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2011 Draft Discussion Part 3

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I think there is a smattering of inside info picks in Phelan's mock although I tend to agree with you. The Elton to Saints picks accords with what everyone has been saying. Also Justin Clarke to the Hawks accords with what EQ mentions in her blog.
 
It does seem like he's averaged out all of the phantom drafts so far to come up with his.
When I was reading it I did think that he had added sentences here and there to acknowledge something I had read on BF or to stave off BF critics. It seems certain I think that he spent a fair bit of time on the D&T board - then again if I was in his position I would do that too so hard to criticise too much.
 

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Jason Phelan

I really think the Lions need to look seriously at Longer if he's there at 8. If Leuenberger has any sort of injury issues then Huddo isn't going to be able to handle the load. Plus - he's a great prospect. Lewy & Longer the Lions ruck tandem for years to come!

that 7/8 spot is a pivotal point in the draft. Tomlinson is certainly a chance to get past 7 and if that does happen he won't get past 8. I think Greene is a jet too btw.
 
Greene (or best available mid)/Docherty/Schade/Downie would do me nicely.

This matches my desires perfectly, although will happily take Tomlinson at 8 if he's there.

Massive love for Docherty.
 
That's exactly what I was thinking a few minutes ago.

This matches my desires perfectly, although will happily take Tomlinson at 8 if he's there.

Massive love for Docherty.

Always liked you lads! :D

If we take Tomlinson @ 8, then maybe another mid instead of Schade @ 30.
 
I've never seem him play, but Docherty sounds pretty similar to Hanley from some of the descriptions.

Not the case?

Pretty good comparison, Docherty with a more penetrating kick though.

Ideally one of them would end up in the midfield eventually.
 
The Phelanatron seems to be largely based on rankings, and not so much on inside info.

Asked him if his selections were based on "inside info", best available or needs based, and here's his response.

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Jason Phelan:
Hi Crusha - you raise an interesting point. I do talk to people in the industry and you do get a feel for what clubs will do. Sometimes that's more specific and others it's more of an educated guess based on needs. I will say it's quite rare that you know 100% what a club will do at a particular pick.
 
If we take Tomlinson @ 8, then maybe another mid instead of Schade @ 30.

If we got Tomlinson at 8, I wouldn't mind swapping Docherty for Greene (who would probably still be there at 12)... Tomlinson/Greene/Schade/Downie would be an epic drafting...

We could still use a HBF in there, but we need a bit of everything really, and we've got guys who can stopgap til nextyear...
 

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has it been mentioned anywhere that its possible tomlinson could go to port?

i have a feeling that port could take him for some reason

and to go with the current trend of the thread

8-smith

12-docherty

30-tall back/forward

47-manson

and i will be VERY VERY HAPPY where as if a tall is taken with 8 and shudder or 12 i will be pissed
 
There's football talent all over Australia and we've got just 24 hours to track it down.

Just 24 more hours...that's all the time we've got

24 more hours before we know the lot.

Before pick 8 will Giants or Port take Tomlinson and Longer?

Or at pick 8 will they be there no longer?


I think we need a little bit of luck.
 
has it been mentioned anywhere that its possible tomlinson could go to port?

i have a feeling that port could take him for some reason

That'd really throw the cat amongst the pigeons... I hope it happens. :D
 

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If Tomlinson going to Port meant that Brisbane could get Wingard I'd be over the moon. <24 hrs left
 
Option 1/Option 2
(no. 8) Adam Tomlinson/Billy Longer,
(no.12) Toby Greene/Sam Docherty,
(no. 30) Michael Talia/ Fraser McInnes,
(no. 47) Myles Bolger/Zyrus Manson or Julian Dobosz.
 
I am thinking we will take Tomlinson or Longer at 8 if either one is there. If both, i think we will go after our man Tomlinson, but i could see us going Longer. I certainly won't be disappointed if we end up with longer, but i still believe he is a bit of a wasted pick. At the same time, if Tomlinson is gone, i don't think we rate the other KPP enough to use a top pick on them. Instead of going Longer, i'd rather see us stick small and go a Green/Docherty type combo, and stick with a Talia/Schade at 30 to cover a defender, and a Brown/Downie at 47 to cover a ruck option.

Kerr did note in trade week that we did get Hudson because they felt Bergs is a top 3 ruck in the comp, and he needs a supporter player rather than actual competition. Longer is too good to be that support role we want. I'd rather see us go for Downie at 47 for a development player, and try our lucky at Tippett next year to cover that 2nd ruck spot.
 
Am I right in saying that it looks like GWS' plan is to take Tomlinson at 7 and then Longer with 9-11?

If it comes down to it, if i was GWS, i'd take a calculated risk of taking Tomlinson first, knowing it is less likely we would take Longer. If they miss him, they can take another ruckman this draft, and maybe look towards getting a star ruck next year with the #1 pick that they will have.
 
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