2008 PDFL split

[theintimidator]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

I have been probably based things so strongly around 8 sides per comp. because the VCFL have made it very clear that 8 is the minimum number they would consider in a restructure situation.
In relation to the splitting of the league, I know some may not understand it, but travel and being competitive most weeks is extremely important. To just split the league with the six clubs closest to each other, and then say good luck to the rest, will see a number of clubs fold. To me there appears a few powerhouse sides which you would expect in a top 8, to make finals regularly, Waaia, Dookie, Shepp East, Katandra, Tungamah. Which I think most would agree, from there it gets tricky, Jerilderie I think could be in that bracket also. So for me that is 6 and getting the other 2 sides is very difficult ??

Thats exactly why promotion/relegation would work best. Those 6 clubs you metioned may never leave the higher division but is it fair to put another 2 clubs in there permanantly that will never be (or only occasionaly) competitive?? Can somone please tell me what is wrong with promotion/rlegation because so far the only negative anyone has been able to say about it is that it doesnt fix the travel. But neither does the above post from P2F or any of the proposals so far. At least with P/R it allows freedom of growth in the future. For instance if Finley wished to join from a higher league they would automaticly go in Div 1. If rennie wished to join from a equal/lower leauge then they would start off in Div 2 but neither side would be stuck there! Please Please Please P2F can you explain why you dont like this concept? (except that it may not improve the travel arrangments of your club)

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

Thats exactly why promotion/relegation would work best. Those 6 clubs you metioned may never leave the higher division but is it fair to put another 2 clubs in there permanantly that will never be (or only occasionaly) competitive?? Can somone please tell me what is wrong with promotion/rlegation because so far the only negative anyone has been able to say about it is that it doesnt fix the travel. But neither does the above post from P2F or any of the proposals so far. At least with P/R it allows freedom of growth in the future. For instance if Finley wished to join from a higher league they would automaticly go in Div 1. If rennie wished to join from a equal/lower leauge then they would start off in Div 2 but neither side would be stuck there! Please Please Please P2F can you explain why you dont like this concept? (except that it may not improve the travel arrangments of your club)

Think its been explained enough, mind you I like the idea of Wakool and Hay being involved.

 

[theintimidator]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

Think its been explained enough, mind you I like the idea of Wakool and Hay being involved.

No it hasnt, If it has please outline the main arguments as I seem to have forgotten! I believe that the main reason most people dont like the concept is their pride. They are scared that if the dont perform they will be relegated and would too proud to play in PDFL DIV2

 

[The Maroubra Stomp]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

Anyone heard anything lately regarding proposed changes? Is it a likelihood or possibility? Any news?

I hear that Rennie are planning to front the next PDFL Meeting.

 

[coconut]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

The current merger situation needs a revamp. The horse is starting to bolt and someone needs to grab the reins. New heirachy maybe? New president maybe? New FEMALE president maybe? Who knows? But something needs to be done.

 

[GrassKat]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

Here's some info:

Games this season against teams that finished in the same half of the ladder.

Interesting to see that Wunghnu didn't get 2 cracks at a bottom 8 side this season.

Top 8
Tungamah Played 8, Won 7, Lost 0, Draw 1
Dookie 9, 7, 2
Waaia 9, 6, 2, 1
Katandra 8, 4, 4
Strathy 9, 4, 5
Katunga 7, 2, 5
Deni 8, 2, 6
Shepp East 10, 1, 9

Bottom 8
Katty Played 7, Won 6, Lost 1
Blighty 9, 7, 2
Jerilderie 9, 7, 2
Picola 10, 6, 4
Berrigan 9, 5, 4
Mathoura 8, 2, 6
Yarroweyah 9, 1, 8
Wunghnu 7, 0, 7

 

[The Maroubra Stomp]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

The current merger situation needs a revamp. The horse is starting to bolt and someone needs to grab the reins. New heirachy maybe? New president maybe? New FEMALE president maybe? Who knows? But something needs to be done.

What do you mean coconut? There should be a merger/split or not? What do you think needs to be done?

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

The current merger situation needs a revamp. The horse is starting to bolt and someone needs to grab the reins. New heirachy maybe? New president maybe? New FEMALE president maybe? Who knows? But something needs to be done.

Agree with you in quite a few, most aspects, of your post Coconut, except your suggestion, prioritising, of the sex of the possible replacement, personally don't care what sex they are as long as they are pro-active in moving this league forward, because as you have stated the horse is off and the current head honcho's don't seem to realise it. Spoke to quite a few people from different sides from within the league this season, including at Saturday's finals, and quite a few clubs have struggled to regularly get 10-15 on the training track and are concerned where things are heading mostly player number wise and the commitment of players to travel and train. Not surprisingly but most have said when knowing they are not going to be over competitive or have a large road trip, numbers drop off from a week to week basis.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

Found it very interesting the amount of people with Rennie gear on at the PDFL grand final on the weekend.
Have heard a lot of discussion re-changes for 2009, of late, and most of it has revolved around not wanting Rennie in, yet most tend to think it will happen ???
The other matter involving the split of the league tends to be along the lines of the North / South concept, personally if that happens the way some are suggesting, I would suggest at least 5 current PDFL clubs will not be around in 5 - 10 years.
- A very high percentage of clubs struggle for numbers once travelling over 100 klms, which I'm affraid the North / South option does nothing to avoid.
- Most clubs' recruits are from the South, so any club which is forced into the Northern comp. will find it even harder to attract recruits, whether thats Mathoura/ Picola from Echuca or Strathy/ Katunga from Numurkah or Shepp.
- If Rennie were to join the comp and the North was to have 9 clubs, the 9 most northern clubs would be Strathy, Yarroweyah, Deni Rovers, Blighty, Jerilderie, Picola, Mathoura, Rennie, a lot of 100klms plus trips. Whilst the Southern would have no trips over 100 klms ??
- A BDFL club , Swanpool ???, is inquirying about moving from its current league ??
- Of the current clubs would think the 8 clubs with the best win/loss ration over the past 10 years would be Katandra, Tungamah, Waaia, Dookie, Shepp East, Jerilderie, and the remaining two would be out of Blighty, Katty, Strathy, Katunga
Clubs I think which would be in the bottom eight win / loss ratio wise over the past 10 years would be Wunghnu, Picola, Deni, Mathoura, Yarroweyah, Berrigan.
Would it not make sense to structure a split of the league around this with travel also kept in mind , if anybody has the exact stats please post ?
- What benefit is Rennie joining the PDFL going to be to any club within the current league ?
- The league was a very friendly and respectfull league, however as more clubs join it is getting worse, and by no fault of the clubs joining, but once upon a time you saw all clubs twice a year, now you see most clubs only once as season, which tends to have adverse effects.

 

[smooth mover]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

Here's some info:

Games this season against teams that finished in the same half of the ladder.

Interesting to see that Wunghnu didn't get 2 cracks at a bottom 8 side this season.

Top 8
Tungamah Played 8, Won 7, Lost 0, Draw 1
Dookie 9, 7, 2
Waaia 9, 6, 2, 1
Katandra 8, 4, 4
Strathy 9, 4, 5
Katunga 7, 2, 5
Deni 8, 2, 6
Shepp East 10, 1, 9

Bottom 8
Katty Played 7, Won 6, Lost 1
Blighty 9, 7, 2
Jerilderie 9, 7, 2
Picola 10, 6, 4
Berrigan 9, 5, 4
Mathoura 8, 2, 6
Yarroweyah 9, 1, 8
Wunghnu 7, 0, 7


dookie, katandra & tungamah are the teams 1u played twice this year! last years prem's & runner-up & this years prem's & runner-up!???

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

Keeps coming back to the league structure. If the league was smaller and clubs played each other more often there would be a better relationships between clubs. Bad behavior will decrease and there would be more of a "family" environment around the league.
Saying that add a truck load of grog into a few young ones (or old ones) and there will be fireworks at times. Only good ideas on the grog.

Totally agree Charles, about 8 sides in each would be nice.

 

[Waaia Bomber]

Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

Totally agree Charles, about 8 sides in each would be nice.

I disagree 8 sides is to small. I agree a 16 team competition is too large I think an 10 or 12 side league would be perfect. In an 8 team competition all you would need is for 1 or 2 of the sides that are battling at the minute to fold and the league would be stuffed.

Also congrats to Herb on winning Waaia’s B&F great way to fight back after missing most of last year with a broken leg.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

I disagree 8 sides is to small. I agree a 16 team competition is too large I think an 10 or 12 side league would be perfect. In an 8 team competition all you would need is for 1 or 2 of the sides that are battling at the minute to fold and the league would be stuffed.

Also congrats to Herb on winning Waaia’s B&F great way to fight back after missing most of last year with a broken leg.

Would you prefer 16 or 8 ?

 

[ark n go]

Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

not sure what will end up happening but the problem wont get fixed in a year. the wheels need to start turning now with talks to each club involved and what their ideal position would be. you wont be able to keep every club happy but its a start. as i said to fix the problem the league and football victoria need to have a 3 or 5 year plan to work towards.
simply adding more and more side is hopeless and will never fix anything. football victoria need to look after clubs in this area or they will not be around much longer which is sad considering that the league has been renown for up and coming young footballs and the standard is lifting.

 

[TrainerNo1]

Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

I disagree 8 sides is to small. I agree a 16 team competition is too large I think an 10 or 12 side league would be perfect. In an 8 team competition all you would need is for 1 or 2 of the sides that are battling at the minute to fold and the league would be stuffed.

An 8 team comp is about the perfect size. Play each other twice, have 2 or 3 byes during the year to keep everyone fresh, then have a top 5 to give everyone a good chance of making finals. sounds ok to me. As Charles said, the smaller the league, the more goodwill there will be between each club. You will play them more so you will get to know them better. Hence less incidents like on Grand final day.

 

[Charles Mac]

Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

not sure what will end up happening but the problem wont get fixed in a year. the wheels need to start turning now with talks to each club involved and what their ideal position would be. you wont be able to keep every club happy but its a start. as i said to fix the problem the league and football victoria need to have a 3 or 5 year plan to work towards.
simply adding more and more side is hopeless and will never fix anything. football victoria need to look after clubs in this area or they will not be around much longer which is sad considering that the league has been renown for up and coming young footballs and the standard is lifting.

Your spot on. There needs to be something happening and there isnt. I think all the clubs are looking for and wanting the "perfect" situation. It isnt going to happen. We all (by that i mean all the clubs) need to bite the bullet and suffer some short term pain for the long term goals for both our clubs and footy in the region. Put all the clubs into a hat and start to drag out names. There's your 2 new leagues. Over a 3-4 year period play with the new leagues to get the best fit. If all this prograstanting continues we will end up with a 20 team league and things will only get worse.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

Your spot on. There needs to be something happening and there isnt. I think all the clubs are looking for and wanting the "perfect" situation. It isnt going to happen. We all (by that i mean all the clubs) need to bite the bullet and suffer some short term pain for the long term goals for both our clubs and footy in the region. Put all the clubs into a hat and start to drag out names. There's your 2 new leagues. Over a 3-4 year period play with the new leagues to get the best fit. If all this prograstanting continues we will end up with a 20 team league and things will only get worse.

Believe at the next league meeting on the 29th, there will be a number of possibilities put forward from a number of clubs, varying from north/south to east/west splits, a number of others.
The mail I have received is one option, which has been bandied around, appeals to most, but one club thinks its better than its past 15 years results indicate, nor does it realise the benefit to itself of being in the middle instead of outer edge of a league, and is apparrently doing a lot of brown nosing and providing future promises trying to rally support.
A number of clubs appear to have varying opinion on what is most important to maintain all the clubs currently within the PDFL, which you would hope all the clubs want.
Some of the thoughts are equalising travel, competitiveness and maintaining club rivalries.
From a club which struggled for numbers at the start of this season, not unlike quite a few others over the last few years, the most important matter, I believe, is travel and is so by a long way.
Don't agree with just pulling names out of a hat, surely its not that hard to get a totally independent individual / company to go around to each club and find out :
Where most of their recruits come from ?
Where do most of there players live and work ?
How will they be affected by certain possible scenarios ?
Confidential, who they believe they can compete against over a long period of time ?
Confidentially again what are their biggest games $$$$ ?
Whats the population of where they draw players ?

and provide a recommendation back to the league.

But we all know that won't be done because thats doing things in a honest and professional manner, something which this league currently lacks, everytime time theres an issue, you stratch my back, I'll stratch yours deals are bokered.

 

[Charles Mac]

Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

Believe at the next league meeting on the 29th, there will be a number of possibilities put forward from a number of clubs, varying from north/south to east/west splits, a number of others.
The mail I have received is one option, which has been bandied around, appeals to most, but one club thinks its better than its past 15 years results indicate, nor does it realise the benefit to itself of being in the middle instead of outer edge of a league, and is apparrently doing a lot of brown nosing and providing future promises trying to rally support.
A number of clubs appear to have varying opinion on what is most important to maintain all the clubs currently within the PDFL, which you would hope all the clubs want.
Some of the thoughts are equalising travel, competitiveness and maintaining club rivalries.
From a club which struggled for numbers at the start of this season, not unlike quite a few others over the last few years, the most important matter, I believe, is travel and is so by a long way.
Don't agree with just pulling names out of a hat, surely its not that hard to get a totally independent individual / company to go around to each club and find out :
Where most of their recruits come from ?
Where do most of there players live and work ?
How will they be affected by certain possible scenarios ?
Confidential, who they believe they can compete against over a long period of time ?
Confidentially again what are their biggest games $$$$ ?
Whats the population of where they draw players ?

and provide a recommendation back to the league.

But we all know that won't be done because thats doing things in a honest and professional manner, something which this league currently lacks, everytime time theres an issue, you stratch my back, I'll stratch yours deals are bokered.

Is travel the biggest conern for clubs?? All clubs aim to win a premiership, with the number of teams in the comp there are a fair few sides that have no chance at all in the near future of winning one. Even at Deni we have had two pretty good years but we still need 2-3 good quality players to compete with the likes of Katandra, dookie, Tunga etc. Even though we beat dookie this year to compete on a regular basis is a struggle. Where can we recruit from ?? Unless someone comes to town for work we have no chance. This is not a cry in my beer senario, we along with alot of other picola league clubs dont have the pool of players to recruit from that other do. This is by no way having a go at those sides i just think that the sides who have access to these large number of recruits would be better suited to playing in a league together. Is the PDFL still a district league or not ??

 

[Hand Grenade]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

Found it very interesting the amount of people with Rennie gear on at the PDFL grand final on the weekend.
Have heard a lot of discussion re-changes for 2009, of late, and most of it has revolved around not wanting Rennie in, yet most tend to think it will happen ???
The other matter involving the split of the league tends to be along the lines of the North / South concept, personally if that happens the way some are suggesting, I would suggest at least 5 current PDFL clubs will not be around in 5 - 10 years.
- A very high percentage of clubs struggle for numbers once travelling over 100 klms, which I'm affraid the North / South option does nothing to avoid.
- Most clubs' recruits are from the South, so any club which is forced into the Northern comp. will find it even harder to attract recruits, whether thats Mathoura/ Picola from Echuca or Strathy/ Katunga from Numurkah or Shepp.
- If Rennie were to join the comp and the North was to have 9 clubs, the 9 most northern clubs would be Strathy, Yarroweyah, Deni Rovers, Blighty, Jerilderie, Picola, Mathoura, Rennie, a lot of 100klms plus trips. Whilst the Southern would have no trips over 100 klms ??
- A BDFL club , Swanpool ???, is inquirying about moving from its current league ??
- Of the current clubs would think the 8 clubs with the best win/loss ration over the past 10 years would be Katandra, Tungamah, Waaia, Dookie, Shepp East, Jerilderie, and the remaining two would be out of Blighty, Katty, Strathy, Katunga
Clubs I think which would be in the bottom eight win / loss ratio wise over the past 10 years would be Wunghnu, Picola, Deni, Mathoura, Yarroweyah, Berrigan.
Would it not make sense to structure a split of the league around this with travel also kept in mind , if anybody has the exact stats please post ?
- What benefit is Rennie joining the PDFL going to be to any club within the current league ?
- The league was a very friendly and respectfull league, however as more clubs join it is getting worse, and by no fault of the clubs joining, but once upon a time you saw all clubs twice a year, now you see most clubs only once as season, which tends to have adverse effects.

Gees PTF you seem anti Rennie? Do you know anyone from there or anything about the club? What clubs don't want Rennie in besides your mob (which is Mathoura isn't it?) From what I'm hearing, plenty of clubs (including yours) won't be around in a few years if things don't change. You keep sooking about the travel - what the hell do you expect when you're perched out on the western end of the comp? If things were perfect in the PDFL Rennie would not have been approached by a number of your clubs to come across.

 

[The One Who Watches]

Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

Is travel the biggest conern for clubs?? All clubs aim to win a premiership, with the number of teams in the comp there are a fair few sides that have no chance at all in the near future of winning one. Even at Deni we have had two pretty good years but we still need 2-3 good quality players to compete with the likes of Katandra, dookie, Tunga etc. Even though we beat dookie this year to compete on a regular basis is a struggle. Where can we recruit from ?? Unless someone comes to town for work we have no chance. This is not a cry in my beer senario, we along with alot of other picola league clubs dont have the pool of players to recruit from that other do. This is by no way having a go at those sides i just think that the sides who have access to these large number of recruits would be better suited to playing in a league together. Is the PDFL still a district league or not ??

Charles has made a pretty interesting point. The league is divided by the recruiting opportunities that the clubs have.

Clubs close to Shepparton have access to a larger pool of players than some others. Dookie proved this last year and clubs like Shepp East drag many of their players from Shepp. How does this compare to Berrigan, Jerilderie or potentially Rennie?

The Picola league has now absorbed clubs from the TFL and the Coreen League. Back in the day there was no comparison between these two comps. The TFL was nearly a 'major' league.

The inequity about potential recruits is not going to go away. Clubs closer to Shepp will continue to overwhelm those further away. Tungamah is a bit different because it can recruit from Yarrawonga or even Wangaratta. Strathy, Yarroweyah and Katunga all appear to recruit predominantly from Cobram/Yarrawonga, whilst Mathoura and Deni can chip away from Echuca.

No easy solution, but the trend is that the old TFL teams who are closer to the major population centre (Shepp) have access to more potential recruits and more potential sponsors are likely to improve whilst those who are remote will regress.

If the league doesn't change the current format this situation will only get worse.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Re: Picola District Football League, general thread mk II.

Is travel the biggest conern for clubs?? All clubs aim to win a premiership, with the number of teams in the comp there are a fair few sides that have no chance at all in the near future of winning one. Even at Deni we have had two pretty good years but we still need 2-3 good quality players to compete with the likes of Katandra, dookie, Tunga etc. Even though we beat dookie this year to compete on a regular basis is a struggle. Where can we recruit from ?? Unless someone comes to town for work we have no chance. This is not a cry in my beer senario, we along with alot of other picola league clubs dont have the pool of players to recruit from that other do. This is by no way having a go at those sides i just think that the sides who have access to these large number of recruits would be better suited to playing in a league together. Is the PDFL still a district league or not ??

Yes as I have said before Mathoura who has won 2 games each of the last 2 years beat 3 of the top 8 sides every time they met in 2006.

Anyway you have made some valid points which are relevent for some clubs but in my opinion not the majority and heres some reasons why.

Deni, Jeriliderie and possibly Berrigan I would think have the largest amount of players who live or work within the surrounding area and therefore those clubs are those players nearest club.
Most other clubs would have a significant amount of players who work or live, within either Shepparton, Echuca or Cobram, and are not neccessarily recruits.
Deni's home ground would be within the postcode with largest population
within the league.
Deni has only one other, Deni Rams, non Picola club within possibly 50 klms.
Deni, if playing away at everyones elses ground, would travel further than anybody else, therefore any league split will see its travelling decreased.

So in summary I assume, unlike a lot of clubs you do not have to compete against 6-8 or even more clubs, who are closer to your players work or residency, and other district league clubs who travel far less, you only have to compete against the Rams.
However you may be limited by the amount of recruits that are available within 50 klms.
As I said previously every club has its unique circumstances and needs.

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

Gees PTF you seem anti Rennie? Do you know anyone from there or anything about the club? What clubs don't want Rennie in besides your mob (which is Mathoura isn't it?) From what I'm hearing, plenty of clubs (including yours) won't be around in a few years if things don't change. You keep sooking about the travel - what the hell do you expect when you're perched out on the western end of the comp? If things were perfect in the PDFL Rennie would not have been approached by a number of your clubs to come across.

No I don't know anyone from the Rennie football club and for all I know they might be greatest club on earth, still doesn't change the fact I don't think they should be in the comp.
Mathoura is approx. 46klm form Picola which up untill recently was the centre of the league hence , Picola and District Football League !!
Also who would have most amount of current PDFLS clubs within a 100klm radius Rennie or Mathoura ?
So do you think making life harder from the clubs already within the comp. is good for football ?
How many of these clubs that apparently approached you have been in the league longer then 7 years, and was there more than 8, 50% of the league ?
Because the VCFL has confirmed to me that they have not been informed of any official approach by the PDFL ?
Do you realise that the PDFL is governed / aflliated, with the VCFL who will ultimately make the final decision ?
Wasn't there also an application rejected last season ?
Why would Rennie consider joining the PDFL ??
Did you ever think the " If things don't change " may already be getting worked on and may be attributed to the amount of clubs and travel now in the league ?

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

Right o after much thought and must admitt some input from others,and a gut feel of what level clubs may be able to compete on a regular basis, heres my latest thought what the PDFL should consider at the next league meeting on the 29th of September.
Rennies proposal to join the current PDFL, rejected short term but certainly leave the door open for the future and after the current PDFL debacile is sorted out.
Immediate, for 2009 season, change to the current PDFL format.

Heres my latest crack of the split :

Comp # 1 ( The 8 most successfull sides over the past 10 years, Blighty Jerilderie , gone with gut feeling of abilty to sustain success )
Waaia
Katandra
Tungamah
Shepp East
Jeriliderie
Dookie
Strathy
Kattamatitie


Comp # 2 ( the 8 less successful sides over the past 10 years, Blighty and Jerilderie is a difficult one but gone with gut feeling of being able to sustain success)

Blighty
Katunga
Yarroweyah
Berrigan
Mathoura
Picola
Deni Rovers
Wunghnu

Both comps to be run individually , however certain regulations to apply.

Comp #1
If a side finishes bottom of the ladder for 2 consecutive seasons they shall be offered the opportunity to drop down to comp 2, if they finish bottom 3 years in a row they are automatically replaced by the most succesfull side over 3 years in comp 2, if there is two sides which have achieved equal success in comp 2 over that time the most succesfull in the past season will automatically be elevated.
If a side finishes bottom 2, 5 years consecutive they shall be offered the same relegation.

Comp # 2
If a side finishes top of the ladder for 2 consecutive seasons they shall be offered the opportunity to jump up to comp 1, if they finish finish top 3 years in a row they automatically replace the less most sucessful side in comp 1, if there is two sides which have been equally unsucessfull in comp 1 the least sucessful in the previous season should be relegated.
If a side finishes top 2, 5 years consecutive they shall be offered the same elevation.

Funny enough travel ends up as goods as any system I have tried !

Hope all makes sense !!

 

[Gambi]

Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

Right o after much thought and must admitt some input from others,and a gut feel of what level clubs may be able to compete on a regular basis, heres my latest thought what the PDFL should consider at the next league meeting on the 29th of September.
Rennies proposal to join the current PDFL, rejected short term but certainly leave the door open for the future and after the current PDFL debacile is sorted out.
Immediate, for 2009 season, change to the current PDFL format.

Heres my latest crack of the split :

Comp # 1 ( The 8 most successfull sides over the past 10 years, Blighty Jerilderie , gone with gut feeling of abilty to sustain success )
Waaia
Katandra
Tungamah
Shepp East
Jeriliderie
Dookie
Strathy
Kattamatitie


Comp # 2 ( the 8 less successful sides over the past 10 years, Blighty and Jerilderie is a difficult one but gone with gut feeling of being able to sustain success)

Blighty
Katunga
Yarroweyah
Berrigan
Mathoura
Picola
Deni Rovers
Wunghnu

Both comps to be run individually , however certain regulations to apply.

Comp #1
If a side finishes bottom of the ladder for 2 consecutive seasons they shall be offered the opportunity to drop down to comp 2, if they finish bottom 3 years in a row they are automatically replaced by the most succesfull side over 3 years in comp 2, if there is two sides which have achieved equal success in comp 2 over that time the most succesfull in the past season will automatically be elevated.
If a side finishes bottom 2, 5 years consecutive they shall be offered the same relegation.

Comp # 2
If a side finishes top of the ladder for 2 consecutive seasons they shall be offered the opportunity to jump up to comp 1, if they finish finish top 3 years in a row they automatically replace the less most sucessful side in comp 1, if there is two sides which have been equally unsucessfull in comp 1 the least sucessful in the previous season should be relegated.
If a side finishes top 2, 5 years consecutive they shall be offered the same elevation.

Funny enough travel ends up as goods as any system I have tried !

Hope all makes sense !!

sorry to say this ptf but that is sh*t house. just leave it the way it is dnt let renni(they r crap)lol

 

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Re: CHANGES TO CURRENT PDFL ( merged ) NEW COMP / MFL/PDFL 3 Division System Threads

If the league let Rennie in, that would mean definately 3-4 clubs will have to merge....... with in the next 3-5 years. Because gate numbers will be down for you don't get to play rival clubs twice, people will play Murray league for travel reasons... Leauge lets Rennie in, What's stopping Billabong Crows wanting in the year after that????