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2008 PDFL split

To change or not to change?

  • Nothing wrong with the current PDFL setup.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I like the proposed 3 tier system.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I would prefer a 2 Division PDFL only System.

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Needs change ....Maybe another option.

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
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League 1
Billabong
Berrigan
Jerilderie
Blighty
Rennie
Yarroweyah
Kattie
Strathy
Deni??
Katunga??

Leauge 2

Dookie
Shep east
Tunga
Katandra
Waaia
Wunghu
Picola
Mathoura
Voilet Town??? (With Katunga or Deni??)

Any thoughts????:rolleyes:
 
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League 1
Billabong
Berrigan
Jerilderie
Blighty
Rennie
Yarroweyah
Kattie
Strathy
Deni??
Katunga??

Leauge 2

Dookie
Shep east
Tunga
Katandra
Waaia
Wunghu
Picola
Mathoura
Voilet Town??? (With Katunga or Deni??)

Any thoughts????:rolleyes:

In league two you have 5 sides which have won a majority of the last 10-15 flags against 3 sides which have figured predominately in the bottom half of the ladder over that time ????
 
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:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:If the league let Rennie in, that would mean definately 3-4 clubs will have to merge....... with in the next 3-5 years. Because gate numbers will be down for you don't get to play rival clubs twice, people will play Murray league for travel reasons... Leauge lets Rennie in, What's stopping Billabong Crows wanting in the year after that????:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:

Why would Rennie (joining PDFL) cause 3 or 4 clubs to merge???
 

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no i don't know anyone from the rennie football club and for all i know they might be greatest club on earth, still doesn't change the fact i don't think they should be in the comp. fair enough - your opinion.
mathoura is approx. 46klm form picola which up untill recently was the centre of the league hence , picola and district football league !! i didn't know validity to be in the pdfl was based on who was closest to picola geographically. How the hell did tungamah or berrigan (for example) get in to the comp?
also who would have most amount of current pdfls clubs within a 100klm radius rennie or mathoura ? ptf - this isn't a contest regarding the merits of rennie vs mathoura. What bearing should this question have on the outcome?
so do you think making life harder from the clubs already within the comp. Is good for football ? so rennie would make life harder for clubs? Wtf?
how many of these clubs that apparently approached you have been in the league longer then 7 years, and was there more than 8, 50% of the league ? don't know much about the history of those clubs though i believ one of them has been in the pdfl for a very very long time. I'm not too sure how valid that is anyway.
because the vcfl has confirmed to me that they have not been informed of any official approach by the pdfl ? i believe it has to go through the pdfl first. The approach by rennie is by the vcfl handbook.
do you realise that the pdfl is governed / aflliated, with the vcfl who will ultimately make the final decision ? yes.
wasn't there also an application rejected last season ? no. This is rennie's first application to the pdfl. Dud info ptf if you believe or have been told otherwise.
why would rennie consider joining the pdfl ?? you'll see on monday night (are you invited / going to be there?)
did you ever think the " if things don't change " may already be getting worked on and may be attributed to the amount of clubs and travel now in the league ?
well, judging by those clubs that approached rennie, apparently things aren't getting worked on sufficiently enough. I think rennie is being used as a bit of leverage to try and push things along. Rennie is aware of this and is happy to participate as they see a better future in that comp. I'm told there was a very close vote last year on splitting the pdfl. I think that some clubs see rennie coming in as a way to force that change.

ptf - i don't think rennie should be made out to be the bad guys in this. Their old comp (the cdfl) folded and they were put into the hume fl against their wishes. Rennie wish/need to be in a comp where they will flourish not flounder. The pdfl appears to be a better fit. Clearly, a number of other pdfl clubs are of the same view.
 
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Question : [Hand Grenade]Gees PTF you seem anti Rennie? Do you know anyone from there or anything about the club?

Answer : [pace to freeze]No I don't know anyone from the Rennie football club and for all I know they might be greatest club on earth, still doesn't change the fact I don't think they should be in the comp.

Question : [Hand Grenade]What clubs don't want Rennie in besides your mob (which is Mathoura isn't it?) From what I'm hearing, plenty of clubs (including yours) won't be around in a few years if things don't change. You keep sooking about the travel - what the hell do you expect when you're perched out on the western end of the comp?

Answer : [Pace To Freeze]Mathoura is approx. 46klm form Picola which up untill recently was the centre of the league hence , Picola and District Football League !!
Also who would have most amount of current PDFLS clubs within a 100klm radius Rennie or Mathoura ?
So do you think making life harder from the clubs already within the comp. is good for football ?

Random opinion : [BACKS SORE]:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:If the league let Rennie in, that would mean definately 3-4 clubs will have to merge....... with in the next 3-5 years. Because gate numbers will be down for you don't get to play rival clubs twice, people will play Murray league for travel reasons... Leauge lets Rennie in, What's stopping Billabong Crows wanting in the year after that????:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:[/quote]

Question : [ Hand Grenade ]If things were perfect in the PDFL Rennie would not have been approached by a number of your clubs to come across.[/quote]

Answer : [ Pace To Freeze ]How many of these clubs that apparently approached you have been in the league longer then 7 years, and was there more than 8, 50% of the league ?
Because the VCFL has confirmed to me that they have not been informed of any official approach by the PDFL ?
Do you realise that the PDFL is governed / aflliated, with the VCFL who will ultimately make the final decision ?

Question : [ Pace To Freeze ]Wasn't there also an application rejected last season ?
Why would Rennie consider joining the PDFL ??
Did you ever think the " If things don't change " may already be getting worked on and may be attributed to the amount of clubs and travel now in the league ?

Answer : [Hand Grenade]well, judging by those clubs that approached rennie, apparently things aren't getting worked on sufficiently enough. I think rennie is being used as a bit of leverage to try and push things along. Rennie is aware of this and is happy to participate as they see a better future in that comp. I'm told there was a very close vote last year on splitting the pdfl.


Hopefully this answers all questions you have hand grenade if not pm and I will be more than happy to respond.
I appreciate that an unofficial , under handed approach, may have been made to the Rennie football and given some of our leagues decisions of late would not at all be surprised, however I personally don't think it is supported by the majority of the PDFL or the VCFL, which can be and will be debated despite the recommendation which comes from the next league meeting.
It is possible that whatever decisions are reached at the next meeting may be appealled against to the VCFL, by any of the current clubs, or the VCFL may refuse the PDFL's recommendation on any issue, Rennies application to join or a proposed re-zoning ?
 
Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

Right o after much thought and must admitt some input from others,and a gut feel of what level clubs may be able to compete on a regular basis, heres my latest thought what the PDFL should consider at the next league meeting on the 29th of September.
Rennies proposal to join the current PDFL, rejected short term but certainly leave the door open for the future and after the current PDFL debacile is sorted out.
Immediate, for 2009 season, change to the current PDFL format.

Heres my latest crack of the split :

Comp # 1 ( The 8 most successfull sides over the past 10 years, Blighty Jerilderie , gone with gut feeling of abilty to sustain success )
Waaia
Katandra
Tungamah
Shepp East
Jeriliderie
Dookie
Strathy
Kattamatitie


Comp # 2 ( the 8 less successful sides over the past 10 years, Blighty and Jerilderie is a difficult one but gone with gut feeling of being able to sustain success)

Blighty
Katunga
Yarroweyah
Berrigan
Mathoura
Picola
Deni Rovers
Wunghnu

Both comps to be run individually , however certain regulations to apply.

Comp #1
If a side finishes bottom of the ladder for 2 consecutive seasons they shall be offered the opportunity to drop down to comp 2, if they finish bottom 3 years in a row they are automatically replaced by the most succesfull side over 3 years in comp 2, if there is two sides which have achieved equal success in comp 2 over that time the most succesfull in the past season will automatically be elevated.
If a side finishes bottom 2, 5 years consecutive they shall be offered the same relegation.

Comp # 2
If a side finishes top of the ladder for 2 consecutive seasons they shall be offered the opportunity to jump up to comp 1, if they finish finish top 3 years in a row they automatically replace the less most sucessful side in comp 1, if there is two sides which have been equally unsucessfull in comp 1 the least sucessful in the previous season should be relegated.
If a side finishes top 2, 5 years consecutive they shall be offered the same elevation.

Funny enough travel ends up as goods as any system I have tried !

Hope all makes sense !!


This doesnt look too bad PTF. THe only thing i would question is the regulation and deregulation of sides. The must be given the option to go up of down a comp. For instance. A club may finish on top for 2-3 years becuase they have a number of locals returning to play or have alot of work inthe district, if circumstances chaged and that club wont be as strong over the following 2-3 years should they have to go up a comp ?? I may be wrong but just my observation of how some country leagues go. Alot of clubs have 2-3 years at the top then loose a few and drop off the pace a little. Bit different in the PDFL as instread of having 1 or 2 standout sides (as in most leagues) there are 4-5 or even six stong contenders. Have a final 5 in each comp so to encourage everyone to play finals.
 
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This doesnt look too bad PTF. THe only thing i would question is the regulation and deregulation of sides. The must be given the option to go up of down a comp. For instance. A club may finish on top for 2-3 years becuase they have a number of locals returning to play or have alot of work inthe district, if circumstances chaged and that club wont be as strong over the following 2-3 years should they have to go up a comp ?? I may be wrong but just my observation of how some country leagues go. Alot of clubs have 2-3 years at the top then loose a few and drop off the pace a little. Bit different in the PDFL as instread of having 1 or 2 standout sides (as in most leagues) there are 4-5 or even six stong contenders. Have a final 5 in each comp so to encourage everyone to play finals.

Did consider the time frame before being forced and obviously if a system similar to this was put into place, it would be adjusted along the way as needed.
Think forcing clubs to elevate or relegate after 3 years I think would be reasonable, after all 3 years on the bottom would be a long time, and would think after that time sponsors and juniors may start to drop off ?
Also the actual make -up of the comps would be debated, as I think Katty, Strathy, Katunga, Jeriliderie, Blighty would all be able to put forward strong arguements for why they should be in the other comp. which I may have suggested ??
 
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Did consider the time frame before being forced and obviously if a system similar to this was put into place, it would be adjusted along the way as needed.
Think forcing clubs to elevate or relegate after 3 years I think would be reasonable, after all 3 years on the bottom would be a long time, and would think after that time sponsors and juniors may start to drop off ?
Also the actual make -up of the comps would be debated, as I think Katty, Strathy, Katunga, Jeriliderie, Blighty would all be able to put forward strong arguements for why they should be in the other comp. which I may have suggested ??


Here is one change. Put Jerilderie into comp 2 and grab another club from the KDFL, maybe violet town or someone to make up the 8 clubs in comp 1. Jeriliderie would be more suited into comp 2
 
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Here is one change. Put Jerilderie into comp 2 and grab another club from the KDFL, maybe violet town or someone to make up the 8 clubs in comp 1. Jeriliderie would be more suited into comp 2
:thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown: Watched the KDFL grand final last week and to be honest think Ardmona, who played off in it, would have struggled to make the PDFL 8.
Did obviously think of Jerilderie, but the comps. as I proposed means that Berrigan - Mathoura/Picola, Shepp East/Dookie-Jerilderie or Deni- Wunghnu would be the biggest trips, add Jerilderie into comp 2 and you automatically add a 2 hour trip for quite a few Picola and Mathoura players who live in or around Echuca, which would be similar to asking Deni to go to Voilet Town.
Am aware that in may end up happening but to start think it should be avoided if possible.
 
Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

Can not confirm as yet , as can not get onto our clubs delegates, but have heard elsewhere that up to 12 Rennie reps will, have attended tonights league meeting and a couple from the VCFL, a decision will not be made tonight, as a meeting is supposedly being scheduled for a couple of weeks to confirm the leagues decision, suggestion is quite a bit of bokering has been done , and Rennie will be in, come 2009 :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:.
Don't be surprised if a few get together to form a breakaway league with a few other interested neighbouring clubs ??;););)
Will keep informed as info comes to hand, if got any and don't want to post it, inform me via PM and I will continue to confidentially !!!
 
Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

Can not confirm as yet , as can not get onto our clubs delegates, but have heard elsewhere that up to 12 Rennie reps will, have attended tonights league meeting and a couple from the VCFL, a decision will not be made tonight, as a meeting is supposedly being scheduled for a couple of weeks to confirm the leagues decision, suggestion is quite a bit of bokering has been done , and Rennie will be in, come 2009 :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:.
Don't be surprised if a few get together to form a breakaway league with a few other interested neighbouring clubs ??;););)
Will keep informed as info comes to hand, if got any and don't want to post it, inform me via PM and I will continue to confidentially !!!

surely the league wouldnt be stupid enough to add another team to the comp, 17 teams in a district competition is way to many and most likely see the end of clubs that currently are stuggling (wunghu, yarra, mathoura)
 
Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

Can not confirm as yet , as can not get onto our clubs delegates, but have heard elsewhere that up to 12 Rennie reps will, have attended tonights league meeting and a couple from the VCFL, a decision will not be made tonight, as a meeting is supposedly being scheduled for a couple of weeks to confirm the leagues decision, suggestion is quite a bit of bokering has been done , and Rennie will be in, come 2009 :thumbsdown::thumbsdown::thumbsdown:.
Don't be surprised if a few get together to form a breakaway league with a few other interested neighbouring clubs ??;););)
Will keep informed as info comes to hand, if got any and don't want to post it, inform me via PM and I will continue to confidentially !!!

Didn't you get a gig at tonight's meetiing PTF? I thought you "spoke" for Mathoura.
 

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Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

surely the league wouldnt be stupid enough to add another team to the comp, 17 teams in a district competition is way to many and most likely see the end of clubs that currently are stuggling (wunghu, yarra, mathoura)

I would have thought that adding Rennie to make it 17 in the comp might mean that teams play each once only, and alternate venues each year. Throw the odd bye in there and it looks a good and fair comp (as opposed to this year's bullsh!t system of just a few teams getting to play each other twice). Why is adding Rennie the end of those mentioned "struggling" clubs? Aren't they up sh!t creek regardless of whether Rennie come in or not? Are those clubs faltering because they have negative people like yourself (and Pace To Freeze) in them looking to criticise things instead of putting all their energies into improving their clubs?
 
Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

Didn't you get a gig at tonight's meetiing PTF? I thought you "spoke" for Mathoura.
Our club has two league delegates, as I believe all clubs within the league do, and rightfully so, those two attend league meetings as often as possible.
Who said I spoke for Mathoura, just because I give my opinion doesn't mean that it is necessarily the opinion of the club nor am I pretending to represent the club.:D:D
Are your posts representively of ,and on behalf of, Rennie ??
 
Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

I would have thought that adding Rennie to make it 17 in the comp might mean that teams play each once only, and alternate venues each year. Throw the odd bye in there and it looks a good and fair comp (as opposed to this year's bullsh!t system of just a few teams getting to play each other twice). Why is adding Rennie the end of those mentioned "struggling" clubs? Aren't they up sh!t creek regardless of whether Rennie come in or not? Are those clubs faltering because they have negative people like yourself (and Pace To Freeze) in them looking to criticise things instead of putting all their energies into improving their clubs?

Well you may have thought wrong ?
Can I suggest you do some research, including going back through this board.
By the way think your cause might be helped by not bagging, defaming clubs already within the league, afterall they all get to vote.:confused::confused:
Assume you do not know fellow posters or the extent of their input into their clubs, yet you are questioning their input into their clubs.:confused::confused:
 
Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

Just a few comments and questions to Pacetofreeze and (others) - why (as a moderator) were you looking to move all comments about changes to the league to the other thread and yet you are still generating posts about this very subject on this thread?

Can anyone actually give an answer to the Grenade or Stomp as to why some of the said clubs will fall over if Rennie come into the PDFL? It's a fairly simple question.

Pacetofreeze you have a shot at Stomp over supposedly defaming the said clubs and doing his (or his club's) cause no good. How is he defaming those clubs any worse than you or TTTT when you are indicating they're buggered if Rennie come in? Are you just trying to discredit any comment from anyone connected to Rennie?

Are you not defaming the PDFL (and doing the credibility and cause of your club harm) by your suggestions that moves may be afoot regarding a breakaway league? I know for a fact that people high up in the PDFL read this thread. Although they usually take little notice of some of the comments on here I'm sure they will be sitting up and taking note of this.
 
Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

1.Just a few comments and questions to Pacetofreeze and (others) - why (as a moderator) were you looking to move all comments about changes to the league to the other thread and yet you are still generating posts about this very subject on this thread?

2. Can anyone actually give an answer to the Grenade or Stomp as to why some of the said clubs will fall over if Rennie come into the PDFL? It's a fairly simple question.

3. Pacetofreeze you have a shot at Stomp over supposedly defaming the said clubs and doing his (or his club's) cause no good. How is he defaming those clubs any worse than you or TTTT when you are indicating they're buggered if Rennie come in?
4. Are you just trying to discredit any comment from anyone connected to Rennie?
5. Are you not defaming the PDFL (and doing the credibility and cause of your club harm) by your suggestions that moves may be afoot regarding a breakaway league? I know for a fact that people high up in the PDFL read this thread. Although they usually take little notice of some of the comments on here I'm sure they will be sitting up and taking note of this.

Righto to answer these questions solely from my point of view, if they're not answered to your satisifaction please feel free to ask for further clarification.
1. Recently posts have been made upon this site and after a couple of days they have been moved to the other thread.
2. I have not been told officially the position of any other sides, however people, includes coaches and administrators, from a number of other clubs have anonymously indicated to me that players have indicated leaving if Rennie is included within the league. From my point of few I personally think quite a few players, and admittedly only from my personal conversations, would choose to play elsewhere if we continue to extend the distance we are asking our players to travel as there is a number of options available to Shepp or Echuca based players with a lot less travelling .
3. Stomp has indicated that clubs may be in trouble no matter what happens, which I strongly deny, its an opinion and do not think I have stated individual clubs that may be affected if Rennie join.
4. No I am not trying to dis-credit any comment from anyone from Rennie and actually after reading there proposal, which I beleive was well presented, I think they make two very clear points for there reason for wanting to leave, which may also be the same reasons that some of the older PDFL have apprehension of them joining the league.
quote " The majority of our junior players attend schools in Yarrawonga and Mulwala, mixing daily with other youths from the PDFL teams "
Agreed some of the newer clubs may have a connection to Yarrawonga and Mulwala but I believe the older clubs don't.
quote " With the increasing cost of fuel, the extra travel involved in the Hume League has put additional financial pressure on already many struggling families "
Think it has been quite evident amongst a lot of the current PDFL clubs this season that a number of people tend not travel over long distances to play sport.
5. My views posted upon here have always been exactly that, my views, if you didn't notice the so-called moves afoot for a breakaway league were not confirmed by my club,hence the words don't be surprised, and just maybe it was indicated by others, and can I just say the club I represent, still refuses to confirm such suggestions.
So how is that going to affect my clubs credability, it was clearly indicated that I could not get onto my club to confirm when intially posted ??
Also it is not the first time that a breakaway league has been mentioned upon this board.
There is a number of people upon here who post anonymously and are more than welcome to do so , it is a public forum which offers that, furthermore there are a number who pass on information to me who wish it to be posted anonymously, hence the quite often words in my posts, apparently, my information, don't be surprised and the like.
Would think those, as you described them , high up, would want to know, and encourage, the open discussion of rumours, or matters which may be circling and involve the league, afterall why would they want them hidden ??
Finally , there are a number of scenario's, rumours, known facts, accusations, that are removed or not placed upon this forum as they are deemed to be of no interest other than for the purpose of defaming the league, clubs or individuals.
 
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just heard from some sources that rennie are definately in? if so does that mean with 17 teams that we'd be having a 16 round season with 1 or 2 byes so that everyone only plays each other once? what was rennie's form like on & off field in they're old league? & is this really a smart thought out move or is it just a quick slap together fix by the vcfl & etc so they dont have to deal with it??? is rennie really a part of picola's district?? dont think so!!! guess we're stuck with them now!!! :thumbsdown:
 

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thy arnt that good

"thy arnt that good ......"

You're from Tungamah aren't you. Let's have a think about your statement .... now, you're from TUNGAMAH aren't you .... hows your spelling??? grammar??? How are you going at school? Okay?

That's the 3rd or 4th really stupid statement from you regarding Rennie. Couldn't you get a game out there or something? Stick to the Under 17's thread little fella.
 
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just heard from some sources that rennie are definately in? if so does that mean with 17 teams that we'd be having a 16 round season with 1 or 2 byes so that everyone only plays each other once? what was rennie's form like on & off field in they're old league? & is this really a smart thought out move or is it just a quick slap together fix by the vcfl & etc so they dont have to deal with it??? is rennie really a part of picola's district?? dont think so!!! guess we're stuck with them now!!! :thumbsdown:

Word is - 16 round season. Rennie a top club on and off (I'm biased). Tell me, what clubs are (and are not) part of the Picola District? Geographically, what clubs should and should not be part of the PDFL? And based on your answers, should the league be called the PDFL or something else? For example. what the hell are some of the outlying clubs (i.e Shep East, Tuga, Jerilderie, Rovers, want me to keep going?) doing in the PDFL if you are so uptight about who is in the Picola League?
 
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Word is - 16 round season. Rennie a top club on and off (I'm biased). Tell me, what clubs are (and are not) part of the Picola District? Geographically, what clubs should and should not be part of the PDFL? And based on your answers, should the league be called the PDFL or something else? For example. what the hell are some of the outlying clubs (i.e Shep East, Tuga, Jerilderie, Rovers, want me to keep going?) doing in the PDFL if you are so uptight about who is in the Picola League?

A bit of info based on Geographic, before Berrigan joined the PDFL Tungamah was the only club more than 65 klms directly from Picola. All of the inclusion's since have been outside that distance. Interestingly 5 clubs which play in the KDFL, a similar standard to the PDFL are inside that distance Undera, Gig, Merrigum , Lancaster and Tally , and Stanhope are 67klms from Picola.

So the clubs outside the 65klms now in comp., or officially trying to get in, would be Tungamah, Berrigan, Dookie, Shepp East,Jeriliderie and Rennie.
 
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So the clubs outside the 65klms now in comp., or officially trying to get in, would be Tungamah, Berrigan, Dookie, Shepp East,Jeriliderie and Rennie.

Thanks. Do you think that the PDFL is expanding in the wrong direction (geographically) and should be heading towards taking in the KDFL Clubs instead?
 
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So it is 17 teams now! Surely it can be split into two more workable groups.

Bite the bullet!

Here is my latest attempt:

Using a bit of 2008 Ladder position and a bit of where they lay on a map.

Tungamah, Katandra, Waaia, Dookie United, Katunga, Strathmerton, Shepp East, Katamatite

Deni Rovers, Blighty, Jerilderie, Picola United, Berrigan, Mathoura, Yarroweyah, Wunghnu, Rennie

Or at least run it as a trial for one season, then reassess. If this years top 8 were to just form a split comp, Deni would not get to play any neighbours.
 

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