2008 PDFL split

[GrassKat]

Re: MFL/PDFL 3 Division System

Yeah, Murray League forum.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Re: MFL/PDFL 3 Division System

Well I know it has been put on the table before, but beleive there is being a bit of noise being made for a Echuca District League to be reformed.

Possible Clubs
Rovers
Mathoura
Leitchville-Gunbower
LBU
Moama
United
Koondrook
Cohuna
Pyramid Hill


If all the clubs agree and the current leagues would agree the comp will happen, if my info's correct might be sooner rather than later as most are in agreeance ???

 

[Hand Grenade]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

G'day PDFL people. I am connected to the Rennie FC. Rumours flying around our club are of an unofficial approach to us to consider joining a Northern Picola League (predominantly NSW with a few clubs just over the river into VIC). This is a very attractive proposition to us - most of our players are drawn from Yarrawonga/Mulwala, and we are not enjoying the Hume League (travel, the floggings, being unwelcome, etc). For those posters who have intimated that we are not strong, well we'd back ourselves to match maybe beat Jerilderie and Berrigan so you be the judge of where we're at against the rest of you. We have no problems fielding teams in the 2nds, 3rds and 4ths either. We don't believe that the NSWAFL are being proactive enough in addressing the issues facing a number of NSW Clubs and believe that for survival, we have to find a viable competition ourselves.

There's some info on our situation anyway. I'd be interested to hear what any of you might know or think about this proposed Northern PDFL?

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

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G'day PDFL people. I am connected to the Rennie FC. Rumours flying around our club are of an unofficial approach to us to consider joining a Northern Picola League (predominantly NSW with a few clubs just over the river into VIC). This is a very attractive proposition to us - most of our players are drawn from Yarrawonga/Mulwala, and we are not enjoying the Hume League (travel, the floggings, being unwelcome, etc). For those posters who have intimated that we are not strong, well we'd back ourselves to match maybe beat Jerilderie and Berrigan so you be the judge of where we're at against the rest of you. We have no problems fielding teams in the 2nds, 3rds and 4ths either. We don't believe that the NSWAFL are being proactive enough in addressing the issues facing a number of NSW Clubs and believe that for survival, we have to find a viable competition ourselves. There's some info on our situation anyway. I'd be interested to hear what any of you might know or think about this proposed Northern PDFL?

Hand Grenade in case you don't know I'm connected with Mathoura and being the most western club, yet in NSW , the option of creating a NSW club based competition is not welcolmed, reasons being that the introduction of the eastern clubs , Berrigan, Jerilderie, Dookie and now the proposal of yourselves signinficantly increases travel which has been found to deter players from playing within this league and juniors playing at all significantly. In saying that it has been indicated that the VCFL certainly has this upon their minds.
This option has been discussed at some length within this board and the most significant factors agreed by most that the league needs to address are :
- Decrease travel
- Decrease the amount of clubs within one comp.
- Try to place sides with similar populations and playing drawing population within the same comp.

I don't want to see the league head further east/north and think Picola should have remained as the geometrical centre of the league, and perhaps further investigation should have been made before some recent changes / introductions, which has seen the league move further east / north but hey I am completely biased, no doubt about it.
Given that all the recent additions have been well east of the leagues previous boundary, Tunga is exception, maybe they should have considered a league for all those clubs, especially given that your league and the Benalla and District don't really have enough clubs within them ???

 

[Hand Grenade]

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Pace to Freeze, good and interesting to read your reply. On the Benalla & District comp, that was considered by Rennie a few years back. But there are teams in that comp a very long way to our south (don't even know where exactly they are!), we don't believe those southern clubs want to travel up to us, and thirdly, we felt that comp was headed in the direction of the old CDFL - not far off folding.

Understand your concerns with Mathoura to the west and not wanting any more travel to the east and north. Our problem is that the Hume League clubs dont want us because we are too far west!!! Ideally, we would have loved to have expanded the old CDFL comp by adding the likes of Berrigan and Blighty. But we have/had no right to do that or expect those clubs to come to us. I wouldn't think we add too much to your travel (compared to Berrigan and Tunga) but it is fair old hike from Rennie to Mathoura.

Our situation is this: the HFL President has already (unofficially) advised us to look west (a nice way of saying piss off). The top clubs in that comp are too big - we can't compete with them and will lose players if they have to face up to floggings like that in the future. We see a lot of clubs in the PDFL potentially at the same level in size and standard - we want to play like minded and similar sized district clubs. We want to play in an even comp that we might at some stage see some hope of building up and having a crack at a flag before bottoming out again - a fair cycle for clubs in an even comp. We feel that we are not in a position to dictate terms on the structure of any new competition/s, but have decided to take a proactive approach by looking towards your comp (or at least some of your current comp) to ensure the ongoing future of our great little club.

We'll see what happens eh? In the meantime, good luck to your club for 2008 and beyond.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

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Pace to Freeze, good and interesting to read your reply. On the Benalla & District comp, that was considered by Rennie a few years back. But there are teams in that comp a very long way to our south (don't even know where exactly they are!), we don't believe those southern clubs want to travel up to us, and thirdly, we felt that comp was headed in the direction of the old CDFL - not far off folding.

Understand your concerns with Mathoura to the west and not wanting any more travel to the east and north. Our problem is that the Hume League clubs dont want us because we are too far west!!! Ideally, we would have loved to have expanded the old CDFL comp by adding the likes of Berrigan and Blighty. But we have/had no right to do that or expect those clubs to come to us. I wouldn't think we add too much to your travel (compared to Berrigan and Tunga) but it is fair old hike from Rennie to Mathoura.

Our situation is this: the HFL President has already (unofficially) advised us to look west (a nice way of saying piss off). The top clubs in that comp are too big - we can't compete with them and will lose players if they have to face up to floggings like that in the future. We see a lot of clubs in the PDFL potentially at the same level in size and standard - we want to play like minded and similar sized district clubs. We want to play in an even comp that we might at some stage see some hope of building up and having a crack at a flag before bottoming out again - a fair cycle for clubs in an even comp. We feel that we are not in a position to dictate terms on the structure of any new competition/s, but have decided to take a proactive approach by looking towards your comp (or at least some of your current comp) to ensure the ongoing future of our great little club.

We'll see what happens eh? In the meantime, good luck to your club for 2008 and beyond.

I appreciate your situation Grenade, but hopefully you can understand the recent inclusions have done to our club, and those in a similar situation, exactly what you have indicated you don't want top happen to your club. ie playing against clubs from major towns and increased travel , which has affected our junior numbers, so much to the stage that the past two years have been a real struggle with numbers, in the u17's and this season we have failed to be able to get enough numbers to play an u17's side.

For us the last 4 inclusions into the league, Dookie, Shepp East, Berrigan and Jerilderie are all now over an hours trek at least and are within the five furtherest clubs we have to travel to. I guess it does not help when over the past 2 seasons we've played at Dookie 3 times, Shepp East twice, yet they have both only played at Mathoura once and this year our only game with Jerilderie is away, Berrigan I think is about right ???

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

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Hey Grenade what would you think of this comp. do you think you would be competitive.

Comp 1
Rovers, Blighty, Mathoura, Picola, Katunga, Yarraweah, Strathy, Wunghnu , Katty

Comp 2
Berrigan, Shepp East, Katandra, Dookie, Waaia, Rennie, Tungamah, Billabong Crows, Jerilderie,


With you guys now showing what was already predicticted as an interest in joining our leagues clubs in a comp. would the Billabong Crows also. Iwantanotherflag and intimidator what are your thoughts on all this , based solely on forming two comps within the pdfl plus Rennie and Billabong Crows, especially with travel in mind ??

 

[Hand Grenade]

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Hey Grenade what would you think of this comp. do you think you would be competitive.

Comp 1
Rovers, Blighty, Mathoura, Picola, Katunga, Yarraweah, Strathy, Wunghnu , Katty

Comp 2
Berrigan, Shepp East, Katandra, Dookie, Waaia, Rennie, Tungamah, Billabong Crows, Jerilderie,

?

Hard to say ptf. Don't know much about Shepp E, Katandra or Dookie. I do know that those clubs would probably go off their **** about travelling up to Oaklands or even worse, Urana (Crows). Wouldn't you (as Mathoura) prefer travelling to Waaia instead of Katamatite which is just down the road from most of us at Yarra/Mul? You don't like any travel over an hour - there's some 2 hour trips in comp 2. However, Rennie are in no position to dictate terms so I guess we would have to look at what was put on the table. On current form I could only see us beating Berrigan and Jerilderie but a good comp is all about cycles isn't it so we might at least have a chance to build up and be competitive which is not the case in the HFL.

A word of warning on Billabong Crows though. It is a merger which is not working. In recent months a number of Oaklands people have approached Rennie on the quiet seeking a merger, and disbanding their link with Urana. Rennie want no part of it or them. A lot of their players are good blokes (like anywhere else) but as a club they are very difficult to deal with. The PDFL would want to be careful in dealing with them and they have a recent history of burning you.

 

[theintimidator]

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Hey Grenade what would you think of this comp. do you think you would be competitive.

Comp 1
Rovers, Blighty, Mathoura, Picola, Katunga, Yarraweah, Strathy, Wunghnu , Katty

Comp 2
Berrigan, Shepp East, Katandra, Dookie, Waaia, Rennie, Tungamah, Billabong Crows, Jerilderie,


With you guys now showing what was already predicticted as an interest in joining our leagues clubs in a comp. would the Billabong Crows also. Iwantanotherflag and intimidator what are your thoughts on all this , based solely on forming two comps within the pdfl plus Rennie and Billabong Crows, especially with travel in mind ??

Initially I laughed at your attempt to break the league into 2 .... I looked at some of the choices you have made such as putting berrigan in comp 2 who would have to drive through katamatite (comp 1) to play shepp east and thought it was a ridiculous set up....

Then I tried myself and realised just how hard it would be slit this wide reaching league into 2 comps with roughly the same numbers while keeping everone happy. I plotted all the towns on a map, I made measurments, drew lines from the most northerly to the most southerly and likewise east to west. I jotted down about 5 different options and all of them made no sense at the end of the day. The real trouble came from the most northerly clubs. Deni, Blighty, Berrigan, Jerrilderie and the proposed Rennie. These clubs made the split extremely hard as the most obvious split seems to be along the lines of a nsw and vic comp but to keep the numbers close to even some vic teams i:e strathy, yarroweyah and katunga would most likly have to go in the northern comp. I for one would not support that move and I know our club would not. In conclusion it can not be done while keeping everyone happy!!!!

 

[theintimidator]

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Pace to Freeze, good and interesting to read your reply. On the Benalla & District comp, that was considered by Rennie a few years back. But there are teams in that comp a very long way to our south (don't even know where exactly they are!), we don't believe those southern clubs want to travel up to us, and thirdly, we felt that comp was headed in the direction of the old CDFL - not far off folding.

Understand your concerns with Mathoura to the west and not wanting any more travel to the east and north. Our problem is that the Hume League clubs dont want us because we are too far west!!! Ideally, we would have loved to have expanded the old CDFL comp by adding the likes of Berrigan and Blighty. But we have/had no right to do that or expect those clubs to come to us. I wouldn't think we add too much to your travel (compared to Berrigan and Tunga) but it is fair old hike from Rennie to Mathoura.

Our situation is this: the HFL President has already (unofficially) advised us to look west (a nice way of saying piss off). The top clubs in that comp are too big - we can't compete with them and will lose players if they have to face up to floggings like that in the future. We see a lot of clubs in the PDFL potentially at the same level in size and standard - we want to play like minded and similar sized district clubs. We want to play in an even comp that we might at some stage see some hope of building up and having a crack at a flag before bottoming out again - a fair cycle for clubs in an even comp. We feel that we are not in a position to dictate terms on the structure of any new competition/s, but have decided to take a proactive approach by looking towards your comp (or at least some of your current comp) to ensure the ongoing future of our great little club.

We'll see what happens eh? In the meantime, good luck to your club for 2008 and beyond.

Hand Grenade. Im not sure how far back you have read in this forum but I have floated an idea of spliting the leauge into 2 divisions based on standard with the possibility of promotion/relegation between the 2 divisions.

Do you beleive your club would be more viable in the long run in a second division PDFL where they may have to travel further occationally but be competitve against most clubs OR do you beleive limiting travel is a bigger
concern in keeping players?

I persoanlly would prefer to travel 1.5 hrs for a win than 20 min to get pumped!

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

Hey Grenade what would you think of this comp. do you think you would be competitive.

Comp 1
Rovers, Blighty, Mathoura, Picola, Katunga, Yarraweah, Strathy, Wunghnu , Katty

Comp 2
Berrigan, Shepp East, Katandra, Dookie, Waaia, Rennie, Tungamah, Billabong Crows, Jerilderie,


With you guys now showing what was already predicticted as an interest in joining our leagues clubs in a comp. would the Billabong Crows also. Iwantanotherflag and intimidator what are your thoughts on all this , based solely on forming two comps within the pdfl plus Rennie and Billabong Crows, especially with travel in mind ??

Hand Grenade. Im not sure how far back you have read in this forum but I have floated an idea of spliting the leauge into 2 divisions based on standard with the possibility of promotion/relegation between the 2 divisions.

Do you beleive your club would be more viable in the long run in a second division PDFL where they may have to travel further occationally but be competitve against most clubs OR do you beleive limiting travel is a bigger
concern in keeping players?

I persoanlly would prefer to travel 1.5 hrs for a win than 20 min to get pumped!

The other difficulty you also get is that there have predominately been 3 power sides in the PDFL over the past 10 years, Tunga, Katandra and Waaia, whilst Shepp East and Dookie also appear on their way to that group. Which makes 5 , Berrigan have recently come down from the MFL appear back on track, especially with the strength of their juniors , so that could make 6. The rest over the past 10 years, at least , have had little cracks but been unable to sustain it over a long period of time. Realistically each comp would need minimum of 8 sides ??? We have not played Jeriliderie so know nothing of whether they have the potential to compete against these sides, nor do I know anything of Rennie , Billabong crows.

 

[Hand Grenade]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

Hand Grenade. Im not sure how far back you have read in this forum but I have floated an idea of spliting the leauge into 2 divisions based on standard with the possibility of promotion/relegation between the 2 divisions.

Do you beleive your club would be more viable in the long run in a second division PDFL where they may have to travel further occationally but be competitve against most clubs OR do you beleive limiting travel is a bigger
concern in keeping players?

I persoanlly would prefer to travel 1.5 hrs for a win than 20 min to get pumped!

That is a very good question which applies not only to my club, but many others. I think most importantly my club (Rennie) is looking to play similarly sized and standard clubs. We want to play in a comp where there are no power ($) clubs that you know year in year out will win the flag because they can buy in the quality imports and draw upon a much larger population. We want a comp with cycles - you can bottom out and play the kids but if you build up nicely, keep your players, get a good coach and top up with a few quality players then you can at least have a shot. A bit like the AFL thanks to the draft (where the 2000 GF teams the Dees and Dons and now at the bottom thansk to that cycle). Pie in the sky stuff maybe.

Rennie people miss the simplicity of the Coreen League where most clubs were a short drive away, they were neighbours (related in some cases) and the comp was even enough. While those days are probably gone, we would love to see something along the lines of some clubs from the PDFL coming into a comp with the old Coreen League clubs. Call the comp whatever you like. We want to play our near neighbours. I also think that the old CDFL Clubs would be evenly matched with a number of your PDFL Clubs north of the border.

But if we can't, we want to play clubs at a similar standard and if we have to travel a bit more than so be it. I believe that the players are mainly concerned with the travel factor. I think that the people running the clubs (committee) see the bigger picture (or they should) and would prefer a more even comp because it is a battle to recruit and maintain players in good numbers if they are going to get pumped year in year out.

As an older bloke I would prefer to travel a bit further and play in a more even comp. That is why I like the sound of your 2 division relegation/promotion proposal. But I am only expressing my opinion on all of this - the Rennie Committee may come back with something else.

I must say though that one of your clubs approached us to consider coming across. However, we are very open to it. Although all clubs are not going to happy with any proposed changes to your comp, obviously something isn't quite right or some clubs aren't happy with the current structure?

 

[theintimidator]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

That is a very good question which applies not only to my club, but many others. I think most importantly my club (Rennie) is looking to play similarly sized and standard clubs. We want to play in a comp where there are no power ($) clubs that you know year in year out will win the flag because they can buy in the quality imports and draw upon a much larger population. We want a comp with cycles - you can bottom out and play the kids but if you build up nicely, keep your players, get a good coach and top up with a few quality players then you can at least have a shot. A bit like the AFL thanks to the draft (where the 2000 GF teams the Dees and Dons and now at the bottom thansk to that cycle). Pie in the sky stuff maybe.

Rennie people miss the simplicity of the Coreen League where most clubs were a short drive away, they were neighbours (related in some cases) and the comp was even enough. While those days are probably gone, we would love to see something along the lines of some clubs from the PDFL coming into a comp with the old Coreen League clubs. Call the comp whatever you like. We want to play our near neighbours. I also think that the old CDFL Clubs would be evenly matched with a number of your PDFL Clubs north of the border.

But if we can't, we want to play clubs at a similar standard and if we have to travel a bit more than so be it. I believe that the players are mainly concerned with the travel factor. I think that the people running the clubs (committee) see the bigger picture (or they should) and would prefer a more even comp because it is a battle to recruit and maintain players in good numbers if they are going to get pumped year in year out.

As an older bloke I would prefer to travel a bit further and play in a more even comp. That is why I like the sound of your 2 division relegation/promotion proposal. But I am only expressing my opinion on all of this - the Rennie Committee may come back with something else.

I must say though that one of your clubs approached us to consider coming across. However, we are very open to it. Although all clubs are not going to happy with any proposed changes to your comp, obviously something isn't quite right or some clubs aren't happy with the current structure?[/quote]


I quess its a good problem to have too many clubs when many leagues are struggling. I think this whole idea of PDFL re-structure was re-iggnited when the unevenness of a 16 side 18 round season was pointed out when the draw was announced. Some team drew to play 3 traditionnally strong teams twice and some drew 3 traditionally weak teams. The impact of this can be seen by shepp easts start to the season. All in all I believe the PDFL is going pretty well this year and I'm sorry to say HG but if it was put to the clubs weather rennie were to join the league I beleive the answer would be an over-whelming NO! However it seems the VCFL are consulting the clubs less and less these days!

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

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Finally compiled a bit of info re-distances travelled by clubs within the PDFL. Info is klms travelled to every other club within the league based on where is, does not include Blighty as where is could not find it.

Rovers 1639.9
mathoura 1502.6
jerilderie 1501.7
berrigan 1140.6
dookie 1093.8
shepp east 1055.3
tungamah 944.0
katandra 925.0
picola 900.9
waaia 780.8
wunghnu 745.0
strathmerton 723.0
yarroweyah 720.4
kattamatite 710.0
katunga 676.0

The 3 longest treks are : Rovers - Dookie 179.8 klms, Rovers - Shepp East 166.7 klms, and Rovers - Katandra 161.8 klms.

 

[Doobie Renshaw]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

I'm hearing whispers of a northern and southern Picola Leage, Northern comp including Mathoura, Deni, Blighty, Jerilderie, Berrigan, Rennie, Billabong, Coleambally, Hay and Finley (as real possibilities), plus some PDFL clubs just over the river in VIC such as Yarroweyah & Strathy.

Thoughts anyone?

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Re: PDFL U/17's

Heard a recent whisper, which I might be able to confirm next week which will reflect on a number of PDFL matters, will announce on the main thread if not done by some body else. Cheers

 

[theintimidator]

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Finally compiled a bit of info re-distances travelled by clubs within the PDFL. Info is klms travelled to every other club within the league based on where is, does not include Blighty as where is could not find it.

Rovers 1639.9
mathoura 1502.6
jerilderie 1501.7
berrigan 1140.6
dookie 1093.8
shepp east 1055.3
tungamah 944.0
katandra 925.0
picola 900.9
waaia 780.8
wunghnu 745.0
strathmerton 723.0
yarroweyah 720.4
kattamatite 710.0
katunga 676.0

The 3 longest treks are : Rovers - Dookie 179.8 klms, Rovers - Shepp East 166.7 klms, and Rovers - Katandra 161.8 klms.

Wow good work I'm impressed. You must have a lot of spare time must of taken hours!

 

[theintimidator]

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I'm hearing whispers of a northern and southern Picola Leage, Northern comp including Mathoura, Deni, Blighty, Jerilderie, Berrigan, Rennie, Billabong, Coleambally, Hay and Finley (as real possibilities), plus some PDFL clubs just over the river in VIC such as Yarroweyah & Strathy.

Thoughts anyone?

I beleive it's I good idea on the whole, one that has been mentioned a few times before, but the proposed VIC clubs i:e strathy and yarroweyah would certainly demand to play in the VIC leauge. I could see clubs such as Finley, Deni, Berrigan and maybe Jerrilderie dominating on a regular basis due to the size of their towns?

 

[GrassKat]

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Mathoura, Deni, Blighty, Jerilderie, Berrigan, Rennie, Billabong, Coleambally, Hay and Finley (10 teams)

If you had that group of teams together you wouldn't need any Victorian sides. 10 teams is the perfect comp size. 9 is pretty good too, everyone gets to play everyone twice. 8 teams could be also be managed, by playing a neighbouring rival 3 times for the year.

That would leave:

Dookie United, Katandra, Katamatite, Katunga, Picola United, Yarroweyah, Wunghnu, Shepp East, Strathmerton, Tungamah, Waaia. (11 teams)

Yep, its decided go with that plan for 2009, no need for any further debate

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

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Mathoura, Deni, Blighty, Jerilderie, Berrigan, Rennie, Billabong, Coleambally, Hay and Finley (10 teams)

If you had that group of teams together you wouldn't need any Victorian sides. 10 teams is the perfect comp size. 9 is pretty good too, everyone gets to play everyone twice. 8 teams could be also be managed, by playing a neighbouring rival 3 times for the year.

That would leave:

Dookie United, Katandra, Katamatite, Katunga, Picola United, Yarroweyah, Wunghnu, Shepp East, Strathmerton, Tungamah, Waaia. (11 teams)

Yep, its decided go with that plan for 2009, no need for any further debate

Based on that Mathoura has one trip under 80 klms yet in the other comp no-one has to travel further than 80 klms ?

 

[themagicfrog]

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Mathoura, Deni, Blighty, Jerilderie, Berrigan, Rennie, Billabong, Coleambally, Hay and Finley (10 teams)

If you had that group of teams together you wouldn't need any Victorian sides. 10 teams is the perfect comp size. 9 is pretty good too, everyone gets to play everyone twice. 8 teams could be also be managed, by playing a neighbouring rival 3 times for the year.

That would leave:

Dookie United, Katandra, Katamatite, Katunga, Picola United, Yarroweyah, Wunghnu, Shepp East, Strathmerton, Tungamah, Waaia. (11 teams)

Yep, its decided go with that plan for 2009, no need for any further debate

Again please leave out Hay, No one wants to go there, and will Finley want to take that drop down, having a bad year this one but have the pop to recover.
But all in all I think it's on the right track as long as it stay a VCFL comp

 

[Charles Mac]

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mathoura, Deni, Blighty, Jerilderie, Berrigan, Rennie, Billabong, Coleambally, Hay And Finley (10 Teams)

If You Had That Group Of Teams Together You Wouldn't Need Any Victorian Sides. 10 Teams Is The Perfect Comp Size. 9 Is Pretty Good Too, Everyone Gets To Play Everyone Twice. 8 Teams Could Be Also Be Managed, By Playing A Neighbouring Rival 3 Times For The Year.

That Would Leave:

dookie United, Katandra, Katamatite, Katunga, Picola United, Yarroweyah, Wunghnu, Shepp East, Strathmerton, Tungamah, Waaia. (11 Teams)

Yep, Its Decided Go With That Plan For 2009, No Need For Any Further
Debate

No No No...

 

[Doobie Renshaw]

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Again please leave out Hay, No one wants to go there, and will Finley want to take that drop down, having a bad year this one but have the pop to recover.
But all in all I think it's on the right track as long as it stay a VCFL comp

A person from within NSWAFL told me this much (take it or leave it - don't know how influential he is or how accurate this is):

On Hay - They are applying pressure for Hay to be in a comp over to its south and east.

On Finley - They are waving the white flag and are looking at options in a "weaker" league.

On VCFL Competitions - They want NSW based clubs in NSW run competitions and are keen to enforce that in the future.

 

[theintimidator]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

Based on that Mathoura has one trip under 80 klms yet in the other comp no-one has to travel further than 80 klms ?

Unfortunatly P2F thats just mathouras bad choice for putting their town there.... No really as much as you might dislike the idea I think its one of the best yet and I believe it would have 100% support from the 11 victorian clubs. Mathoura are just geographicly dis-advantaged cant do much about it... maybe save up for a bus?

 

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Re: PDFL U/17's

Heard a recent whisper, which I might be able to confirm next week which will reflect on a number of PDFL matters, will announce on the main thread if not done by some body else. Cheers

What was the whisper P2F?

And Charles Mac - why the "No No No ..." ?