then 70 points a game. they all look as nervous as hell down there.. why not bring lrt back this week, another nervous nellie..

Reid is better suited down back, doesnt have to worry about his 2 major problems are, as i've stated double teaming and pressure of kicking goals. i have no doubt he would star in the 2's, theres no pressure at all.. that wont help him longterm.. a new role, a new challenge, that may help thou..
 
Oh I see how the concept of having an actual life that goes somewhere eludes you seeing as you sit on your ass all day with your mouth agape in horror as posters allegedly victimize you and your lovechild but some of us actually have other priorities that doesn't allow them to do nothing for three hours and troll for the remaining twenty one hours.

touchy touchy, just pointing out that its very fickle to watch when the team is winning only.. that was what got the hatred for me going weeks back, when i questioned the sydney based supporters.. you just confirmed my opinion thats all..

i understand that when losing there are better things to do.. but for someone who has such an opinion, you need to be watching all of the games vonn... not half...

good luck with your assignment at this credible uni..
 
touchy touchy, just pointing out that its very fickle to watch when the team is winning only.. that was what got the hatred for me going weeks back, when i questioned the sydney based supporters.. you just confirmed my opinion thats all..

i understand that when losing there are better things to do.. but for someone who has such an opinion, you need to be watching all of the games vonn... not half...

good luck with your assignment at this credible uni..

Don't give me your condescending, Confucius crap. I turn games off when we're winning too if I have something due. Save it.
 

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Don't give me your condescending, Confucius crap. I turn games off when we're winning too if I have something due. Save it.

sounds like you have time management issues.. there's 24 hours in a day, must be a massive assignment.. anyways, dont let a mug like me stop you from conquering the world..

:eek:
 
you are kidding... i have justified my position regarding what to do with reid numerous times..

but you all know better, its the boys club on here, all know better then a mug newbie like myself..

love how our defence is going so great, thats why grundy got moved and the past 2 weeks we have been slaughtered in defence... the defence of 05-06 hardly ever conceded more then 70 points a game. they all look as nervous as hell down there.. why not bring lrt back this week, another nervous nellie..

Reid is better suited down back, doesnt have to worry about his 2 major problems are, as i've stated double teaming and pressure of kicking goals. i have no doubt he would star in the 2's, theres no pressure at all.. that wont help him longterm.. a new role, a new challenge, that may help thou..

You haven't justified it at all. You state your opinion, give a couple of preliminary reasons, which is good, but as soon as somebody mounts a counter-argument, you get personal. What you should be doing is addressing the points of the counter-argument.

Also, lol at this being a boys club. There is a huge diversity of opinion on the value of the likes of Mattner, Grundy, McVeigh, White, Everitt, TDL, LRT and a number of others. There is often healthy discussion about the value of these players. People don't criticise you for your opinions, they criticise you for how you present them and how you interact with other posters.
 
putting aside some of the nonsense going on here we all had conflicting reports about Reid during the week. He's not training he is training. Well he couldn't lift his intensity yesterday. All he could do was float around and any contact took it's toll. He couldnt get up the field because there is no real run in his body at the moment.

It's pretty clear where his training is at and it's starting to impact on the field. He's good but he hasn't built the tank to play with time off training like O'Keefe or Bolton. If it's not fitness than his form is bad. He needs to miss a couple. Shit timing with Goodes out but he's offering nothing.
 
You haven't justified it at all. You state your opinion, give a couple of preliminary reasons, which is good, but as soon as somebody mounts a counter-argument, you get personal. What you should be doing is addressing the points of the counter-argument.

Also, lol at this being a boys club. There is a huge diversity of opinion on the value of the likes of Mattner, Grundy, McVeigh, White, Everitt, TDL, LRT and a number of others. There is often healthy discussion about the value of these players. People don't criticise you for your opinions, they criticise you for how you present them and how you interact with other posters.

How can anyone counter argue my opinion on reid, the stats dont lie, the guy cant get a kick, take a mark, or kick a goal.. how can he continue to play this same role when he's having no impact.

With goodes out, he cant be dropped, but he can be transformed somewhere else, surely someone like scottwade must agree, someone with a clue.. scott give me a reason why reid cant be moved down back to eliminate the double team.. and dont say we need him to just compete for the crumbers...

Hows this, Ben reid started his career forward as well, but had a similar goal kicking problem to sam.. so he went down back and won all australian.. you guys need to think out of the circle your going around in.. i know playing him somewhere different is surely a better option then dropping him to the worst comp in australia... this is my opinion.. stop killing him when theres another solution..
 
With goodes out, he cant be dropped, but he can be transformed somewhere else,

.

How does that theory work. With Goodes out he cant be dropped because he's needed to cover Goodes but saying that he'll play somewhere Goodes does not and take the spot of someone who does it better than Reid does?

If Reid cant be dropped why Goodes is out than he's anchored at FF.
 
I'm sorry, we all love Sam, but he is not performing anywhere near to potential. I'm over those who say he's only 20, give him a go. How many games will we carry an out of form (for 7 weeks now) player? Right now he is a consistent passenger. Something has to be done. Sure he is only 20, but how is leaving him in our best 22, losing confidence week after week, any help to him. Whatever it is we are doing with him, it isn't working.
 

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