2008 PDFL split

["The Roar Is Back"]

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That's a good idea. Would seem silly to separate Rennie from their rivals/neighbours Berrigan and Jerilderie. I hear that Mathoura are the ones opposing this due to travel distances. I believe all other clubs in that North West Comp would agree to this. Seems silly if one or two clubs can make enough noise to dictate the make up of the Comp. Perhaps someone from Mathoura or in fact anyone who was at the meeting last night might clear that up whether true or not.

So was the recent vote to allow Rennie into the comp 15-1 ??
Is there more clubs in the North / West comp. that voted against their admission into the PDFL or more in the South / East , maybe the executive have taken the recent vote into consideration ??

Your suggestions are totally in-correct, all clubs , have / were asked to place there ideas forward to the executive in writting,as per the questionare sent to all clubs, who I then believe sorted through them to come up with what they have, which is believed to be a general representation of what best suited the majority of clubs and the above mentioned recommendation was presented to the clubs league delegates, to take back to their clubs.
No one club to my understanding, and rightfully so, had a greater influence than any other, on this proposal.
Lets not forget, and yes I am biased, but why should one or more current PDFL club, if that was the case, be ignored or dis-advantaged for the benefit of a club not already in the comp ??
Anyway think if it was to be approved , would think perhaps it would make common sense for Jerilderie and Katunga to swap and include Rennie into the so called South / East comp ??
Don't be surprised if it has already been agreed upon for Rennie to join the South / East comp. ???

 

[Hand Grenade]

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13 clubs voted to re-visit Rennie's application (now that it is a bit clearer how things might pan out).
1 club voted to let Rennie into the comp in 2010 (dunno which club that was).
And 2 clubs voted against Rennie - Waaia and Mathoura. 2 clubs that (according to some members of the executive) are consistent whingers and whiners unless they get their own way (and that's quoting members of some PDFL Clubs P2F so don't be getting all upset at me over it).

Sounds like the tail has been wagging the dog for a few years with you blokes but if you are getting your own way then good luck to you I spose.

 

[Doobie Renshaw]

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So was the recent vote to allow Rennie into the comp 15-1 ??
Is there more clubs in the North / West comp. that voted against their admission into the PDFL or more in the South / East , maybe the executive have taken the recent vote into consideration ??

Your suggestions are totally in-correct, all clubs , have / were asked to place there ideas forward to the executive in writting,as per the questionare sent to all clubs, who I then believe sorted through them to come up with what they have, which is believed to be a general representation of what best suited the majority of clubs and the above mentioned recommendation was presented to the clubs league delegates, to take back to their clubs.
No one club to my understanding, and rightfully so, had a greater influence than any other, on this proposal.
Lets not forget, and yes I am biased, but why should one or more current PDFL club, if that was the case, be ignored or dis-advantaged for the benefit of a club not already in the comp ??
Anyway think if it was to be approved , would think perhaps it would make common sense for Jerilderie and Katunga to swap and include Rennie into the so called South / East comp ??
Don't be surprised if it has already been agreed upon for Rennie to join the South / East comp. ???

Not a bad swap Pace - see, I don't always disagree with you now do I?

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

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13 clubs voted to re-visit Rennie's application (now that it is a bit clearer how things might pan out).
1 club voted to let Rennie into the comp in 2010 (dunno which club that was).
And 2 clubs voted against Rennie - Waaia and Mathoura. 2 clubs that (according to some members of the executive) are consistent whingers and whiners unless they get their own way (and that's quoting members of some PDFL Clubs P2F so don't be getting all upset at me over it).

Sounds like the tail has been wagging the dog for a few years with you blokes but if you are getting your own way then good luck to you I spose.

Guess your right thats why we get all the good draws, finals, umpires and the like .


Your figures and thoughts are wrong, so go back and tell your informant to get there facts right, also you may have got your wires a little mixed up as to who answered no to certain questions upon the questionare, maybe it was the way the questions were worded and some may have seeked more opinion/advice than others??
So your informants are telling you that there was a vote at Mondays night meeting after it was discussed that Rennie would be entering the South East comp. if the current split takes place was there ?
Any chance your informants are filling you with crap ??

 

[Hand Grenade]

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Guess your right thats why we get all the good draws, finals, umpires and the like .
Yeah fancy anyone saying you blokes whinge (read above).

Your figures and thoughts are wrong, so go back and tell your informant to get there facts right, also you may have got your wires a little mixed up as to who answered no to certain questions upon the questionare, maybe it was the way the questions were worded and some may have seeked more opinion/advice than others??
If the figures are wrong how about you tell us all the correct ones then Einstein?
So your informants are telling you that there was a vote at Mondays night meeting after it was discussed that Rennie would be entering the South East comp. if the current split takes place was there ?
No - where did I say that?

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Originally Posted by Hand Grenade
13 clubs voted to re-visit Rennie's application (now that it is a bit clearer how things might pan out).
1 club voted to let Rennie into the comp in 2010 (dunno which club that was).
And 2 clubs voted against Rennie - Waaia and Mathoura


Any chance your informants are filling you with crap ??
Possibly. Give us the correct figures and I'll be the judge of it then eh?

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

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Possibly. Give us the correct figures and I'll be the judge of it then eh?

Not my job to fill you in with information , I'd rather just jump down your neck when you are wrong !!!
Hey, nice try though at trying to find out whats going on in our comp.
I will give you a tip, read back a few posts and you will see that the vote to dismiss Rennie's application wasn't 28/4 and to the best of my knowledge clubs only had 2 votes, so obviously more than 2 clubs didn't want them in and just maybe it might make sense that more than a 3rd of the clubs didn't want them in.
Surely there's some news upon your league, Hume , board that you could be spending your time on.!!

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

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[BACKS SORE!]

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At last night League meeting the Division of the leagues would go this way... Or is the proposal..

North/West League
Yarroweyah
Blighty
Mathoura
Picola United
Deni
Wunghnu
Strathmerton
Jerilderie


South/East League
Dookie
Shepp East
Katandra
Tungamah
Katty
Waaia
Katunga
Berrigan


By my way of looking this is not a bad set up.. The South/East League is alot stronger and will be interesting if it does fall this way..

Would also be interesting if they had Interleague on a yearly basis to bring back that rivalry. What are peoples thoughts??

Am I living in a Bizzarro world??
That proposal is surely not going to get through????
looks to me that they have got the top 6 or 7 teams from the comp and stuck them together, a few from here or there to top it up!
Travel wise it's not that smart.... Have a look at a map and tell me what's wrong ..
C'mon Katunga & Strathy in diffrent comp's or even Picola and Waaia in the same situation.....Whats with that??? Just doesn't make sense to me, but I know from a club point of view I would rather lose to a good side by 10 ten goals then dominate a uneven league.. (But thats just my opinion) Cheers

 

[Hand Grenade]

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Am I living in a Bizzarro world??
That proposal is surely not going to get through????
looks to me that they have got the top 6 or 7 teams from the comp and stuck them together, a few from here or there to top it up!
Travel wise it's not that smart.... Have a look at a map and tell me what's wrong ..
C'mon Katunga & Strathy in diffrent comp's or even Picola and Waaia in the same situation.....Whats with that??? Just doesn't make sense to me, but I know from a club point of view I would rather lose to a good side by 10 ten goals then dominate a uneven league.. (But thats just my opinion) Cheers

An earlier post suggested the two comps were based on this year's ladder placings supposedly making it relatively even? Perhaps it was based on club strength not just on the Seniors? Anyone along the boundary (Katunga/Strathy or Picola/Waaia) probably won't be happy if split the same gripes would appear if it was a north/south split.

 

[Charles Mac]

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Am I living in a Bizzarro world??
That proposal is surely not going to get through????
looks to me that they have got the top 6 or 7 teams from the comp and stuck them together, a few from here or there to top it up!
Travel wise it's not that smart.... Have a look at a map and tell me what's wrong ..
C'mon Katunga & Strathy in diffrent comp's or even Picola and Waaia in the same situation.....Whats with that??? Just doesn't make sense to me, but I know from a club point of view I would rather lose to a good side by 10 ten goals then dominate a uneven league.. (But thats just my opinion) Cheers

It does seem a little strange but remember that Strathy wernt playing against Katunga and co when they were in the Murray league. Finley and Wakool are pretty close to Deni but we dont play them. The proposed split was done by the league after each club had some imput. The split suggested is what MOST clubs would suit the best. I know when we say down as a club and taked it through the couple of clubs that were a bit of a sticking point as to where they fit best were Strathy, katunga and waaia. Berrigan and the U were a bit difficult as well. It's not going to be perfect but it is a step in the right direction. Im looking forward to playing each and every side twice in the same year. I think you will find that sides will improve with the chance of playing finals. Ie: In a smaller comp Blighty will be a good chance to play finals which might give the place that little of a better feeling around the club. Might give them the opportunity to be able to recruit more or better players to the club. Not going to be prefect for everyone but it will be better.

 

[confusedman]

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The first vote 4 Rennie was 18 to 14 in favour of them comeing into the league but as it had to be a two thirds majority they have been dissallowed.9 clubs yes 7 clubs no

 

[themagicfrog]

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Talking to some Rennie people last night and as far as they are concerned Rennie was accepted into the PDFL last Friday, and they were told that there was going to be a North/South split.
Don’t know what their club is telling them but we haven’t heard that yet.

 

[mixed emotions]

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With the possibility of the Hume football league splitting into 2 in 2010 (see todays wagga advertiser) raising the option of the Hume league chasing say Berrigan Jerilderie Finley and adding these to Coleambally, CDHBU, Bill Crows, Rennie, RWT and BB saints and making a nice tidy 9 team with a max of 100kms travel except Colly it makes clubs decisions this weekend critical as to whether they accept change or defer what they believe may be inevitable but may not necessarily be so. Changes will happen in the benalla, hume and heathcote leagues which will ultimately have a roll on effect to the picola league ie Benalla league implosion, Tungamah/Goorambat merger, broadford to the riddell league, heathcote, mt pleasant, elmore, colbo to the kdfl, tally/wunghu merger. Do we take the extra club now? Are we a proactive league or are are we too introspective. Will we end up with a Deni based league inc Hay, Wakool, Murrabit, Moulamein, Mathoura, Rovers, Blighty. The decision making process of many clubs will be interesting to see.

 

[The Cunning Stunt]

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Will also be interesting to see who gets the PDFL Presidency with the current honcho about to step down. If it is someone without vision or the guts to see through what the majority of clubs clearly want (a split) then that will be a great shame (and another nail in the coffin of some of those clubs battling to keep going in the current climate). Depending on the new leadership, the PDFL can either kick some goals or go backwards. Hopefully the new leadership group won't be influenced by the negative clubs within the comp. Otherwise, some clubs might want to go towards the split Hume League (as mixed emotions described). A real pivotal time for the PDFL.

 

[confusedman]

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PDFL have just released a 16 team draw 4 2009 r they not telling us the truth

 

[Toss]

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This will be the draw if a split does not go ahead. If a split is voted for then new numbers will be drawn and the new draw out in a couple of weeks.

 

[YMBJ]

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This is crazy, surely Berrigan cannot be in the South/East league, there is no one there close to us, we need to be playing against town in our area, if this split happens and we are in the South/East league I can see players/families etc not playing and moving to Finley/Oaklands/Jerilderie, come on PDFL have a good think about this and swap Berrigan and Wunghnu.

YMBJ

 

[smooth mover]

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This is crazy, surely Berrigan cannot be in the South/East league, there is no one there close to us, we need to be playing against town in our area, if this split happens and we are in the South/East league I can see players/families etc not playing and moving to Finley/Oaklands/Jerilderie, come on PDFL have a good think about this and swap Berrigan and Wunghnu.

YMBJ

Why is it that when all you guys have a sook about something you's always think its cool to swap the sh!t wit 1u? For people who have been saying how they want everything to be fair i just dont understand why you's think its ok to just throw them around!

Remember they're a club that have tried to rebuild to a respectable level not only for themselves but for the image of the league also! Did you see them whinge anytime over the last 4 to 5 yrs when they've had to play the teams that finished in the top 4 twice the following yr ( bit of a coincidence there pdfl )? No they just got on wit the job & did they're best maybe some of you other clubs should do the same & stop always looking for the easy way out!

 

[YMBJ]

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Why is it that when all you guys have a sook about something you's always think its cool to swap the sh!t wit 1u? For people who have been saying how they want everything to be fair i just dont understand why you's think its ok to just throw them around!

Remember they're a club that have tried to rebuild to a respectable level not only for themselves but for the image of the league also! Did you see them whinge anytime over the last 4 to 5 yrs when they've had to play the teams that finished in the top 4 twice the following yr ( bit of a coincidence there pdfl )? No they just got on wit the job & did they're best maybe some of you other clubs should do the same & stop always looking for the easy way out!

Not having a crack at Wunghnu but it would make sense for them to be in the SOUTH/East comp than the NORTH/West comp, and on the Wunghnu subject at least they are in there each week trying there guts out, for which I admire them, but after your little rant I noticed you barrack for ESSENDON so that would pretty much explain your rubbish.

 

[jetter18]

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would have thought swapping Strathy & Berrigan would make more sense....

 

["The Roar Is Back"]

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would have thought swapping Strathy & Berrigan would make more sense....

My info is the Shepp News will have a report tommorrow indicating the split will occur.
Like the idea of swapping Katunga and Berrigan, leaving Katunga and Strathy still playing each other and Rennie, Jerilderie and Berrigan all playing each other !!

 

[Hand Grenade]

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My info is the Shepp News will have a report tommorrow indicating the split will occur.
Like the idea of swapping Katunga and Berrigan, leaving Katunga and Strathy still playing each other and Rennie, Jerilderie and Berrigan all playing each other !!

Well I'll be stuffed P2F. I agree with you for once! Rennie would love to be playing old rivals/neighbours Berrigan and Jerilderie. But we are not in any position to dictate what comp we would go into - we just need to get into the PDFL to keep and expand our player/supporter base which is primarily Yarra/Mul people. Regardless of whether the split is east/west or north/south (if there is a split) some clubs will be unhappy, and may lose some rivalries. The important thing is that the clubs be placed into comps that will ensure their future viability player/supporter/sponsor wise.

 

[TTTT]

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Why is it that when all you guys have a sook about something you's always think its cool to swap the sh!t wit 1u? For people who have been saying how they want everything to be fair i just dont understand why you's think its ok to just throw them around!

Remember they're a club that have tried to rebuild to a respectable level not only for themselves but for the image of the league also! Did you see them whinge anytime over the last 4 to 5 yrs when they've had to play the teams that finished in the top 4 twice the following yr ( bit of a coincidence there pdfl )? No they just got on wit the job & did they're best maybe some of you other clubs should do the same & stop always looking for the easy way out!

i think wunghu will be the first casulty of the split, they will get smashed every week if there put in the south/east comp and if they stay in the north/west comp they will struggle to come up with numbers due to the travel + they most likely lose every week with probaly only mathoura there only chance for a win, so its a lose-lose situation for wunghnu, they will probaly fold or merge with tally or mabe numurkah

 

[Hand Grenade]

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i think wunghu will be the first casulty of the split, they will get smashed every week if there put in the south/east comp and if they stay in the north/west comp they will struggle to come up with numbers due to the travel + they most likely lose every week with probaly only mathoura there only chance for a win, so its a lose-lose situation for wunghnu, they will probaly fold or merge with tally or mabe numurkah

That would be a genuine shame. Have read some previous posts about Wunghu's genuine efforts to survive and improve. What is the solution? Why would a split make things worse? Sounds like they would (unfortunately) cop beltings whether they are in a split or 16 team comp.

 

[Toss]

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My info is the Shepp News will have a report tommorrow indicating the split will occur.
Like the idea of swapping Katunga and Berrigan, leaving Katunga and Strathy still playing each other and Rennie, Jerilderie and Berrigan all playing each other !!

How can they announce the split when the vote isn't until Sunday Night. I also believe that if the split is to occur, then Rennie will be placed in the South/East comp. Yes...it would be nice to have Jerilderie and Berrigan playing against Rennie. But placing Rennie in the North/West would be hard for both Mathoura and Rennie with such long travel distances. You have to remember that there is a fourths that start at 9am!!!!

I think the vote will be very close on Sunday night.