2006 - The Worst AFL draft ever

[Captain_Bender]

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy...d2=5&type=A&pid1=1788&pid2=1726&fid1=C&fid2=C

Westhoff has played 90 more games than Ben Reid and leads Reid in every statistical category per game other than a 0.3 deficit in average marks. By no measure has Ben Reid had a better career than Westhoff, Westhoff has played significantly more games and has performed better on a per game basis. Gee it'd be nice to play for a big Victorian club.

Ben Reid is a premiership player and an All Australian easily better than Westhoff and Westhoff has only played more because Ben Reid has missed a fair bit of footy to injuries

 

[NotAMagpieBogan]

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy...d2=5&type=A&pid1=1788&pid2=1726&fid1=C&fid2=C

Westhoff has played 90 more games than Ben Reid and leads Reid in every statistical category per game other than a 0.3 deficit in average marks. By no measure has Ben Reid had a better career than Westhoff, Westhoff has played significantly more games and has performed better on a per game basis. Gee it'd be nice to play for a big Victorian club.

‘By no measure has Ben Reid had a better career than Westhoff’, apart from the measure of All Australian nominations and Premierships.

 

[TimmeT]

Ben Reid is a premiership player and an All Australian easily better than Westhoff and Westhoff has only played more because Ben Reid has missed a fair bit of footy to injuries

The premiership player argument is rubbish. There are a fair few hall of famers who are quite a bit better than Reid is but never won the flag.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

2007 Draft:

B: Dew, S Thompson, Taylor
HB: Wood, Rance, S Selwood
C: Steven, Dangerfield, Ebert
HF: S Reid, Hooker, Mayne
F: C Rioli, T Walker, McEvoy
R: Kreuzer, Ward, Cotchin
I: Henderson, Masten, Greenwood, Palmer
E: R Tarrant, Otten, Myers

 

[Captain_Bender]

The premiership player argument is rubbish. There are a fair few hall of famers who are quite a bit better than Reid is but never won the flag.

And also a All Australian which Westhoff has never been

 

[Komrade_Tiger]

The premiership player argument is rubbish. There are a fair few hall of famers who are quite a bit better than Reid is but never won the flag.

yet westhoff isn't a HoF.....so that argument is a bit moot.

 

[Schulzenfest]

‘By no measure has Ben Reid had a better career than Westhoff’, apart from the measure of All Australian nominations and Premierships.

Brent Renouf leads Gary Ablett Snr in premierships.

 

[twiggy4PM]

IMO Westhoff could have been better, but he often appears disinterested or lacking intensity and is only turning up to collect his paycheck. A couple of times a season he has a fantastic game but he also has games where you need to check if he has actually playing as he has zero effect. For someone who seems to have the potential to be very good, he has way too many below average games.

 

[Captain_Bender]

Brent Renouf leads Gary Ablett Snr in premierships.

Westhoff as Jack Dyer would have said is nothing more than just a good ordinary player

 

[Tulip]

No wonder Carlton used their pick 1 on a solid half bank flanker and perhaps seemingly wasted their number 1 PSD pick on Cain Ackland.

Lets look at the depth of the 2006 Draft:

1. Carlton: Bryce Gibbs (Glenelg)
2. Essendon: Scott Gumbleton (Peel)
3. Kangaroos: Lachlan Hansen (Gippsland)
4. Brisbane: Matthew Leuenberger (East Perth)
5. Port Adelaide: Travis Boak (Geelong Falcons)
6. Hawthorn: Mitchell Thorp (Tassie Mariners)
7. Geelong: Joel Selwood (Bendigo)
8. Collingwood: Ben Reid (Murray)
9. St Kilda: David Armitage (Morningside)
10. Collingwood: Nathan Brown (Nth Ballarat)
11. Western Bulldogs: Andrejs Everitt (Dandenong)
12. Melbourne: James Frawley (Nth Ballarat)
13. Richmond: Jack Riewoldt (Tassie Mariners)
14. Adelaide: James Sellar (Glenelg)
15. Sydney: Daniel O'Keefe (Geelong Falcons)

16. West Coast: Mitchell Brown (Nth Ballarat)
17. Carlton: Sean Hampson (Mt Gravatt)
18. Essendon: Leroy Jetta (Sth Fremantle)
19. Carlton: Shaun Grigg (Nth Ballarat)
20. Essendon: Tom Hislop (Tassie Mariners)
21. Kangaroos:Gavin Urquhart (Morningside)
22. Brisbane: Albert Proud (Mt Gravatt)
23. Port Adelaide: Paul Stewart (Woodville-West Torrens)
24. Hawthorn: Brent Renouf (Southport)
25. Geelong: Nathan Djerrkura (NT Thunder)
26. Richmond: Shane Edwards (Nth Adelaide)
27. St Kilda: Brad Howard (Redlands)
28. Collingwood: Chris Dawes (Sandringham)
29. West Coast: Eric MacKenzie (Claremont)
30. Melbourne: Ricky Petterd (Broadbeach)
31. Fremantle: Clayton Collard (Sth Fremantle)

32. Adelaide: Kurt Tippett (Southport)
33. Hawthorn: Jarryd Morton (Claremont)
34. Brisbane: Chris Schmidt (West Adelaide)
35. Carlton: Mark Austin (Glenelg)
36. Essendon: Alwyn Davey (Sth Adelaide)
37. Kangaroos: Todd Goldstein (Oakleigh)
38. Brisbane: James Hawksley (Peel)
39. Port Adelaide: Nathan Krakouer (Claremont)
40. Hawthorn: Josh P. Kennedy (sandringgam Dragons)
41. Geelong: Tom Hawkins (sandringham Dragons)
42. Essendon: Bachar Houli (Western)
43. West Coast: Tim Houlihan (Nth Ballarat)
44. Collingwood: Brad Dick (East Fremantle)
45. Western Bulldogs: Brennan Stack (Perth)
46. Melbourne: Colin Garland (Tassie Mariners)
47. Essendon: Kyle Reimers (Peel)

48. Adelaide: David MacKay (Oakleigh)
49. Sydney: Daniel Currie (Northern Knights)
50. West Coast: Will Schofield (Geelong Falcons)
51. Carlton: Clint Benjamin (Claremont)
52. Fremantle: Brock O'Brien (Peel)
53. Kangaroos: Lindsay Thomas (Port Adelaide)
54. Brisbane: Matt Tyler (Nth Ballarat)
55. Port Adelaide: Robert Gray (Oakleigh)
56. Hawthorn: Garry Moss (East Perth)
57. Geelong: Simon Hogan (Geelong Falcons)
58. Richmond: Daniel Connors (Bendigo)
59. St Kilda: Jarryd Allen (Calder)
60. Richmond: Carl Peterson (Claremont)
61. Western Bulldogs: Josh Hill (Claremont)
62. Melbourne: Isack Weetra (Port Adelaide Magpies)
63. Collingwood: Tyson Goldsack (Gippsland)
64. Adelaide: Nick Gill (Nth Adelaide)
65. Sydney: Peter Faulks (Calder)

66. Western Bulldogs: Malcom Lynch (NSW/ACT Rams)
67. Carlton: Joe Anderson (Darwin)
68. Essendon PASS
69. Kangaroos: Ben Warren (Zillmere Eagles)
70. Brisbane: Sam Sheldon (Oakleigh)
71. Port Adelaide: Justin Westhoff (Central Districts)
72. Hawthorn PASS
73. Richmond: Andrew Collins (Bendigo)
74. St Kilda: Matthew Ferguson (St Kilda)
75. Collingwood PASS
76. Western Bulldogs: Paul O'Shea (Redlands/Toowoomba)
77. Fremantle: Calib Mourish (Towns)
78. Adelaide: Bryce Campbell (Norwood)
79. Sydney: Jesse White (Southport)
80. West Coast: James Thomson (Claremont)
81. Carlton: PASS
82. Kangaroos: Aaron Edwards (Frankston)
83. Port Adelaide: Ryan Williams (Geelong Falcons)
84. Richmond: PASS
85. St Kilda: PASS
86. Port Adelaide: David Rodan (Richard)
87. St Kilda: PASS
88. Port Adelaide: PASS
89. St Kilda: PASS

Strange OP, the bolded all had good, solid careers and better.

Still, it was a KPP draft and they take more than three years to come good. Probably a walking advertisement of why its too early to call how good a draft is until you're four or five years in.

 

[JVseven]

I see Richmond had 4 premiership players from this draft. I will take it.

Did you guys win the Premiership? I hadn’t heard.

 

[The Dice Man]

Did you guys win the Premiership? I hadn’t heard.

Where you been man, Mars?

 

[Gone Critical]

Great draft for the Pies. Including the rookie draft 6 2010 premiership players. Reid, Brown, Dawes, Goldsack, Wellingham and Macaffer. Includes the CHF, CHB and FB of the flag side.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Great draft for the Pies. Including the rookie draft 6 2010 premiership players. Reid, Brown, Dawes, Goldsack, Wellingham and Macaffer. Includes the CHF, CHB and FB of the flag side.

Perhaps you need to get that list manager back.

 

[Gone Critical]

Perhaps you need to get that list manager back.

Still got him. That was Hines work.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Still got him. That was Hines work.

So better drafter than trader?

Still don't understand why he hasn't addressed your KPP issue over the last couple of years, as you have plenty of quality midfielders.

 

[Gone Critical]

So better drafter than trader?

Still don't understand why he hasn't addressed your KPP issue over the last couple of years, as you have plenty of quality midfielders.

Yep we are unbalanced

 

[Tarkyn_24]

https://www.footywire.com/afl/footy...d2=5&type=A&pid1=1788&pid2=1726&fid1=C&fid2=C

Westhoff has played 90 more games than Ben Reid and leads Reid in every statistical category per game other than a 0.3 deficit in average marks. By no measure has Ben Reid had a better career than Westhoff, Westhoff has played significantly more games and has performed better on a per game basis. Gee it'd be nice to play for a big Victorian club.

Ben Reid’s ceiling was far better than Westhoff’s. He intercept marked everything in 2011, and was critical to our flag push in 2010.

I don’t think Westhoff having the lead in things like hitouts or goals (Reid pinch hits forward at best rather than playing large proportions of his career there) in any way indicates their relative talents or standings.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Strange OP, the bolded all had good, solid careers and better.

Still, it was a KPP draft and they take more than three years to come good. Probably a walking advertisement of why its too early to call how good a draft is until you're four or five years in.

I think you’re being pretty harsh on Aaron Edwards and Jesse White there not including them in your list of bolder players too. I’d argue they were as good as blokes like Garland and Dawes that you’ve included in bold.

 

[BPikkers]

I'd argue he's had a better individual career than Brown, Reid, Frawley, Tippett and Edwards from that first 18.

He comfortably has everyone on the bench and emergencies covered. The idea that someone like Dawes is ahead of him is laughable.

I agree he should be in the team. Definitely better than Dawes and a few others. However, he isn’t better than Reid.

One question I do have is what position does he actually play? He is t a KPP. He seems to play his best footy as a floating backman.

 

[El_Scorcho]

I agree he should be in the team. Definitely better than Dawes and a few others. However, he isn’t better than Reid.

One question I do have is what position does he actually play? He is t a KPP. He seems to play his best footy as a floating backman.

He's a utility, but his most common role is an intercept marking half back who then plays as a linkman when we've got the ball. Strengths are marking and running power for his size.

 

[Hellgood]

I think you’re being pretty harsh on Aaron Edwards and Jesse White there not including them in your list of bolder players too. I’d argue they were as good as blokes like Garland and Dawes that you’ve included in bold.

Was going to point that out too lol, pretty inconsistent list.

 

[Papa G]

Westhoff as Jack Dyer would have said is nothing more than just a good ordinary player

This describes 19 of Richmond's premiership winning side.

 

[Bojangles17]

This describes 19 of Richmond's premiership winning side.

How do u rate your own crappy side that couldn’t beat a top 8 team all year ,,,anywhere , less than ordinary I would have thought

 

[Kangaroos4eva]

Strange OP, the bolded all had good, solid careers and better.

Still, it was a KPP draft and they take more than three years to come good. Probably a walking advertisement of why its too early to call how good a draft is until you're four or five years in.

Hansen played a 150 games, he had a solid career, didn't live up to potential and injuries let him down a lot, but he had a good few years between 2012 and 2015.