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2008 PDFL split

To change or not to change?

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With 16 teams in the PDFL and 15 in the Hume, I still think there is a need for a third league in the middle.
I know the CDFL is dead (and will be forever mourned) but 16 and 15 are simply too many and I'd like to see a Southern Riverina League formed with the following clubs:
Old CDFL: CDHBU, Rennie, Billabong Crows, Coleambally, Jerilderie
PDFL: Berrigan, Blighty, Deni Rovers
HFL: Rand-Walbundrie, BB Saints, Walla

I don't think it will happen, but there it is.
 
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Well I think it should be obvious that the NSW teams should stay in NSW and the Victorian temas should stay in Victoria. It shouldn't be the VCFL VICTORIAN COUNTRY FOOTBALL LEAGUE'S problem where these NSW teams are situated.
 

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Marto121 said:
Well I think it should be obvious that the NSW teams should stay in NSW and the Victorian temas should stay in Victoria. It shouldn't be the VCFL VICTORIAN COUNTRY FOOTBALL LEAGUE'S problem where these NSW teams are situated.
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Look I may be totally wrong but pretty sure the VCFL are not forced to continue with these clubs but want them and who said the NSW clubs are a problem ? A very selfish response which again does not assist all of the current PDFL clubs. When the PDFL was a 8-9 team comp 3 of those were NSW and had they not been in there the comp probably would not have existed !!!
 
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Marto121 said:
Well I think it should be obvious that the NSW teams should stay in NSW and the Victorian temas should stay in Victoria. It shouldn't be the VCFL VICTORIAN COUNTRY FOOTBALL LEAGUE'S problem where these NSW teams are situated.
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Maybe some of the clubs that are based in and close to Shepparton should take the step up to a higher league in which the other teams can compete with them financially year in year out. Maybe then that would at least solve some of the problems i.e. a more even competition.
 
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TrainerNo1 said:
Maybe some of the clubs that are based in and close to Shepparton should take the step up to a higher league in which the other teams can compete with them financially year in year out. Maybe then that would at least solve some of the problems i.e. a more even competition.
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Good post. There wernt too many problem in the PDFL 4-5 years ago. Maybe some clubs shouldnt try and dismantle or rearrange a league they have very little history with ????????
 
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TrainerNo1 said:
Maybe some of the clubs that are based in and close to Shepparton should take the step up to a higher league in which the other teams can compete with them financially year in year out. Maybe then that would at least solve some of the problems i.e. a more even competition.
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I'm interested in finding out which clubs you want to take a step up into a higher league. As all of the clubs in the PDFL are smaller towns with no til.

It has been said before, congupna should nearly come down a grade. Mayby even Finley or how about Cobram?? or are they a too bigger town?

Throwing something out there.
New league: Congupna, Tally, Cobram, Finley, Tungamah, Katamatite, Katandra, Dookie and Shepp East

Or leave Cobram and bring in either Violet Town or Rennie as they want in, or do you leave them with berrigan and Jerilderie.

But I do see a problem as per theimidator's post's on this thread.
 
Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

Charles Mac said:
Spoke to a blighty faithfull today to try and find out what went on. Apparently as Shep East left the ground the blighty crowd was giving them a fair bit a lip and one of the shep east players knocked a can out of a spectators hand starting the brawl. Apparently there were more women involved in the blue than blokes. As said in an earlier post each side will be blaming the other and this is just the mail from a blighty bloke. Unfortunatly these two teams wont meet again this year. If they did would be a good game to go and watch. Wonder what action if any the league will take.

Dont think Blighty being from NSW should have anything to do with it or the discussion. This NSW and VIC talk is all a load of sh$t IMO.
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It may be a load of sh$t, charles mac, but in the next few years as fuel prices continue to rise, and clubs find it harder to attract players, and as most of the clubs are in the area above Shepp, they may not want to continue to travel an hour or so up to NSW to play clubs whose spectators carry on like that. IMO :)
 
Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

bigbrother35 said:
It may be a load of sh$t, charles mac, but in the next few years as fuel prices continue to rise, and clubs find it harder to attract players, and as most of the clubs are in the area above Shepp, they may not want to continue to travel an hour or so up to NSW to play clubs whose spectators carry on like that. IMO :)
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What makes the Shepp based clubs think they have any right to discuss what makes our league and what is right and what isn't right for the PDFL, they have never experienced trully what the league is about and have shown no interest in embracing what a district comp. is about.
Two words clearly should make my point clear Picola District Football League.
Most clubs in the league want to remain as a district league and most are quite happy to play against the smaller sized town based clubs, against players who play footy on a volunteer basis and are happy to be involved in their local community.
The other option is for the Shepp based clubs to play in another comp. and leave our district comp. alone, after all we had a lot less problems 3 years ago ???
 
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pace to freeze said:
What makes the Shepp based clubs think they have any right to discuss what makes our league and what is right and what isn't right for the PDFL, they have never experienced trully what the league is about and have shown no interest in embracing what a district comp. is about.
Two words clearly should make my point clear Picola District Football League.
Most clubs in the league want to remain as a district league and most are quite happy to play against the smaller sized town based clubs, against players who play footy on a volunteer basis and are happy to be involved in their local community.
The other option is for the Shepp based clubs to play in another comp. and leave our district comp. alone, after all we had a lot less problems 3 years ago ???
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why do you want them to play in another comp so your club can start winning a few games. ha cant see that happening any time soon... winning football games that is :eek:
 
Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

Mathoura could well be a chance this week Drink Holder, with them taking on Yarroweyah....big game this for the timbercutters as they can jump up a spot on the ladder and get a game break on the Pies
 
Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

jetter18 said:
Mathoura could well be a chance this week Drink Holder, with them taking on Yarroweyah....big game this for the timbercutters as they can jump up a spot on the ladder and get a game break on the Pies
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Yeah thats true jetter they should get two wins for the season anyway :rolleyes:
 

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Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

Your response clearly proves my point Drlnk Holder you have absolutely no idea about district football or embraced it !!!
Believe it or not there is more to a football club than the success of your senior side, and district football clubs also play a greater role in the community than to field a successfull senior side !!!!
 
Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

bigbrother35 said:
It may be a load of sh$t, charles mac, but in the next few years as fuel prices continue to rise, and clubs find it harder to attract players, and as most of the clubs are in the area above Shepp, they may not want to continue to travel an hour or so up to NSW to play clubs whose spectators carry on like that. IMO :)
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You are proving my point bigbro. If you look at the sides that have a long history with the PDFL most of the travel is under 100km. The longer trips have only come into affect since the inclusion of Katandra, Tunga dookie and shep east. Dont get me wrong, the 4 clubs mentioned have done a great job strengthing the league but this is where all the travel talk comes from. The travel doesnt worry me personally. I would rather travel 1.5 hours and have a good game of footy than travel 15min and either give or get a flogging. My problem is that you are pushing the NSW clubs aside just because we are further away from "SHEP".
You are exactly right about attracting players. How are the NSW clubs suppose to attract players when all our travel is north. Alot of our kids go to uni in bendigo and melb. How do we get them to travel back then travel another hour north??
 
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pace to freeze said:
What makes the Shepp based clubs think they have any right to discuss what makes our league and what is right and what isn't right for the PDFL, they have never experienced trully what the league is about and have shown no interest in embracing what a district comp. is about.
Two words clearly should make my point clear Picola District Football League.
Most clubs in the league want to remain as a district league and most are quite happy to play against the smaller sized town based clubs, against players who play footy on a volunteer basis and are happy to be involved in their local community.
The other option is for the Shepp based clubs to play in another comp. and leave our district comp. alone, after all we had a lot less problems 3 years ago ???
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I think you have missed my point PTF, it is not that they do not want to embrace or be a part of a district comp, but twith the way clubs are struggling finaincially and a bleak outlook on the petrol front, it may be that some tough decisions will have to be made, wether that is that we split into two comps i do not know, but as a club out in a remote area like blighty that want to continue to have players come to play for them and against them they might want to encourage their supporters to greet their opponents with a smile rather then ungraciously giving it to them as they walk off the ground, that way footy is an enjoyable experience for all not something that will turn players away from our district comp.
 
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Charles Mac said:
You are proving my point bigbro. If you look at the sides that have a long history with the PDFL most of the travel is under 100km. The longer trips have only come into affect since the inclusion of Katandra, Tunga dookie and shep east. Dont get me wrong, the 4 clubs mentioned have done a great job strengthing the league but this is where all the travel talk comes from. The travel doesnt worry me personally. I would rather travel 1.5 hours and have a good game of footy than travel 15min and either give or get a flogging. My problem is that you are pushing the NSW clubs aside just because we are further away from "SHEP".
You are exactly right about attracting players. How are the NSW clubs suppose to attract players when all our travel is north. Alot of our kids go to uni in bendigo and melb. How do we get them to travel back then travel another hour north??
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I agree totally mac, you have touched on my main point, and that is that i also will travel as long as i have to, in order to have an enjoyable game of footy and a beer at the home club afterwards, that is what these remote clubs need to embrace, i am not pushing them away, but stating the fact that most of the player base is in the Shepp area, so financially the further you have to travel the less likely we are to attract players, No one travels in this league more than me, as i live in Sydney.
 
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bigbrother35 said:
I agree totally mac, you have touched on my main point, and that is that i also will travel as long as i have to, in order to have an enjoyable game of footy and a beer at the home club afterwards, that is what these remote clubs need to embrace, i am not pushing them away, but stating the fact that most of the player base is in the Shepp area, so financially the further you have to travel the less likely we are to attract players, No one travels in this league more than me, as i live in Sydney.
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Great effort. Although could make for a few big trips home. How many can trip on a sunday is it ???
The main reason i am not behind the NSW / Vic split is the standard of footy. If there was to be a split i feel that the standard of footy in the NSW comp would decline greatly over a few years. We (Deni) have a few locals that live in echuca that travel home each week to play, who i reckon would think twice if the league was to split into NSW /VIC. Victoria is the home of footy and i would hate to see us split from that.
 
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Big Wheel said:
I'm interested in finding out which clubs you want to take a step up into a higher league. As all of the clubs in the PDFL are smaller towns with no til.

It has been said before, congupna should nearly come down a grade. Mayby even Finley or how about Cobram?? or are they a too bigger town?

Throwing something out there.
New league: Congupna, Tally, Cobram, Finley, Tungamah, Katamatite, Katandra, Dookie and Shepp East

Or leave Cobram and bring in either Violet Town or Rennie as they want in, or do you leave them with berrigan and Jerilderie.

But I do see a problem as per theimidator's post's on this thread.
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Which one, Please explain?
 

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Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

pace to freeze said:
Your response clearly proves my point Drlnk Holder you have absolutely no idea about district football or embraced it !!!
Believe it or not there is more to a football club than the success of your senior side, and district football clubs also play a greater role in the community than to field a successfull senior side !!!!
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I much prefered your un-edited post!!! :D
 
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Charles Mac said:
You are proving my point bigbro. If you look at the sides that have a long history with the PDFL most of the travel is under 100km. The longer trips have only come into affect since the inclusion of Katandra, Tunga dookie and shep east. Dont get me wrong, the 4 clubs mentioned have done a great job strengthing the league but this is where all the travel talk comes from. The travel doesnt worry me personally. I would rather travel 1.5 hours and have a good game of footy than travel 15min and either give or get a flogging. My problem is that you are pushing the NSW clubs aside just because we are further away from "SHEP".
You are exactly right about attracting players. How are the NSW clubs suppose to attract players when all our travel is north. Alot of our kids go to uni in bendigo and melb. How do we get them to travel back then travel another hour north??
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It depends on were you are. For the clubs in the core of the leauge i:e Strathy, Katunga, Yarroweyah, Wunghu, Waaia, Picola and even Katty. I would say that the travel to Katandra, Tunga, Dookie and SE is a much prefered prospect then the travel to Jerrilderie, Blighty, Berrigan, Deni and Mathoura. I dont know if its a physcological thing or not but the trips north of the river always seem the furtherest even though they are comparable to some of the vic trips. Maybe thats just me. What I dont like is the idea that clubs that have been in the league longer should have more ownership of the leauge. This leauge has continually changed over the years with clubs coming and going and there was a time (up untill 1969) that there were NO NSW teams at all. I invite all to check out the following link to see just how much the leauge has changed over the years,. Cheers

http://www.footypedia.com/00001714.htm
 
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theintimidator said:
It depends on were you are. For the clubs in the core of the leauge i:e Strathy, Katunga, Yarroweyah, Wunghu, Waaia, Picola and even Katty. I would say that the travel to Katandra, Tunga, Dookie and SE is a much prefered prospect then the travel to Jerrilderie, Blighty, Berrigan, Deni and Mathoura. I dont know if its a physcological thing or not but the trips north of the river always seem the furtherest even though they are comparable to some of the vic trips. Maybe thats just me. What I dont like is the idea that clubs that have been in the league longer should have more ownership of the leauge. This leauge has continually changed over the years with clubs coming and going and there was a time (up untill 1969) that there were NO NSW teams at all. I invite all to check out the following link to see just how much the leauge has changed over the years,. Cheers

http://www.footypedia.com/00001714.htm
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Good points. The question has to be asked of these middle sides as i feel they are the ones that will influence how the league will pan out. Would they prefer to have the NSW clubs in the league and be able to compete year in and year out with a fairly even comp. or would they rather have less travel and keep the shep based sides in but find it hard to compete every year. The shep based sides will be competitive year in year out, as they have a greater pool of player to choose from. THe others dont. Take Deni for instance, all local players except for Andrew May (who workes and lives in Deni anyway) and Gerard Robinson. For us to be competitive we need to recruit from out of town (very hard) or wait until players move to town. There is no correct answer, i think we just need to look at footy in the region as a whole and see whats best.
 
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Big Wheel said:
The ones were you state, it would be harder for you to recruit players to your club, when (if) there is a league closer to shepp .i.e old tungamah league.
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Yeah I quess there is only a certain amount of quality players to go around and any of these players would be seriously factoring in their travelling costs when being approached by prospective clubs. I think bigbrother35 made good reference to it on the main thread that some of the clubs with the most travelling to do are going to find it harder and harder as cost of travell continues to skyrocket. Already I can see people in our clubs habbits changing. Years ago you could catch a lift to an away game and jump in any car for a lift home if you were left behind to have a few beers. Now it can be pretty hard to find a seat cause more and more people are car pooling to away games! Its only going to get worse!
 
Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

Charles Mac said:
Good points. The question has to be asked of these middle sides as i feel they are the ones that will influence how the league will pan out. Would they prefer to have the NSW clubs in the league and be able to compete year in and year out with a fairly even comp. or would they rather have less travel and keep the shep based sides in but find it hard to compete every year. The shep based sides will be competitive year in year out, as they have a greater pool of player to choose from. THe others dont. Take Deni for instance, all local players except for Andrew May (who workes and lives in Deni anyway) and Gerard Robinson. For us to be competitive we need to recruit from out of town (very hard) or wait until players move to town. There is no correct answer, i think we just need to look at footy in the region as a whole and see whats best.
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I think the only side truly advantaged by its location is Shepp East. And before you all point out their ladder possition I am talking about the whole club, Juniors and all. Sould be in the murray league.

Dookie - Still quite a travel from shepp probably 30 min (sh!t roads)
I believe that dookie success is attributed to good recruiting sparked by the appointment of a "draw card" coach (thats you quinten!) but could easily slip back out of the 8 with the loss of 5-6 key out of towners.

Katandra 20 mins from shepp is 95% local. In fact I reckon that Katandra has produced more talent that has left the club to play in higher leagues than it has recruited from outsiders.

Tungamah 45 min from shepp more likely to recruit from yarrawonga. (but the same could be said about clubs close to cobram) or mathoura who are close to echuca.

Strathy and Katunga this year are competitve in the comp with Local boys topped up with half a doz recruits so in answer to your question what would we prefer well im tipping if it went to a vote (drop the 4 above mentioned clubs or drop the NSW clubs) most of the central vic clubs would vote to play against the vic clubs (minus Shepp East) IMO.

But as this is totally not practical for the NSW clubs and only theoretical and unrealistic I quess we shouldnt worry to much about it.

Perhaps pace the last few posts along this line should be moved to the other thread?
 

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