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2002/2003 Grand Final Losses

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nope. but he is in charge and the structure and team he did field, did not work obviously.
Uh huh... Rocca loses us that flag by getting suspended but it's Mick's fault because he can't find a decent replacement at the last minute after building the team around Rocca all year...

Riiiiiiiight *Dr Evil voice*
 
This is seriously the worst thread ever, bringing up such heartbreak is not called for! :thumbsd:
Well it was a Carlton Suppoter who Started it and Plus where did they finish in 02 and 03?
 
Uh huh... Rocca loses us that flag by getting suspended but it's Mick's fault because he can't find a decent replacement at the last minute after building the team around Rocca all year...

Riiiiiiiight *Dr Evil voice*

I wouldn't be placing too much blame on Rockhead either. I think we were beaten well all over the ground that day.
 
2002 we did our best and came up short regardless of any calls. I think we should have played McGough instead of Leon. I could find the posts where I vented this if I could be arse. Stinky McGough would have won the ball in those conditions and Leon had no possies (although to be fair Brisbane had two zeros as well, so it's just the way it is).

2003 we fielded probably...no, definitely...the worst Grand Final team I have ever seen and even Brisbane players said we didn't have the hunger. In addition, we didn't have the cattle either, and this, coupled with our shit 2001-2003 drafting and injuries to ageing stars, was the reason why we bottomed out and have had to relaunch from 2004-2005.

We were slight GF favorites despite having players like Lokan, Cole, Kinnear, J.Cloke (non-2002 version), Walker. Not to mention Davis was just about as affective as those players in those days too. Everyone failed. Our top 15 or so were very even but our bottom 5 were horrible for a grand final team. It eventually led to a very poor 2004/2005 because the players underneath the bottom 5 simply weren't good enough.
 

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Uh huh... Rocca loses us that flag by getting suspended but it's Mick's fault because he can't find a decent replacement at the last minute after building the team around Rocca all year...

Riiiiiiiight *Dr Evil voice*

grow up fella

also, there are a hundred Malthouse quotes where he himself says that injuries/suspensions are never an excuse and the 22 you walk out with is the team you must accept. or something to that effect..

of course rocca's suspension didnt help but malthouse is still held largely responsible for the loss. as the senior coach... duh

why are you even so angry? its not a bad thing to lay some accountability .. relax. im a malthouse fan more than the next guy
 
grow up fella

Yeah you can't handle the truth and wan't to play the juvenile blame the coach game for Rocca getting himself suspended and I should grow up :rolleyes:

Try telling Tom Hafey that he was responsible for losing the 1977 Grand final after Phil Carman got himself suspended..

I think Tommy T-shirt might respond by telling you to grow up... fella
 
you need to grow up and accept that others have legitimately different opinions to you. how juvenile and immature of you

Oh here we go, the childish grow up line again.. no wonder you don't want Rocca to take any responsibility for his actions.. you are actually the one acting like a child expecting Malthouse to have somehow done the impossible and covered Rocca's mistake :rolleyes:
 
Oh here we go, the childish grow up line again.. no wonder you don't want Rocca to take any responsibility for his actions.. you are actually the one acting like a child expecting Malthouse to have somehow done the impossible and covered Rocca's mistake :rolleyes:

where did i say this?

if you're gonna make things up why even talk to you?
 

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Hey GJ we have all danced with BC ..... your just BC's latest dance partner.

Rolling eyes hey ..... of course that could be a form of madness.
 
Hey GJ we have all danced with BC
Well you tell me Tess.. who lost us the 2003 GF.. Mick? or Rocca getting himself suspended?

Because I left that preliminary final dejected knowing we had just lost the Grand Final and it hadn't even been played yet.. and I'm pretty sure it wasn't Mick that hit Lade
 
Hey GJ we have all danced with BC ..... your just BC's latest dance partner.

Rolling eyes hey ..... of course that could be a form of madness.

the guy's a bit of a character haha. who the hell sends PMs while debating on a footy forum

and he calls me childish lmao

relax old man, its not even that serious ;):thumbsu:
 
Well you tell me Tess.. who lost us the 2003 GF.. Mick? or Rocca getting himself suspended?

I don't care, I just add it to the 77, 79, 80, 81 and 2002 heartbreaks(I don't remember 1970 or 1966).... I DON'T CARE!

Because I left that preliminary final dejected knowing we had just lost the Grand Final and it hadn't even been played yet

Pies Vs Port would have been a very different Grand Final, it's nice to think we were 5 points away from our 15th ...... but it's also a little presumptuous and arrogant. Who seriously gave Hawthorn a shot at beating Geelong this year!

Anyway go back to your hovel BC .... I feel yukky and dirty now I think I'll have a shower.
 

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Pies Vs Port would have been a very different Grand Final, it's nice to think we were 5 points away from our 15th ...... but it's also a little presumptuous and arrogant. Who seriously gave Hawthorn a shot at beating Geelong this year!

Anyway go back to your hovel BC .... I feel yukky and dirty now I think I'll have a shower.

No as usual you didn't understand me (even though it couldn't have been clearer).. I was talking about the 2003 preliminary.. not 2007 :rolleyes: yes the rolling eyes again

As for feeling dirty I cannot speak with any authority on your standards of hygiene :p
 
i blame ben kinnear's parents giving birth to that waste of space and mick and the match commitee for selecting him.
honorable mentions to A.Rocca, T Walker and L Davis as well
 
2002 we did our best and came up short regardless of any calls. I think we should have played McGough instead of Leon. I could find the posts where I vented this if I could be arse. Stinky McGough would have won the ball in those conditions and Leon had no possies (although to be fair Brisbane had two zeros as well, so it's just the way it is).
Largely agree but Molloy was clearly unfit and McGough should have been played at his expense.

The fact is we weren’t good enough. I can accept that particularly from the depths of 1999 and the impotency in 2000 after a 5 win start to the season. What I can’t accept is the failure to react and make the list changes necessary to win premiership. On top of that here we STILL are!

Who is to blame? The coach is the primary driver of list structure. He ahs had to endure some poor draft day selection but it started with his fat arsed hack policy and trading pick 3 for a dud ruckman and continued through neglect of the ruck and midfield pace and skill. Given the coach has not been good enough at list management, which is the most important fundamental IMO, then the board have to carry the can for failing to see and then act. The question is are our board impotent in front of Eddie or are they all collectively lacking the football nouse to be the best in the comp?
2003 we fielded probably...no, definitely...the worst Grand Final team I have ever seen and even Brisbane players said we didn't have the hunger. In addition, we didn't have the cattle either, and this, coupled with our shit 2001-2003 drafting and injuries to ageing stars, was the reason why we bottomed out and have had to relaunch from 2004-2005.
The worst performance I have ever seen in a grand final came from MM in 2003. From selection on Thursday to tactics and reactions on match day he was utterly out of his depth.
 
yup. its no secret im a big fan of MM but... yeh it was disgraceful

It was disgraceful that Rocca's brain fart forced MM to select from a bare cupboard.. if you have an idea of how he could have replaced our only power forward please inform us

Which of our other star forwards did MM forget to select? :rolleyes:
 
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