Analysis 2008 v 2018 could we do it again?

[HawkMongrel]

Watch us lose to the Saints now.

haha there's nothing surer. I'll stick $100 on the Saints.

 

[Buzz Hawk]

No let’s not get too hubristic chaps.

 

[TylerDurden]

Absolutely we can win this - if we make top 4
They are Richmond, the same Richmond they were before September last year, the same Richmond they will be forever.
It's finals footy. It's different. We have A Clarko. They have a Dildo.
How anyone can believe that in finals footy at the 'G the Hawks are without hope against these guys I just don't get.
They didn't have to worry bout us last year.
If we make it and land them - Sis didn't play r3, it's finals now not r3, our finals record, our coach.....

So much yet to unfold. We may not even qualify. But if we make top 4 and end up v Tigers in a prelim - could think of nothing better. Perfect scenario. We will do them easy. They simply are not that good....

Agree. I want them in a Prelim.

Will be shades of Silk v Cats in 2013.

 

[Randy Campbell]

No let’s not get too hubristic chaps.

Do not forget.
If we make the finals, we are Hawthorn.

 

[JoeHawk]

Do not forget.
If we make the finals, we are Hawthorn.

Didn’t we go out in straight sets in 2016? Just saying ....

 

[Argy]

Here are the highlights of 2008... I don't think this team is as good, but hope springs eternal.

 

[badgrill]

Here are the highlights of 2008... I don't think this team is as good, but hope springs eternal.

Post match interview with Dew after Rnd 1 match - I didn't realise he grew up barracking for the Hawks.

Nice one

 

[Hawk88]

So just like 2008 then?

Haha true

Still don't think our list this year was as good as that year. Plus that was the first year of a proper Clarko Cluster, noone could work it out that year

I hope you are right though, beating the Tiges in a GF would be the beez f***ing neez

 

[Randy Campbell]

Didn’t we go out in straight sets in 2016? Just saying ....

For the first time and we got that out of the way.

 

[caliente]

Watching Richmond tonight - they’re no world beaters / apply enough pressure and they will CRACK.

 

[Aramis]

Spot on.... we were also paying about $3.30 on the day of the 2008 GF... I'm pretty sure Crows were favourites last year too... As were Swans in 2016...

It would be interesting to see the odds leading into each of the past 10 Grand Finals.... Without knowing, I would go as far to say that the 'underdog' has probably won at least 80% of the time.

Up for underdogs/Down for favs
2017 - Richmond
2016 - Bulldogs
2015 - Hawthorn
2014 - Hawthorn (yes we were considered the underdogs in this game believe it or not)
2013 - Hawthorn
2012 - Sydney
2011 - Geelong
2010 - Magpies
2009 - Geelong
2008 - Hawthorn

We're split 50/50 underdogs/favs over the last 10 GF's.

 

[KermitJagger]

Up for underdogs/Down for favs
2017 - Richmond
2016 - Bulldogs
2015 - Hawthorn
2014 - Hawthorn (yes we were considered the underdogs in this game believe it or not)
2013 - Hawthorn
2012 - Sydney
2011 - Geelong
2010 - Magpies
2009 - Geelong
2008 - Hawthorn

We're split 50/50 underdogs/favs over the last 10 GF's.

I don't remember us being the favourites in 2015 considering we'd been beaten by West Coast three weeks prior?

 

[Aramis]

I don't remember us being the favourites in 2015 considering we'd been beaten by West Coast three weeks prior?

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...s/news-story/6b757c3afd00ac4b1914635959031f8f

We most certainly were favs, this is when they were going through their lengthy MCG woes.

 

[chunkylover]

Sorry for the intrusion but eagles fans have seen first hand what a game plan of precise ball movement with lots of marking and keeping the ball off the ground and well delivered fwd entries does to the tigers game plan. It resulted in an 8 goal belting. That's what Simpson has the eagles doing this year and it negates plenty of what richmond do well. Where did simmo learnt it from? Your man Clarkson. Don't worry about GWS our 2 teams are the best chance of knocking them off.

 

[Gene Simmons]

Up for underdogs/Down for favs
2017 - Richmond
2016 - Bulldogs
2015 - Hawthorn
2014 - Hawthorn (yes we were considered the underdogs in this game believe it or not)
2013 - Hawthorn
2012 - Sydney
2011 - Geelong
2010 - Magpies
2009 - Geelong
2008 - Hawthorn

We're split 50/50 underdogs/favs over the last 10 GF's.

Cheers

 

[KermitJagger]

Sorry for the intrusion but eagles fans have seen first hand what a game plan of precise ball movement with lots of marking and keeping the ball off the ground and well delivered fwd entries does to the tigers game plan. It resulted in an 8 goal belting. That's what Simpson has the eagles doing this year and it negates plenty of what richmond do well. Where did simmo learnt it from? Your man Clarkson. Don't worry about GWS our 2 teams are the best chance of knocking them off.

Every team that tries to match Richmond with Richmond things ends up losing. I'd be a lot more confident if we had a Josh Kennedy like you guys that's for sure.

 

[MistyAvalon]

first we have to beat Saints

 

[LuckyHawk]

We would have to improve at least 15% and Nash would have to become an overnight star. Both could happen.

 

[Hawker_85]

In Sydney’s case they absolutely butchered their kickins early and it caused them panic.

The Rohan one was a dagger.

Still recall Bruce half way through the second after Hodge drilled the turnover goal “he’s got one hand on the Cup already!”

Yes he has...

"He can feel that cup in his hands I reckon." I think it was the Grandstand call that said Hawthorn had one hand on the premiership cup already after that goal. I've listened to various commentaries of that game probably hundreds of times at this point.

 

[Rioli2Gunstall]

"He can feel that cup in his hands I reckon." I think it was the Grandstand call that said Hawthorn had one hand on the premiership cup already after that goal. I've listened to various commentaries of that game probably hundreds of times at this point.

Pretty sure that goal was when rex brought out the fat lady, half way through the second. I was ecstatic, what a game.