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Review 2001 Draft

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Pick No. 11: Richard Cole (Eastern U18)
What the papers said: “Extremely quick and long-kicking midfielder originally from Tennant Creek in the Northern Territory. All-Australian at U18 level in 2000 but had an injury-interrupted season in 2001,” – The Age.

What the recruiters said: “Richard is a left-footer who has excellent pace and is an extremely powerful runner with a very strong kick. He has nice evasion skills and a good strong body. He plays mainly as a wingman or a half back flanker, but could eventually play in the midfield,” – Noel Judkins.

Career Span: 2002-2007 (2002-2005 Collingwood, 2006-2007 Essendon)
Debut: Round 1 2002 v Richmond at the MCG
Career Games: 63 (56 Collingwood, 7 Essendon)
Career Goals: 6 (6 Collingwood, 7 Essendon)

Legacy: Cole broke into the senior side in the opening round of 2002 but became a fixture midway through the following season when he went on to earn a Rising Star nomination and play a key role in finals victories over Brisbane and Port Adelaide. A quiet Grand Final in the 50-point mauling at the hands of the Lions was cast aside when he put together a fine campaign in 2004, running sixth in the Copeland Trophy. Sadly, it would mark the peak of Cole’s career, for he spluttered through 2005 and sought a trade to Windy Hill where he would manage just seven games in two years.

Pick No. 27: Tom Davidson (Geelong U18)
What the papers said: “Mobile, strong-marking forward who is a long kick. Won Harrison Medal as best and fairest in division two of AFL U18s, representing his state of origin, Tasmania,” – The Age.

What the recruiters said: “He is a rangy sort of kid who has terrific speed for his size, is very strong in the air and has excellent skills on either side of his body and a very accurate kick for goal. Tom played mainly in the forward line for the Falcons, but we see him as a flanker, a winger or eventually a running backline player,” – Noel Judkins.

Career Span: 2002-2006 (2002-2005 Collingwood, 2006 Western Bulldogs)
Debut: Round 2 2004 v Western Bulldogs at the MCG
Career Games: 1 (1 Collingwood, 0 Western Bulldogs)
Career Goals: 0 (0 Collingwood, 0 Western Bulldogs)

Legacy: Knee injuries ruined any chance Davidson had of carving out the career he and the Magpies had hoped for. He underwent two knee reconstructions, the first in the pre-season of 2003 and again in 2004 after rupturing his anterior cruciate ligament on debut against the Bulldogs. He was added to the club’s rookie list in 2005 and spent twelve months in the same position at the Whitten Oval but never managed to add to his sole outing at the MCG in 2004.

Pick No. 43: Mark McGough (Murray U18)
What the papers said: “High-possession midfielder or defender. Strong in one-on-one situations and above his head. All Australian at U18 level this year,” – The Age.

What the recruiters said: “Mark is a solidly built on-baller who will go in and get the ball in packs. He is very strong, has excellent hands and is a good overhead mark. While he is not an extremely quick player, Mark is very strong over the ball. We expect him to be a midfielder who gets the ball at stoppages and at the base of packs,” – Noel Judkins.

Career Span: 2002-2006 (2002-2004 Collingwood, 2005-2006 St Kilda)
Debut: Round 4 2002 v Hawthorn at the MCG
Career Games: 49 (37 Collingwood, 12 St Kilda)
Career Goals: 14 (12 Collingwood, 2 St Kilda)

Legacy: Few players have packed so much into just 49 senior games. Sure, the likes of John Coleman, Adrian McAdam and Allen Jakovich played more eye-catching football in their short stays at the elite level, but for a man who played less than 50 games, McGough’s career will linger long in the memory. He debuted while still studying his VCE and won the ANZAC Day Medal in just his second senior game. He would poll eight Brownlow votes in his first year but was never able to maintain the magic, despite pulling in some huge disposal numbers early in 2004. Delisted at the end of 2004, McGough spent two years under Grant Thomas at St Kilda. He is still plying his trade with East Fremantle in the WAFL. Curiously, although he was a key player in Collingwood’s Grand Final years of 2002 and 2003, he never played a final.

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Tarkyn Lockyer congratulates 17-year-old Mark McGough on winning the ANZAC Day Medal in his just second game, in round five, 2002.

Pick No. 58: Dane Swan (Calder U18)
What the papers said: “Son of Bill, 300-game VFA player for Port Melbourne and Williamstown. Forward pocket/half forward who kicked five goals in a final this year. Nice balance,” – The Age.

What the recruiters said: “Dane improved immensely last year, going from being a fringe player with the Cannons earlier in the season to one of their best players in the latter part of the year. In the semi-final he kicked five goals from the half forward flank and in the Grand Final, which they won, he kicked three goals and had 29 possessions. Dane is a very good crumber, with a smart football brain and is a very good mark overhead. Although not exceptionally quick, he is a real footballer,” – Noel Judkins.

Career Span: 2002-2015
Debut: Round 13 2003 v Western Bulldogs at Docklands
Career Games: 246
Career Goals: 201

Legacy: What can you say? Swan represents one of football's most remarkable rags to riches stories in many years. After struggling to find his feet in his first four seasons, Swan made incredible improvement to the point where he became the 2011 Brownlow Medalist, and earned the label of 'untaggable' from many commentators. A strongly built midfielder who is dangerous if released to half forward, Swan's unique ability to repeatedly out-sprint his opponents, allowing him to power from contest to contest, has made him Collingwood's most consistent player of the past decade seasons. In 2015, he is one of the most recognisable and well-loved players – not only at Collingwood but throughout the entire competition.

Pick No. 72: Tristen Walker
What the papers said: “Key position player/ruckman described as a strong "power player". Can play at both ends and is very quick for his size,” – The Age.

What the recruiters said: “Tristen (not related to Lee) has played most of his football in the ruck or at centre half forward, but we think he may be better suited to centre half back or full back. Very quick and strongly built, with a good presence about him, Tristen is a left footer and has neat skills for a big fellow,” – Noel Judkins.

Career Span: 2002-2006
Debut: Round 1 2003 v Richmond at the MCG
Career Games: 28
Career Goals: 8

Legacy: Big ‘Tex’ debuted on Matthew Richardson in the opening round of 2003, riding the bumps as Richardson kicked 1.6 for the night. He returned to favour late in the year, playing in both the Qualifying and Grand Finals against the Lions. Walker went on to show flashes of promise at different stages of the course of the next two years but was never able to find the consistency he and the club so desired.
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Looking back it was not a Great Draft.

Swanny came a Gun. Cole started well but did not last long.

Davidson was always Injured

McGough the 1 game wonder. Too Slow

Tristan Walker was very Athletic but no Footy Brain

http://www.collingwoodfc.com.au/news/2015-06-09/this-we-believe-would-be-a-super-draft
 
Pick 11 - Cole
We could have had
Nick Dal Santo
James Kelly
Stevie J

Pick 27 - Tom Davidson
Sam Mitchell
Leigh Montagna

Pick 43 - Mark McGough
Medhurst a few years earlier

Pick 58 - Dane Swan
Would never ever ever change :D

Pick 72 - Tristen Walker
Brian Lake went 1 pick earlier

Rookie Draft Pick 8 - JPod
We probably should have developed JPod better perhaps.
Otherwise Qstick went at 18, and we would have had him during his peak rather than at the end.
Matthew Boyd at 23

Rookie Draft Pick 24 - Justin Crow
Justin had a short career but he was one of the runners during the 2010 grand final (see him in the yellow next to MM when the siren goes). Plus I know him and he is a good bloke, so happy to keep this one :P
Aaron Sandilands went at 33


I'm sure there are other could have been picks, that's just at a quick glance. Changes nothing, but I always find the sliding doors thing interesting. Imagine if we walked away from that draft with Stevie J + Mitchell + Swan + Brian Lake + Sandilands.
 
Davidson - his opening against the Cats when he marked everything in sight...I thought we had a future champion - to this day I still do. Can't believe what injuries did to this guy.

Slow or not, my personal belief is the McGough should have played in the GF 2002

Cole - well, you don't get all picks right.
Perhaps he was the best at puck at 11 but other factors came in to play. Yes Dal, Stevie J or Kelly would have been good.
Trouble w looking at things like this is that the future changes as well so perhaps w these guy we would have won more games in 05 and therefore missed out on Pendles.
 
Thank goodness for Dane Swan, because given there were a huge amount of great players in the draft, would have hurt to get nothing out of it at all.
 

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Rookie Draft Pick 24 - Justin Crow
Justin had a short career but he was one of the runners during the 2010 grand final (see him in the yellow next to MM when the siren goes). Plus I know him and he is a good bloke, so happy to keep this one :p
Aaron Sandilands went at 33

Also played a Few Seasons for our VFL Side as well
 
Dane Swan "a real footballer" sums it up
 
Unlucky draft.
Davidson, McGough and Walker were all pretty likely but unlucky.
davidson's knees. McGough's OP, can't remember Walker's issue, but pretty sure that injuries ruined his career.
With a bit of luck, could have been a bloody good draft.
Not thinking of Lee Walker? Tristan Walker was given a pretty good run at it. Showed signs on occasion but ultimately just wasn't good enough
 
Still Adamant on McGough. I thought he was great. I still maintain Malthouse ruined his confidence much like Jason Cloke. I'll never EVER forget that game at Etihad against Geelong where McGough SINGLE HANDEDLY got us back in the game and basically won it on his own and yet had Malthouse blasting him at every break.

Go f**k yourself you old prick.
 

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Judkins didn't exactly nail his picks did he?

Was a weird draft haul, it's like the ALMOST draft for us.

They all ALMOST became players and we ALMOST nailed it.

Cole had talent but not application and was too into the then large grp of indigenous Bombers and iirc supported them as a kid, over working hard to make a name at the Pies where he probably could of righted his career back on track.

Davidson again had a lot of talent but knees made from rubber bands.

Walker showed signs of becoming an ok backmen before MM ruined him by throwing him into the ruck first time ever for the 03 GF!

Mcgough started like a house on fire could find the ball but caught out on the spread.

Also Judkins imo was much more proficient at spotting forward talent then Dekka.
 
* Side note.
Imagine if Rusling, Davidson not injured and lived up to potential
Forward line

Rusling Cloke Didak
Davis Davidson Tarrant

...i need a lie down
 
Was a weird draft haul, it's like the ALMOST draft for us.

They all ALMOST became players and we ALMOST nailed it.

Cole had talent but not application and was too into the then large grp of indigenous Bombers and iirc supported them as a kid, over working hard to make a name at the Pies where he probably could of righted his career back on track.

Davidson again had a lot of talent but knees made from rubber bands.

Walker showed signs of becoming an ok backmen before MM ruined him by throwing him into the ruck first time ever for the 03 GF!

Mcgough started like a house on fire could find the ball but caught out on the spread.

Also Judkins imo was much more proficient at spotting forward talent then Dekka.


Disagree with you on this. None of those players had anywhere near the ability of the guns in this super draft. Apart from Swan we bombed hard.
I cannot for the life of me see how Tristen Walker's talents ever said AFL player. The 2nd part I disagree with is that Judkins is better than Dekka at anything with regards to recruiting. Their records as recruiters for us are chalk & cheese different & thank christ for that. Give me Dekka every single day of the week please. Cats nailed this draft & it has brought them multiple premierships.

BEST OF ‘01 DRAFT
B: Jason Gram (Pick 19) Brian Lake (71) Brent Reilly (12)

HB: Luke Hodge (1) Matt Maguire (21) Sam Mitchell (36)

C: Leigh Montagna (37) Dane Swan (58) James Kelly (17)

HF: Steve Johnson (24) Jarrad Waite (46) Nick Dal Santo (13)

F: Jimmy Bartel (8) David Hale (7) Adam Schneider (60)

Foll: Mark Seaby (22) Chris Judd (3) Gary Ablett (40 — F/S)

I/C: Luke Ball (2) Campbell Brown (32) Lewis Roberts-Thomson (29) Paul Medhurst (56)
 
Still Adamant on McGough. I thought he was great. I still maintain Malthouse ruined his confidence much like Jason Cloke. I'll never EVER forget that game at Etihad against Geelong where McGough SINGLE HANDEDLY got us back in the game and basically won it on his own and yet had Malthouse blasting him at every break.

Go f**k yourself you old prick.

 
Was a weird draft haul, it's like the ALMOST draft for us.

They all ALMOST became players and we ALMOST nailed it.

Cole had talent but not application and was too into the then large grp of indigenous Bombers and iirc supported them as a kid, over working hard to make a name at the Pies where he probably could of righted his career back on track.

Davidson again had a lot of talent but knees made from rubber bands.

Walker showed signs of becoming an ok backmen before MM ruined him by throwing him into the ruck first time ever for the 03 GF!

Mcgough started like a house on fire could find the ball but caught out on the spread.

Also Judkins imo was much more proficient at spotting forward talent then Dekka.

Sounds like MM Destroyed quite a Few Careers
 

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Disagree with you on this. None of those players had anywhere near the ability of the guns in this super draft. Apart from Swan we bombed hard.
I cannot for the life of me see how Tristen Walker's talents ever said AFL player. The 2nd part I disagree with is that Judkins is better than Dekka at anything with regards to recruiting. Their records as recruiters for us are chalk & cheese different & thank christ for that. Give me Dekka every single day of the week please. Cats nailed this draft & it has brought them multiple premierships.

BEST OF ‘01 DRAFT
B: Jason Gram (Pick 19) Brian Lake (71) Brent Reilly (12)

HB: Luke Hodge (1) Matt Maguire (21) Sam Mitchell (36)

C: Leigh Montagna (37) Dane Swan (58) James Kelly (17)

HF: Steve Johnson (24) Jarrad Waite (46) Nick Dal Santo (13)

F: Jimmy Bartel (8) David Hale (7) Adam Schneider (60)

Foll: Mark Seaby (22) Chris Judd (3) Gary Ablett (40 — F/S)

I/C: Luke Ball (2) Campbell Brown (32) Lewis Roberts-Thomson (29) Paul Medhurst (56)


If you go to the Rookie Draft you get Boyd and Sandilands in there as well. JPod could be argued as well.
 
Disagree with you on this. None of those players had anywhere near the ability of the guns in this super draft. Apart from Swan we bombed hard.
I cannot for the life of me see how Tristen Walker's talents ever said AFL player. The 2nd part I disagree with is that Judkins is better than Dekka at anything with regards to recruiting. Their records as recruiters for us are chalk & cheese different & thank christ for that. Give me Dekka every single day of the week please. Cats nailed this draft & it has brought them multiple premierships.

BEST OF ‘01 DRAFT
B: Jason Gram (Pick 19) Brian Lake (71) Brent Reilly (12)

HB: Luke Hodge (1) Matt Maguire (21) Sam Mitchell (36)

C: Leigh Montagna (37) Dane Swan (58) James Kelly (17)

HF: Steve Johnson (24) Jarrad Waite (46) Nick Dal Santo (13)

F: Jimmy Bartel (8) David Hale (7) Adam Schneider (60)

Foll: Mark Seaby (22) Chris Judd (3) Gary Ablett (40 — F/S)

I/C: Luke Ball (2) Campbell Brown (32) Lewis Roberts-Thomson (29) Paul Medhurst (56)

As I said ALMOST had players.

Cole on occasions showed plenty, application was his downfall not talent.

Walker did some jobs on Gorillas never a star but did in some parts show AFL standard stopping form but probably only a depth option (never claimed him to be a gun).


Judkins at pies had some poor luck with Fwds who did in fact show a lot of talent but injuries cruelled Rusling and Davidson, he was also responsible for C.Tarrant and bringing Anthony to the Club as well as the freebie hit in Cloke was only due in part his decision to take the other 2. Leon Davis, Nick Davis and Alan Didak more of Judkins work.

Can you name Dekkas forward line hits??

Dawes and half a tick for getting Cloke a decision made when we recruited Jason.


Dekka may well be superior in many regards but forward talent ID is definitely not 1.
 
Judkins at pies had some poor luck with Fwds who did in fact show a lot of talent but injuries cruelled Rusling and Davidson, he was also responsible for C.Tarrant and bringing Anthony to the Club as well as the freebie hit in Cloke was only due in part his decision to take the other 2. Leon Davis, Nick Davis and Alan Didak more of Judkins work.

Can you name Dekkas forward line hits??

1.
Fair call.
Elliott is a hit. I reckon that Faz will become a hit. Despite being a much better defender, I'd call Reid a hit. But that is it, unless you want to claim the likes of Daisy. However, I do think some of it is for a good reason - we haven't drafted many forwards. As a club, we were one of the first to recognise the shift in game style, whereby the small forward is expected to be part of the midfield rotation and cover the whole ground, therefore we've steered clear of pure forward pockets and recruited a heap of midfielders.

The lack of tall forwards drafted is more of an issue. We haven't drafted a heap of misses, we just haven't drafted many. Thank god that Cloke can carry injuries and doesn't seem to get serious injuries.
 

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