2012 Draft Discussion

[The Flying Belgian]

Wines is the one I'm worried about. A lot of people are saying he has a big head.

I thought it was that he has a big head in the Brett Ebert sense.

 

[Swanny10]

I thought it was that he has a big head in the Brett Ebert sense.

Yes in the circumference sense. Good kid though from what I've seen

 

[JasRulz63]

Jeez imagine Grundy ending up at Collingwood...sliding big time currently.

Wonder who'd we'd choose if Port took Wines and we had the choice between Mayes and Menzel...

 

[Bucking Beads]

Wines at 8 and Lonergan at 23 would add some serious grunt to our midfield.

Do you think we would take Lonergan if we got Wines though. Surely KPP would be high priority with pick 24 and 33

 

[thoselionslads]

If Twomey is right, and Menzel is top 2-3 on talent, I say pull the trigger. Has the potential to be an absolute game breaker - something we ain't got.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Jeez imagine Grundy ending up at Collingwood...sliding big time currently.

Wonder who'd we'd choose if Port took Wines and we had the choice between Mayes and Menzel...

Just can't imagine Port would take a risk on a Victorian country kid when there are two highly rated Croweaters available.

 

[jackess]

Do you think we would take Lonergan if we got Wines though. Surely KPP would be high priority with pick 24 and 33

You never know. We haven't recruited many KPPs recently.

 

[Bucking Beads]

You never know. We haven't recruited many KPPs recently.

Exactly why we should be now. Cupboard is bare

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

You never know. We haven't recruited many KPPs recently.

Assuming we take a mid at pick 8, a KPF is our biggest need and that is why Shaw or O'Brien would be perfect. Sounds like Shaw could be available at 23 but word is that O'Brien will go to the Pies.

 

[JasRulz63]

Just can't imagine Port would take a risk on a Victorian country kid when there are two highly rated Croweaters available.

Depends though. Say they rate Wines at 3, but Mayes and Menzel around 9 and 10, they might feel the risk will be worth it. Especially if he interviewed well.

 

[BlackCaviar]

so if it comes down to wines or menzel at our pick who should it be?

 

[lionshine]

I think come draft time Brodie Grundy will be snapped up earlier. I think a player who is a as talented as he is and still has so much potential to fulfil could not possibly slide all the way top pick 17. I would be so happy if we got Oliver Wines. Ready made player and I think he would be a big steal at pick 8. Wines and Moloney could fix our clearance problem next year straight away.

 

[Harris Specter]

Cue the meltdown (positive) when we do get Wines tomorrow.

 

[cotter101]

If Twomey is right, and Menzel is top 2-3 on talent, I say pull the trigger. Has the potential to be an absolute game breaker - something we ain't got.

Mind you Stringer was a possible pick 1. I'm hoping we pick him up if there at #8, he is a true elite prospect capable of playing a variety of positions

 

[Panthera]

Exactly why we should be now. Cupboard is bare

It's ONLY the JB replacement that worries me; the backs look ok for the next 3 - 5 seasons, with Clarke developing in the ressies. Unless there is a standout KPF, I say take best available with our 2nd and 3rd rd. picks

#8 Menzel
#23 Membrey
#32 Lonergan

 

[chopperduck]

Agree with Panthera. Unless there is a KPF that we are confident in, i think we should stay with best available. However, i would hope we would use 1 of 24 or 33 on a high risk/reward type player, such as a White. Considering Wines was a long shot at best, and now might be a possibility, perhaps we might be happy enough to take him, then use the other 2 picks on some KPP depth.

I'm very much with Quig's line of thinking with this draft, go for the high risk high reward type KPPs in this draft, don't play it safe. There isn't much in the way of top shelf KPP quality in this draft, you'll have to find a gem in the rough this year.

 

[chopperduck]

You don't revise phantom drafts unless you're pretty sure that's what will happen. IMO there is a greater than 50% chance that Ollie win be a Lion this time tomorrow.

Agree, to revise the phantom draft on the AFL website, he must have got some late mail. Come on dogs, let Wines slip through.

 

[WhiteLionFeva]

Agree with Panthera. Unless there is a KPF that we are confident in, i think we should stay with best available. However, i would hope we would use 1 of 24 or 33 on a high risk/reward type player, such as a White. Considering Wines was a long shot at best, and now might be a possibility, perhaps we might be happy enough to take him, then use the other 2 picks on some KPP depth.

I'm very much with Quig's line of thinking with this draft, go for the high risk high reward type KPPs in this draft, don't play it safe. There isn't much in the way of top shelf KPP quality in this draft, you'll have to find a gem in the rough this year.

That's why I like Siggins as a KPD. He is similar height to Clarke at 196 but slightly heavier (88kg vs 83), is mobile and seems to have a good dose of aggression. And he's from Tassie so no go home factor.

 

[theteamtobeat]

There is no way Port will take Wines if they have three talented SA to draft from (Grundy, Menzel and Mayes). If Wines gets to us, then is a another Daniel Rich situation. I'll be praying to the footy gods to get Wines to Brisbane.

 

[theteamtobeat]

Best Late Mail I heard for along time. Come on Wines!!!

 

[Lace Out]

Is Wines really 89 kegs as listed in an afl article ??

 

[theteamtobeat]

Yes! Wines is a mature kid. He has a more mature body then as Dustin Martin and Rich when they got drafted.

 

[theteamtobeat]

Interesting reading the Phantom Draft, any chance of drafting Dayle Garlett at pick 23 and Mason Shaw at pick 33.

 

[Haso]

Will the draft be broadcast online again like last year? One of the radio stations, if I recall correctly.

 

[luthor]

I thought it was that he has a big head in the Brett Ebert sense.

that's not a big head.

That's a MEGA head.