2003 Strategy

[Portmanteau]

Step 1: JB, one-out in the forward line. Put it in there, he'll out mark his opponent or collect the crumbs with ease. No one in the AFL can out run him. Next, flood the backlines.

Step 2: ?

Step 3: Profit.

 

[Portia]

#1. Ruckman punches backwards or loses the tap, where we gather and move forward in numbers.
#2. As the ball is carried forward, the half forwards act as blockers, clearing the path for the ball carrier.
#3. Shots from 50 are all goals. If kicked from outside 50, Tredrea or Cornes are to wrestle their direct opponent in the goalsquare, either removing them from the contest to their advantage or getting a free kick.

*thumbs through Lethal's playbook some more*

 

[fugitive]

Port's game plan for 2003:

Strategy #1: stop choking!

Strategy #2: stop choking!

Strategy #3: stop choking!

If none of the above work then sack the coach

 

[gbear]

Originally posted by fugitive
Port's game plan for 2003:

Strategy #1: stop choking!

Strategy #2: stop choking!

Strategy #3: stop choking!

If none of the above work then sack the coach

If only we all had your level of intelligence

 

[mic59]

Mark Williams strategy so far has been working but his plan B's have left a little to desire. The one I have least time for is to move Tredrea or Cornes up the ground when they are getting beaten. This only means that their defenders have succeeded in reducing the damage they can cause, and in the case of Leppitsch especially, means the opposition has another attacker. I would much prefer to see them moved to the goalsquare. This would make their defender more accountable, and would possibly allow them to win the one-on-ones. Some defenders who are good at CHB are likely to be beaten at FB and Tredrea, especially, is a good FF. This is also something that could be tried with Francou or N.Stevens when they are being tagged out of a game.

This is not to say Tredrea or Cornes should never move up the ground. That is often the best part of their games. I am just saying that neither should have to do that simply because they are being beaten at half-forward.

 

[Andre]

Originally posted by mic59
Mark Williams strategy so far has been working but his plan B's have left a little to desire. The one I have least time for is to move Tredrea or Cornes up the ground when they are getting beaten. This only means that their defenders have succeeded in reducing the damage they can cause, and in the case of Leppitsch especially, means the opposition has another attacker. I would much prefer to see them moved to the goalsquare. This would make their defender more accountable, and would possibly allow them to win the one-on-ones. Some defenders who are good at CHB are likely to be beaten at FB and Tredrea, especially, is a good FF. This is also something that could be tried with Francou or N.Stevens when they are being tagged out of a game.

Well put. Plan A when it can be executed successfully makes it look like we are having a training run with the U19's. However teams which play man on man (ie. most finals football and the kangaroos *grrr*) stop this being able to be executed and make us look second rate. The main strategy the coaching panel has to come up with over the summer is how to win (and win well) when teams man up on us. It's well known as our weakness and whilst we can get away with against bottom rung teams and don't face it much during the minor round, until we can beat this ploy we are going to face difficulties in the finals again and again.

 

[stefoid]

Port are basicly where the doggies were in 97, except I reckon the whole comp is a notch or two higher in quality since then.

We had extracted the absolute best from our list then, expected to win in the finals, finished 2nd on the ladder at the end of the home and away, yada yada, but fell over in the finals.

Hopefully for you guys, Williams will learn from his mistakes and change his strategy, whereas Terry Wallet did not, and we slid worse every year.

You just cant win the big finals games by trying to run into space all the time and find loose men, becaues there wont be any!

 

[mic59]

One thing everyone, myself included, seems to have missed here is that Port had a great year and nearly competed in the GF. Alright, I know nearly is the same as Carlton getting the spoon but think of this. Had the Collingwood game gone our way we would have had a rest and then the Cows at AAMI Stadium. And everything went wrong in the Collingwood game. Peter Burgoyne played on and was caught, generally he would have scored. Stewie Dew and Wangas missed at the start of the last quarter two easy shots. Chad Cornes passed along the ground to Kane Cornes when a direct pass would have had him running into goal. Mead dropped that mark, a mark he has taken easily time and again. Poulton's kicks under pressure out of defence went to the opposition nearly every time. Stewie Dew was running into goal when a soft free which hadn't been given all night was awarded to Collingwood.
None of this is to give excuses for the loss, Port don't do that, but to show that the strategy that is being used is not a complete waste. Had just a few things gone right on that night we would have had those players who were carrying injuries from the Essendon game fit to go. And once we made the GF, who knows?
So I would not, and I hope the PAFC would not change things too much in 2003.

 

[PAfolwr]

Originally posted by mic59
One thing everyone, myself included, seems to have missed here is that Port had a great year and nearly competed in the GF.

The trouble though Mic is that since the beginning of the year it was obvious we were going to win a ****load of games and some of them by quite a space.
It was also obvious that if plan "B" was ever going to be needed we would be in big big big trouble. I could throw in a few more bigs as well.
The way the finals panned out was no different to how we played in the season proper. No different at all. In these "close" games, if everything went right we would win, but why rely on that when we had a team good enough to flog the crap out of someone like Collingwood.
It should have been a case of " if everything goes wrong we can still win" just like Brisbane in the GF".
Yes we had a "good" year, but the similarities between us and the Doggies of a few years back don't stop at Grant and Tredrea being too nice and their goalkicking.

 

[Santos L Helper]

I agree with most of the comments here, but I would like more evidence of this mysterious 'plan B'.
From my observations, 'plan B' has consisted of panic moves usually made too late and without any real planning and thought.
I'm not sure there is a PLAN B.

 

[rubberman]

Plan A - Play like Port Adelaide Football Club. If this plan fails.
Plan B - Play like Port Adelaide Football Club.

 

[PAfolwr]

Originally posted by Santos L Helper
I agree with most of the comments here, but I would like more evidence of this mysterious 'plan B'.
From my observations, 'plan B' has consisted of panic moves usually made too late and without any real planning and thought.
I'm not sure there is a PLAN B.

That is exactly right.
In particular the bit about "made too late".
The only thing that vaguely resembled a "plan B" was to swap one player for another but still use the same "strategy" and hope for the best.
ie if Lade wasn't getting the ball because the midfield was clogged, then swap French for Lade and hope for the best (if we were playing three ruckman in that game).

 

[Eago77]

Originally posted by mic59
Mark Williams strategy so far has been working but his plan B's have left a little to desire. The one I have least time for is to move Tredrea or Cornes up the ground when they are getting beaten. This only means that their defenders have succeeded in reducing the damage they can cause, and in the case of Leppitsch especially, means the opposition has another attacker. I would much prefer to see them moved to the goalsquare. This would make their defender more accountable, and would possibly allow them to win the one-on-ones. Some defenders who are good at CHB are likely to be beaten at FB and Tredrea, especially, is a good FF. This is also something that could be tried with Francou or N.Stevens when they are being tagged out of a game.

Whenever Stevens or Francou go to the Full forward line we may as well just take them off cos they never do anything up there, they are not good players out of the goal square.

 

[Portia]

Originally posted by Eago77
Whenever Stevens or Francou go to the Full forward line we may as well just take them off cos they never do anything up there, they are not good players out of the goal square.

Agree. Francou gives it a go, but Stevens has no idea of how to play forward. I couldn't tell you the last time he had a set shot that came from him already being inside 50.

 

[Eago77]

Originally posted by Santos L Helper
I agree with most of the comments here, but I would like more evidence of this mysterious 'plan B'.
From my observations, 'plan B' has consisted of panic moves usually made too late and without any real planning and thought.
I'm not sure there is a PLAN B.

Pretty close to the mark with that.

The best plan "B" would see all the players go in that extra bit harder. Normally you can tell it's going to be a hard game by halfway through the first quarter if we are not tackling and chasing like we actually can.

I think most teams struggle when they have to move to plan "B" against good teams, i guess it's a case of taking the game up to the opposition and trying to beat them at our game and if that doesn't work make sure we really work our butts off.

 

[PAfolwr]

Originally posted by Eago77
Whenever Stevens or Francou go to the Full forward line we may as well just take them off cos they never do anything up there, they are not good players out of the goal square.

Stevens in the forward line Vs the Swans?
Different year same results.

 

[Andre]

And isn't this thread a great indication of how little the coaching staff learnt from the mistakes of 2002 and just tried to do what we did well better in 2003 instead of fixing the parts that didn't work or
FINDING A PLAN B THAT WORKS AGAINST MAN ON MAN FINALS FOOTBALL!

 

[mic59]

Deja vu?