2012 Draft Discussion

PattyKwasagun · May 11, 2012

thoselionslads said:
Ah ok.

Claye hasn't played reserves at Mt Gravatt, only seniors..

Must've been under 18's then? I was just casually walking by and watching, didn't look like seniors though.

Viceregal · May 11, 2012

*If* all of our guys came along the way we would like them to ... do we have a full competative and challengable team or do we still have holes in our list that there is simply no one even tagged for that role as yet?

chopperduck · May 11, 2012

Speed is still the biggest thing we lack, with both center square mids and small forwards. But considering the age and state of the list, i think it is wise for the club to sure up our KPP at both ends going forward now. We will lose quality talls at either ends over the next few years. Must draft for that now, not in a few years time.

Quick players can come into the team more easily when needed. KPP can take 3-5 years to get anything out of them.

Balony_pony16 · May 12, 2012

chopperduck said:
Speed is still the biggest thing we lack, with both center square mids and small forwards. But considering the age and state of the list, i think it is wise for the club to sure up our KPP at both ends going forward now. We will lose quality talls at either ends over the next few years. Must draft for that now, not in a few years time.

Quick players can come into the team more easily when needed. KPP can take 3-5 years to get anything out of them.

starting to agree...of the players we have either missed out on or passed on in the passed few years they are speed types like Jetta, Rioli, Motlop, Davey, Bennell etc...

If we can land a elite super fast mid The I would be damm happy for us to land one with our first pick.

But if the best mids are plodder types (redden, rich, rocky types etc...), then I would say lock in a gun forward if available

Balony_pony16 · May 12, 2012

Dayle Garlett...looks a ripper player and just what we need
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gmUnzaWAtI

Haggis McHaggis · May 12, 2012

The delivery on either foot is certainly impressive, and a good grab. Doesn't look extremely quick in that vision though.

dane000 · May 12, 2012

speed can be bought cheaply

lionshine · May 12, 2012

Balony_pony16 said:
Dayle Garlett...looks a ripper player and just what we need
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gmUnzaWAtI

I have made some inquiries about this kid a few times on the main board. I remember seeing some footage of him last year and I was very impressed. He is the one I want. If he performs well at the Championships he will be Top 5 IMO.

lionshine · May 12, 2012

Haggis McHaggis said:
The delivery on either foot is certainly impressive, and a good grab. Doesn't look extremely quick in that vision though.

He is quite strong for his size as well isn't he! He isn't that fast but he has quick and good decision making skills that make up for it. He also has that Akermanis ability where he can change his kick mid kick.

Getting possies and winning the hard, contested ball is not a weakness of his either. He got 27 disposals last year in a State match for WA. He only needs around 15 disposals to impact a game though. he could play that Yarran role off Half Back I reckon.

Surly Boy · May 12, 2012

There are concerns around Garlett's discipline I thought I read somewhere? didn't he get dumped from the AIS team or something like that?

Bobby Beecroft · May 12, 2012

Garlett - taken out of AIS, recently disciplined by local WA club - will be interesting to see where he ends up. Slider?

Given our precendented risk aversion drafting I wouldn't be holding your breath for us to read out his name.

jackess · May 12, 2012

Bobby Beecroft said:
Garlett - taken out of AIS, recently disciplined by local WA club - will be interesting to see where he ends up. Slider?

Given our precendented risk aversion drafting I wouldn't be holding your breath for us to read out his name.

It's all a ploy by West Coast similar to what they did with Darling to get all the best WA talent. Just ask Wayne Carey.

BigCat2 · May 12, 2012

chopperduck said:
Speed is still the biggest thing we lack, with both center square mids and small forwards. But considering the age and state of the list, i think it is wise for the club to sure up our KPP at both ends going forward now. We will lose quality talls at either ends over the next few years. Must draft for that now, not in a few years time.

Quick players can come into the team more easily when needed. KPP can take 3-5 years to get anything out of them.

It can be argued that we've already looked to address this. If we can get all of Green, Bartlett, Zorko and Docherty into the senior team, we'll look much faster all of a sudden.

But yes, a genuine pacy linebreaker and a nippy small forward won't go astray. I think though that these are 2 of the last pieces of the jigsaw you add to the team, as they're about as 'plug and play' positions as possible. Key position players and inside midfielders are the building blocks.

chopperduck · May 12, 2012

BigCat2 said:
I think though that these are 2 of the last pieces of the jigsaw you add to the team, as they're about as 'plug and play' positions as possible. Key position players and inside midfielders are the building blocks.

Yup, exactly my point. Your genuine mids and KPPs take awhile to develope, but those pacy pure speed players can pretty much come straight in and make an impact. Hence why i think it's important we get our KPP at both ends sorted now, because we will need them 3-5 years time.

lionshine · May 12, 2012

Surly Boy said:
There are concerns around Garlett's discipline I thought I read somewhere? didn't he get dumped from the AIS team or something like that?

I pumped him up as much as I could. I knew someone would add this into it though haha. Anyway. he is still a talented kid.

patfullfankezz · May 12, 2012

lionshine said:
I pumped him up as much as I could. I knew someone would add this into it though haha. Anyway. he is still a talented kid.

You can have all the talent you want (Albert Proud and Rhan Hooper spring to mind) but if you're lazy and have a bad attitude you'll go no where fast.

Learnt the hard way

lionshine · May 12, 2012

patfullfankezz said:
You can have all the talent you want (Albert Proud and Rhan Hooper spring to mind) but if you're lazy and have a bad attitude you'll go no where fast.

Learnt the hard way

Yes that is very true. What is the point you are trying to make?

patfullfankezz · May 12, 2012

lionshine said:
Yes that is very true. What is the point you are trying to make?

I just read the above posts about his discipline issues, I think that would go against him for being drafted to the Lions (we've been burnt before).

I always hope players can clean up their acts though and come good. I had my fingers crossed for Albert Proud.

lionshine · May 12, 2012

patfullfankezz said:
I just read the above posts about his discipline issues, I think that would go against him for being drafted to the Lions (we've been burnt before).

I always hope players can clean up their acts though and come good. I had my fingers crossed for Albert Proud.

Ok, thanks for the reply. I just didn't really understand what you meant but that reply clears it up

whatboutbob · May 24, 2012

The U18 champs kick off on Saturday.

Div 1 players to watch

Div 2 players to watch

I believe the games on July 4th are being broadcast on foxtel (+ maaaybe those on July 5th?).

Anyone getting along to the games?

Anyone interested in any players in particular?

Quigley · May 24, 2012

I will be going to Blacktown next weekend to watch:

Qld v WA
NSW v Vic Country

and then the following weekend to Princess Park to watch:

Vic Country v Qld
Vic Metro v Tas

Good chance to get a look at some of our academy players. Also Mason Shaw from WA is a guy I will be watching. I think he will be right on the cards for us if we don't win a heap more games. It's a shame I won't get a chance to see SA live this year. There are quite a few guys who I really like from that team. Mayes in particular is someone who I think could be a champion player.

For those interested it is also worth noting that the last two rounds of the Div 1 games will be telecast this year rather than the usual last round only. They will certainly be getting taped in our household.

cmt26 · May 24, 2012

whatboutbob said:
The U18 champs kick off on Saturday.

Div 1 players to watch

Div 2 players to watch

I believe the games on July 4th are being broadcast on foxtel (+ maaaybe those on July 5th?).

Anyone getting along to the games?

Anyone interested in any players in particular?

Keep an eye out for a kid called James Tsitas from Vic Country. Is eligible for the draft next year and will go top 20. Tough midfielder who is an animal inside. Won Vic Country U16 MVP at last years champs and has been playing good footy for the Falcons this year.

thoselionslads · May 24, 2012

No secret I've been keen on Ives, Boston and Cameron for a while. Interested to see how they go against the best their age.

Qld have very high hopes for Boston.

New Qld coaching staff this year, a move in the right direction.

Quigley · May 24, 2012

The coaching for the last few years has been terrible. Hopefully the new group show something.

Caiphus · May 24, 2012

Jesse Lonergan sounds pretty good for another Tassie inside mid... 86kgs at only 6'0" is pretty strong bodied for a 17 year old.

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