2002 Ladder – Conversion in front of goal

[X_box_X]

1. St. Kilda – 265-195 – 57.61%
2. Port Adel – 350-260 – 57.38%
3. West Coast – 327-246 – 57.07%
4. Hawthorn – 286-222 – 56.30%
5. Adelaide – 339-274 – 55.30%
6. Melbourne – 329-269 – 55.02%
7. W. Bulldogs – 342-283 – 54.72%
8. Geelong – 283-235 – 54.63%

9. Brisbane – 368-312 – 54.12%
10. Sydney – 310-263 – 54.10%
11. Kangaroos – 327-279 – 53.96%
12. Coll’wood – 303-263 – 53.53%
13. Carlton – 244-218 – 52.81%
14. Fremantle – 274-256 – 51.70%
15. Essendon – 278-271 – 50.64%
16. Richmond – 257-259 – 49.81%

 

[understudy]

Doesn't appear to have any correlation with ladder position.

I think these stats are influenced by the type of game plan teams play, which will influence things like set shots v non set shots, kicks from outside 50 v picks from inside 50 and rushed behinds.

So whilst the stats are useful, I think we need more information to really take any useful conclusions out of them!

Cheers

 

[funky_monk]

Originally posted by understudy
Doesn't appear to have any correlation with ladder position.

I think these stats are influenced by the type of game plan teams play, which will influence things like set shots v non set shots, kicks from outside 50 v picks from inside 50 and rushed behinds.

So whilst the stats are useful, I think we need more information to really take any useful conclusions out of them!

Cheers

Freo defintiely would have won more games last year if we kicked straight (Mr Croad and Mr Farmer come on downnn!).

So in our case and maybe the Bullies it was just a case of **** poor kicking.

 

[ScouseCat]

Originally posted by X_box_X
Geelong – 283-235 – 54.63%

The most important one of those 283 goals was Peter Riccardi's 55 metre goal after the siren against Carlton.... thank god he kicked it!!

 

[Pessimistic]

Originally posted by X_box_X
1. St. Kilda – 265-195 – 57.61%
2. Port Adel – 350-260 – 57.38%
3. West Coast – 327-246 – 57.07%
4. Hawthorn – 286-222 – 56.30%
5. Adelaide – 339-274 – 55.30%
6. Melbourne – 329-269 – 55.02%
7. W. Bulldogs – 342-283 – 54.72%
8. Geelong – 283-235 – 54.63%

9. Brisbane – 368-312 – 54.12%
10. Sydney – 310-263 – 54.10%
11. Kangaroos – 327-279 – 53.96%
12. Coll’wood – 303-263 – 53.53%
13. Carlton – 244-218 – 52.81%
14. Fremantle – 274-256 – 51.70%
15. Essendon – 278-271 – 50.64%
16. Richmond – 257-259 – 49.81%

And the saints have Reiwoldt, the power have Tredrea. where would they be if they could kick well everytime.

 

[The Doctor]

Interesting stats there Xie.

I'm amazed that the Bulldogs had 15 more scoring shots than Port and 59 more than Pies.

So we have no difficulty in scoring we just allow the others to score more, more often.

Do you have stats on goals and behinds conceded?

 

[FIGJAM]

Originally posted by understudy
I think these stats are influenced by the type of game plan teams play, which will influence things like set shots v non set shots, kicks from outside 50 v picks from inside 50 and rushed behinds.

Ground conditions would also be a factor in both number of shots taken and success rate achieved.

 

[X_box_X]

Originally posted by The Doctor
Interesting stats there Xie.

I'm amazed that the Bulldogs had 15 more scoring shots than Port and 59 more than Pies.

So we have no difficulty in scoring we just allow the others to score more, more often.

Do you have stats on goals and behinds conceded?

No, mate, not on the same site.
I will try and look for them, though.

 

[X_box_X]

Points conceded 2002 Ladder!


Based upon teams conceding total scoring shots:

1. Port Adel – 259-229 – 53.07% (488 total scoring shots)
2. Brisbane – 268-235 – 53.28% (503 total scoring shots)
3. Essendon – 265-257 – 50.77% (522 total scoring shots)
4. Sydney – 290-236 – 55.13% (526 total scoring shots)
5. Coll’wood – 273-259 – 51.32% (532 total scoring shots)
6. Adelaide – 295-237 – 55.45% (532 total scoring shots)
7. Geelong – 298-241 – 55.29% (539 total scoring shots)
8. Fremantle – 319-237 – 57.37 (556 total scoring shots)

9. Kangaroos – 338-241 – 58.38% (579 total scoring shots)
10. Hawthorn – 305-277 – 52.41% (582 total scoring shots)
11. Richmond – 317-270 – 54.00% (587 total scoring shots)
12. Bulldogs – 329-272 – 54.74% (601 total scoring shots)
13. St. Kilda – 334-267 – 55.57 (601 total scoring shots)
14. Melbourne – 327-283 – 53.61% (610 total scoring shots)
15. West Coast – 328-286 – 53.42% (614 total scoring shots)
16. Carlton – 337-278 – 54.80% (615 total scoring shots)

 

[ScouseCat]

Originally posted by X_box_X
Points conceded 2002 Ladder!


Based upon teams conceding total scoring shots:

1. Port Adel – 259-229 – 53.07% (488 total scoring shots)
2. Brisbane – 268-235 – 53.28% (503 total scoring shots)
3. Essendon – 265-257 – 50.77% (522 total scoring shots)
4. Sydney – 290-236 – 55.13% (526 total scoring shots)
5. Coll’wood – 273-259 – 51.32% (532 total scoring shots)
6. Adelaide – 295-237 – 55.45% (532 total scoring shots)
7. Geelong – 298-241 – 55.29% (539 total scoring shots)
8. Fremantle – 319-237 – 57.37 (556 total scoring shots)

9. Kangaroos – 338-241 – 58.38% (579 total scoring shots)
10. Hawthorn – 305-277 – 52.41% (582 total scoring shots)
11. Richmond – 317-270 – 54.00% (587 total scoring shots)
12. Bulldogs – 329-272 – 54.74% (601 total scoring shots)
13. St. Kilda – 334-267 – 55.57 (601 total scoring shots)
14. Melbourne – 327-283 – 53.61% (610 total scoring shots)
15. West Coast – 328-286 – 53.42% (614 total scoring shots)
16. Carlton – 337-278 – 54.80% (615 total scoring shots)

Xie, does this mean that the teams who are higher up on this ladder are the ones with better defences or not necessarilly??

 

[MarkT]

Re: Re: 2002 Ladder – Conversion in front of goal

Originally posted by ScouseCat
The most important one of those 283 goals was Peter Riccardi's 55 metre goal after the siren against Carlton.... thank god he kicked it!!

I think it was the most important of the 236 points which makes it even better.

 

[X_box_X]

Originally posted by ScouseCat
Xie, does this mean that the teams who are higher up on this ladder are the ones with better defences or not necessarilly??

The higher the teams are placed, the fewer scoring shots they conceded throughout the duration of the 2002 home and away season. So, yeah, basically the ladder determines how good a teams defence was in 2002.

 

[MightySaint]

Well, i think i have every right to be ****ed off.

Clearly, St.Kilda had the best attack in 2002 and the 13th worst defence, therefore we should have finished 7th!!! Well? I want justice damnit.

 

[nonchalance]

so should we assume from this that defense is more important than attack?

 

[TheMase]

Originally posted by X_box_X
Points conceded 2002 Ladder!


Based upon teams conceding total scoring shots:

4. Sydney – 290-236 – 55.13% (526 total scoring shots)

Ouch!

Geez, we really are going to struggle without only Dunkley ..

 

[shiva25]

Those goalkicking stats only relate to which team made the most of their opportunities in front of goal.
For instance Brisbane had 680 shots for goal as opposed to StKildas 460 and therfore created more opportunities in front of goal and most of the time that is what will win you games

 

[Portia]

Originally posted by ScouseCat
Xie, does this mean that the teams who are higher up on this ladder are the ones with better defences or not necessarilly??

I think its a measure of defensive midfield play (ie. the halfback & centre line), because the main reason there would be less scoring shots is because the opposition aren't close enough to get a ping at goal.

Either that or it indicates the sides that were most often having to counter their opposition's defensive flooding.

 

[*Paul*]

Incidentally, St Kilda's 2002 effort came in as the 10th best in history
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/teams/allteams/season.html#11

 

[da_bomber]

Originally posted by X_box_X
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15. Essendon – 278-271 – 50.64%
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Geez I didnt know Essendon were that bad in converting in front without Lloyd.

 

[Falchoon]

Re: Re: 2002 Ladder – Conversion in front of goal

Originally posted by Pessimistic
And the saints have Reiwoldt, the power have Tredrea. where would they be if they could kick well everytime.

Didn't think Riewoldt was as bad as Tredrea, but snapshot Milney had a big say in the Saints leading that particular stat.

 

[Falchoon]

Originally posted by *Paul*
Incidentally, St Kilda's 2002 effort came in as the 10th best in history
http://stats.rleague.com/afl/teams/allteams/season.html#11

Don't want to be picky Paul because that is a great great site.

But the Saints should be 9th

57.60869% to Essendon 57.60563%

 

[*Paul*]

Ha..well spotted. For reasons that are too boring to relate, I only used 2 only decimal places in that particular instance.

 

[Port01]

Re: Re: Re: 2002 Ladder – Conversion in front of goal

Originally posted by Falchoon
Didn't think Riewoldt was as bad as Tredrea, but snapshot Milney had a big say in the Saints leading that particular stat.

Nicks had worse accuracy this year than all of Tredrea's seasons bar one (2000), so he isnt too good so far.

 

[Falchoon]

Re: Re: Re: Re: 2002 Ladder – Conversion in front of goal

Originally posted by Port01
Nicks had worse accuracy this year than all of Tredrea's seasons bar one (2000), so he isnt too good so far.

Fair enough, the stats don't lie and his 6-2 in rd 22 saved him from a below 50% conversion.



Here's an interesting one

Stewy Loewe kicked 70-26 in his last 3 seasons at 72%
better than dead eye **** Steven Milne at 71%
in the same period Matthew Lloyd kicked 68%

 

[Port01]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: 2002 Ladder – Conversion in front of goal

Originally posted by Falchoon

Stewy Loewe kicked 70-26 in his last 3 seasons at 72%

Yep there is hope for everyone.

Dew kicked 27.35 in 1999

From 2000-02 he kicked 115.52

Obviously it can change quickly.