Analysis 2012, 2013 & 2014 draft ranking

[Prochard123]

Rookie and pre-season draft picks not included. Both performance and potential considered.

1. Joe Daniher (2012)
2. Ben Brown (2013)
3. Brodie Grundy (2012)
4. Josh Kelly (2013)
5. Patrick Cripps (2013)
6. Harris Andrews (2014)
7. Jack Macrae (2012)
8. Matt Crouch (2013)
9. Marcus Bontempelli (2013)
10. Isaac Heeney (2014)
11. Zach Merrett (2013)
12. Lachie Whitfield (2012)
13. Christian Petracca (2014)
14. Ollie Wines (2012)
15. James Sicily (lower if he doesn't improve his behaviour) (2013)
16. Jack Viney (2012)
17. Orazio Fantasia (2013)
18. Jack Billings (2013)
19. Jake Lever (2014)
20. Dom Sheed (2013)

Players in top 20 from 2012 draft year-30%
Players in top 20 from 2013 draft year-50%
Players in top 20 from 2014 draft year-20%

The 2013 draft seem to be conclusively better than 2012, whereas the level of talent of 2014 is yet to be determined with a year or 2 less in development and the draft mostly consisting of KPDs.

At thie moment it seems like 2013>2014>2012.

 

[Sab22]

Billings, Lever, Wines top 10.

 

[Yippy Yi Yeo]

Rookie and pre-season draft picks not included. Both performance and potential considered.

1. Joe Daniher (2012)
2. Ben Brown (2013)
3. Brodie Grundy (2012)
4. Josh Kelly (2013)
5. Patrick Cripps (2013)
6. Harris Andrews (2014)
7. Jack Macrae (2012)
8. Matt Crouch (2013)
9. Marcus Bontempelli (2013)
10. Isaac Heeney (2014)
11. Zach Merrett (2013)
12. Lachie Whitfield (2012)
13. Christian Petracca (2014)
14. Ollie Wines (2012)
15. James Sicily (lower if he doesn't improve his behaviour) (2013)
16. Jack Viney (2012)
17. Orazio Fantasia (2013)
18. Jack Billings (2013)
19. Jake Lever (2014)
20. Dom Sheed (2013)

Players in top 20 from 2012 draft year-30%
Players in top 20 from 2013 draft year-50%
Players in top 20 from 2014 draft year-20%

The 2013 draft seem to be conclusively better than 2012, whereas the level of talent of 2014 is yet to be determined with a year or 2 less in development and the draft mostly consisting of KPDs.

At thie moment it seems like 2013>2014>2012.

Josh Kelly ought to be number 1, 3rd in the MVP last year aged 22 behind only dusty and danger, shown more to date than any other player in the list and has potential to be the best player in the competition

 

[Moeydw]

Billings, Lever, Wines top 10.

Could definitely make a case for Wines but who are Billings and Lever pushing out? Both only seem to play well when the team plays well.

 

[TheSierBear]

Josh Kelly ought to be number 1, 3rd in the MVP last year aged 22 behind only dusty and danger, shown more to date than any other player in the list and has potential to be the best player in the competition

It's very subjective, do you really rate rucks (Grundy), Mids, (Kelly) or Key Forwards, (Brown). The subjective nature of this thread aside, no excuses for having Daniher ahead of Ben Brown who is clearly right now the more proven and better player.

That said, the big guys are almost always worth more as they say. - my subjective opinion, so I'll give this a go.

1.) Ben Brown - Best Key Forward
2.) Brody Grundy - Best ruck in the comp.
3.) Harris Andrews - Best Key Defender
4.) Josh Kelly - Best Midfielder
5.) Isaac Heeney
6.) Patrick Cripps
7.) Ollie Wines
8.) Marcus Bontempelli
9.) Matt Crouch
10.) Jack Macrae
11.) Joe Daniher
12.) Darcy Moore
13.) Jordon Degoey
14.) Zac Merret
15.) Christian Petracca
16.) Jake Lever
17.) Lachie Whitfield
18.) Jack Viney
19.) Ozario Fantasia
20.) Jack Billings.

It's also subjective as to how one rates potential over output or vice versa. Based on potential I'm actually being modest in regards to JDG and Moore, Moore obviously being a Key Forward and then JDG's upside is massive and I think most agree on that.

From Essendon Zac Merret started like a bullet, but he is a small bodied midfielder and an accumalator, doesn't have the potential to be bone fida elite like many of the others from these drafts.

Flame away.

 

[Jcpdragonx]

1. Heeney (really believe he's he most gifted player in the league)
2. Grundy
3. Brown
4. Kelly
5. Cripps
6. Bont
7. Andrews
8. Daniher
9. Merrett
10. Macrae
11. Crouch
12. Sicily

 

[Savage Kent]

1. J.Kelly
2. Brown
3. Heeney
4. Grundy
5. Bont
6. Cripps
7. Daniher
8. Wines
9. Crouch
10. Merrett
11. Andrews
12. Macrae
13. Lever
14. Sicily
15. Whitfield
16. Viney
17. Billings
18. Petracca

 

[triggering bro]

Blake Acres top 5

 

[Wild Bill]

Blake Acres top 5

Which player is he better than? Kelly, Bont, Cripps, Brown, Heeney, Grundy?

There is no way you could rate him higher than any of these 6.

 

[triggering bro]

Which player is he better than? Kelly, Bont, Cripps, Brown, Heeney, Grundy?

There is no way you could rate him higher than any of these 6.

All of them

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

What is interesting is when you include their draft number, as shows some bargain drafting like North with Ben Brown.

 

[00Stinger]

It's very subjective, do you really rate rucks (Grundy), Mids, (Kelly) or Key Forwards, (Brown). The subjective nature of this thread aside, no excuses for having Daniher ahead of Ben Brown who is clearly right now the more proven and better player.

That said, the big guys are almost always worth more as they say. - my subjective opinion, so I'll give this a go.

1.) Ben Brown - Best Key Forward
2.) Brody Grundy - Best ruck in the comp.
3.) Harris Andrews - Best Key Defender
4.) Josh Kelly - Best Midfielder
5.) Isaac Heeney
6.) Patrick Cripps
7.) Ollie Wines
8.) Marcus Bontempelli
9.) Matt Crouch
10.) Jack Macrae
11.) Joe Daniher
12.) Darcy Moore
13.) Jordon Degoey
14.) Zac Merret
15.) Christian Petracca
16.) Jake Lever
17.) Lachie Whitfield
18.) Jack Viney
19.) Ozario Fantasia
20.) Jack Billings.

It's also subjective as to how one rates potential over output or vice versa. Based on potential I'm actually being modest in regards to JDG and Moore, Moore obviously being a Key Forward and then JDG's upside is massive and I think most agree on that.

From Essendon Zac Merret started like a bullet, but he is a small bodied midfielder and an accumalator, doesn't have the potential to be bone fida elite like many of the others from these drafts.

Flame away.

Grundy is not the best ruck in the comp

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[triggering bro]

What is interesting is when you include their draft number, as shows some bargain drafting like North with Ben Brown.

Ben Brown was drafted as an over ager & three years older than the players taken in the same draft. Very good player but he should be compared with players the same age taken in the 2010 draft.

 

[Sab22]

Which player is he better than? Kelly, Bont, Cripps, Brown, Heeney, Grundy?

There is no way you could rate him higher than any of these 6.

You will when he wins the brownlow

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Ben Brown was drafted as an over ager & three years older than the players taken in the same draft. Very good player but he should be compared with players the same age taken in the 2010 draft.

Why, when there was nothing stopping clubs taking him in the 1st round?

Would you prefer Brown or McCartin over the course of their whole career?

 

[triggering bro]

Why, when there was nothing stopping clubs taking him in the 1st round?

Would you prefer Brown or McCartin over the course of their whole career?

Cos he’s an old campaigner, unfair to compare with players three years younger.

I’d take Brown, McCartin is rubbish. Hope he improves.

 

[Sauras]

Ordinary list. Grundy 3 good games and is ranked 3rd? Andrews, have you seen him play, Lions bigfooty folk might rave on about him but he's useless. Petracca ahead of Wines, Orazia not in top 50 let alone 20. Jesus I could go on.

 

[triggering bro]

Grundy is not the best ruck in the comp

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If you were starting a new team Grundy would be the first player picked (along with Daniher). Best ruck in the comp rn, probably top 10 player in comp by the end of the year.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Cos he’s an old campaigner, unfair to compare with players three years younger.

I’d take Brown, McCartin is rubbish. Hope he improves.

Of course you can compare them over their career. What do you think people are doing!

 

[triggering bro]

Of course you can compare them over their career. What do you think people are doing!

Compare him to blokes of similar age then or wait until their careers are closer to finished

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Compare him to blokes of similar age then or wait until their careers are closer to finished

Which is what I have been saying!

 

[triggering bro]

Which is what I have been saying!

Mate, are you pissed at the two-up table?

 

[TheSierBear]

Ordinary list. Grundy 3 good games and is ranked 3rd? Andrews, have you seen him play, Lions bigfooty folk might rave on about him but he's useless. Petracca ahead of Wines, Orazia not in top 50 let alone 20. Jesus I could go on.

Grundy has always been an immense talent and was one of the best ruckmen last year. This year he's taken it to another level.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Mate, are you pissed at the two-up table?

Only 1 of us is clearly sober & I'll leave that to others to judge...

 

[triggering bro]

Only 1 of us is clearly sober & I'll leave that to others to judge...

I’ve only had a few