2012 Draft Discussion

[jjami15]

I'd like to see us take Hogan if we can get him. I don't know if pick 8 will be enough though. The Bulldogs and Demons could use an elite key forward prospect too and they've got two picks ahead of us. GWS could get pick 4 or 6 or both for their mini draft picks. Hogan if we can get him, but Garlett or Kennedy if we can't.

IMO I don't think so much WB but Definately Melb do. But it's elite mids first and foremost I feel that they need ASAP.

 

[dlanod]

IMO I don't think so much WB but Definately Melb do. But it's elite mids first and foremost I feel that they need ASAP.

WB has quite a few KPF prospects.

Now they just need a good one...

 

[cotter101]

The more I start to think of it, another Polec type player would be handy.

Jackson Macrae is one to look at, he is similar to Polec but has a better defensive game.
Averaged 19 disposals, 1 goal at 73.8% efficiency at the u18 champs.

 

[chopperduck]

What are the prospects on KPP around the pick 20-30 mark? We've shown in the past we seem to rank all draftees in order of talent based on our own judgement. We then draft the highest rated player in the list based on needs relative to pick worth. If there isn't much back around 30, we might go tall first up depending on who is available. Eg, if mason Shaw is there we take him and go tall, if not, we then go small and look for a tall worth our next pick etc.

Is it really a choice of Hogan if you can, Shaw or forget it?

 

[cotter101]

What are the prospects on KPP around the pick 20-30 mark? We've shown in the past we seem to rank all draftees in order of talent based on our own judgement. We then draft the highest rated player in the list based on needs relative to pick worth. If there isn't much back around 30, we might go tall first up depending on who is available. Eg, if mason Shaw is there we take him and go tall, if not, we then go small and look for a tall worth our next pick etc.

Is it really a choice of Hogan if you can, Shaw or forget it?

Kristan Jaksch - Is one who is starting to rise up the rankings. I'd consider with our compo pick/2nd rounder.

Marco Paparone - Probably wont be power forward but can push up the ground and have an impact.

Tim O'Brien - Probably a bit underrated on here, He is a strong contested mark and a reliable kick for goal. His ground work is very good and so is his forward pressure.

I'd probably pick O'Brien out of that bunch.

But I think there is a better range of key defenders in this draft than there is key forwards.

 

[theteamtobeat]

I don't think we can get Hogan as Melbourne and Bulldogs are keen on him. If we don't get Tippett then Manson Shaw will be picked up via our first round selection (averaging 4 goals in the WAFL this season) or a classy fast midfielder (likey to be Garlett or Sam Mayes)

 

[PattyKwasagun]

I don't think we can get Hogan as Melbourne and Bulldogs are keen on him. If we don't get Tippett then Manson Shaw will be picked up via our first round selection (averaging 4 goals in the WAFL this season) or a classy fast midfielder (likey to be Garlett or Sam Mayes)

I'd be seriously tempted to see if GWS would trade mini draft pick 2 for our pick 8. If we can get Hogan with it, brilliant, but if not we pick up Martin who I think may well be a better player than any of the other mids we'd get at that pick. Thoughts?

 

[Gibbo_88]

I'd be seriously tempted to see if GWS would trade mini draft pick 2 for our pick 8. If we can get Hogan with it, brilliant, but if not we pick up Martin who I think may well be a better player than any of the other mids we'd get at that pick. Thoughts?

I'm all for Hogan based on what others have said on the phantom draft board that have watched him. A KPP would most likely spend most of their first season in the reserves. We need some top talent in the 192-5 range

 

[Bucking Beads]

Given that there is a high chance of pick 8 being traded is there any good KPD choices going to be around at our later picks??

 

[theteamtobeat]

I'd be seriously tempted to see if GWS would trade mini draft pick 2 for our pick 8. If we can get Hogan with it, brilliant, but if not we pick up Martin who I think may well be a better player than any of the other mids we'd get at that pick. Thoughts?

Unless we fail to get Tippurt then I can see the club gunning for pick number 2 in the mini draft, but that's if we fail to get Tippett.

 

[cotter101]

Given that there is a high chance of pick 8 being traded is there any good KPD choices going to be around at our later picks??

I'd like to think Tanner Smith would be available at our compo pick.

Tom Clurey is another I rate highly.

Plowman will probably be long gone if we trade pick 8.

 

[POBT]

Unless we fail to get Tippurt then I can see the club gunning for pick number 2 in the mini draft, but that's if we fail to get Tippett.

Yeah, I'm of the view that actually using pick 8 is probably option 3 for us.

Option 1 - trade to Adelaide for Tippett
Option 2 - have a crack at MD#2 and snaffle Hogan
Option 3 - use it in the 2012 draft

 

[lionsrthebest]

Hey to all the lions supports we are the best forget the rest -- This is a list i would be willing to trade or delist
Banfield, Todd
Bartlett, Callum
Buchanan, Amon
Cornelius, Aaron -- prefer to keep -but only if there are no other options to secure a mini draft pick
Drummond, Josh
Golby, Mitchell prefer to
but only if there are no other options to secure a mini draft pick
Harwood, Ryan prefer to keep
Hawksley, James
Hudson, Ben
Lisle, Jordan
Maguire, Matt
Patfull, Joel
Raines, Andrew
Retzlaff, Bryce
Sheldon, Sam

Stiller, Cheynee
Players i want on my wish list - Brian coleman -broome ,,braedon mclean , chris yarran ..jesse hogan ,jack martim . ben kennedy , dayle garlett ,
jed anderson ,, emmanuel irra ,, masomn shaw ,liam mcbean ,,tipungwuti ,,josh simpson,,

 

[lionsrthebest]

speed and skill is the key to success

 

[cotter101]

Hey to all the lions supports we are the best forget the rest -- This is a list i would be willing to trade or delist
Banfield, Todd
Bartlett, Callum
Buchanan, Amon
Cornelius, Aaron -- prefer to keep -but only if there are no other options to secure a mini draft pick
Drummond, Josh
Golby, Mitchell prefer to
but only if there are no other options to secure a mini draft pick
Harwood, Ryan prefer to keep
Hawksley, James
Hudson, Ben
Lisle, Jordan
Maguire, Matt
Patfull, Joel
Raines, Andrew
Retzlaff, Bryce
Sheldon, Sam

Stiller, Cheynee
Players i want on my wish list - Brian coleman -broome ,,braedon mclean , chris yarran ..jesse hogan ,jack martim . ben kennedy , dayle garlett ,
jed anderson ,, emmanuel irra ,, masomn shaw ,liam mcbean ,,tipungwuti ,,josh simpson,,

I'd keep Golby, Harwood, Drummond, Hudson, Lisle, Maguire, Patful, Raines and Retzlaff.

Cant possibly be willing to trade/delist them unless its for something very good, They all are important players going into the future imo. Delisting Goose and Patful would see our back 6 crumble.

 

[lionsrthebest]

I'd keep Golby, Harwood, Drummond, Hudson, Lisle, Maguire, Patful, Raines and Retzlaff.

Cant possibly be willing to trade/delist them unless its for something very good, They all are important players going into the future imo. Delisting Goose and Patful would see our back 6 crumble.

I would go after saint backman Goddard in the free agency and trade to get sam gilbert qld to have back line
coleman-broome merrit hanley
sam docherty gilbert goddard

 

[cotter101]

I would go after saint backman Goddard in the free agency and trade to get sam gilbert qld to have back line
coleman-broome merrit hanley
sam docherty gilbert goddard

I prefer our backline the way it is now. Our backline is very good.

Surely your trolling.

 

[lionsrthebest]

there is an old saying sometimes to move forward you must move bcak 1st-- Goddard would be a great addition to our back line

 

[The Flying Belgian]

there is an old saying sometimes to move forward you must move bcak 1st-- Goddard would be a great addition to our back line

For how many years?

 

[cotter101]

there is an old saying sometimes to move forward you must move bcak 1st-- Goddard would be a great addition to our back line

He would be but there is no point in getting him.

We need key position forward and key position defenders.

 

[lionsrthebest]

forgot adocck and lester in the backline options as well

 

[cotter101]

Is this Gubby Allen?

 

[cotter101]

forgot adocck and lester in the backline options as well

Hahaha, why's that?

 

[chopperduck]

Trading away every established player to continuously try get better players or draft picks will keep you perpetually in a rebuilding phase. Like a hamster in a hamster wheel. This isn't madden or nba live where u can trade rubbish for all the top players.

 

[lionsrthebest]

- as for options in forward line go after Jesse hogan and mason shaw --- brown will be there to nuture them

For how many years?

How long ? - depend on who we recuit - and how desparate these guys to be successful at the elite level - still stick with current lions 2015 target