Opinion 2012 draft thread.

[Silvagnis]

Name that has caught mty eye is Jackson Macrae.

Outside mid/Forward who kicks long and has a real turn of pace. Apparantly excels at getting kicks out of poor situations

Bolter: Macrae - might find himself close to the top 10 with a BOG in the TAC Cup grand final.

I'm with Pykie. I've got Macrae as my bolter also. Has come from a fair way back and I wouldn't be shocked to see him go top 5

I don't think Macrae is really all that much of a bolter. He was always around that first round mark, and with his size/style, a move to the top 10 isn't all that surprising. If anything, I think he is being slightly overrated now that more people have jumped on him.

#4 Melbourne (Compensation Pick) – Jackson Macrae (VIC – Mid/Fwd)
Height: 188cm, Weight: 75kg, DOB: 03/08/1994
Recruited from: Oakleigh Chargers
Style: Scott Pendlebury (Early career without that developed inside game)
Player comparison: Jared Polec
Range: 3-15
Profile: Macrae has really come on this year and developed into one of the more intriguing prospects this year. Macrae is a highly skilled and high production outside player who has really played some fantastic football throughout the u18 champs with his production and with his incredible ability by foot. Macrae’s kicking ability is a real standout feature – has great penetration and can kick accurately over a range of distances up to 55m and hit targets in dangerous positions. Finishing ability around goal good. Really weights his kicks beautifully and with regularity finds the correct target. Even under pressure in positions where he has no right to get a clear kick off to a target he still has great ability to find the right target up the field. Has rare poise and composure and seems to have more time than the next player in the same way Pendlebury does. Reads the play well both offensively and defensively allowing him to get to the right positions. Marking ability above average and field marking ability as well as marking ability behind the ball is good. The other feature in Macrae’s game that makes him stand out from the pack is his running ability. Has really impressive pace and with it a very high work rate and excellent endurance which allows him to get so much of the ball around the ground.

8. Brisbane - Jackson Macrae (188cm midfielder - Oakleigh)

Coming into the Championships, Macrae was typically a talented but inconsistent midfielder. He had been playing all over the ground, from the back lines to the wing and also up forward. But playing for Vic Metro he really found his position, and since then has been performing very well. He is an excellent size for an outside runner who pushes forward, and has the speed to go with it. In terms of agility with the ball in hand and also winning the ground ball, he'd be right at the top of the class - and he seems to have a handy knack for evading tackles too. AFL Comparison: Steele Sidebottom.

Some of our supporters would have a meltdown if we picked another inside and outside mid or utility around the 188 cm mark.

GET MACRAE.



Good name too.

 

[4thchicken]

GET CHEN - http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/chinese-athlete-gets-jumpstart-into-afl-20120921-26cgw.html

I've always thought we should have a look at some chinese martial artist types for international rookie listing*

184cm with an 86cm standing vertical leap (8cm > natanui) - leap developed as a result of an interest in basketball (notable b/c it seems that many basketball converts have good agility/lateral movement and vision)

Whilst he has absolutely no AFL background that sort of raw athleticism would surely be tempting for a recruiter?

*disclaimer - I'm asian

 

[zeeCFC]

GET CHEN - http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/chinese-athlete-gets-jumpstart-into-afl-20120921-26cgw.html

I've always thought we should have a look at some chinese martial artist types for international rookie listing*

184cm with an 86cm standing vertical leap (8cm > natanui) - leap developed as a result of an interest in basketball (notable b/c it seems that many basketball converts have good agility/lateral movement and vision)

Whilst he has absolutely no AFL background that sort of raw athleticism would surely be tempting for a recruiter?

*disclaimer - I'm asian

that is an insane leap

 

[4thchicken]

that is an insane leap

Yup - 86cm standing leap is 8cm better than the current AFL combine record (78cm, Natanui).

His running leap was recorded at 99cm - which would have put him 4th all time in the AFL combine (natanui/brenan @ 102cm, gourds @ 101cm)

According to AFL website - basketball/Volleyball background + did well in short track n field events (suggests pace?)

Lin Jong (dogs) is an asian athlete that seems to have tracked ok after having played footy for just 4 years - Chen seems to have similar physical attributes but potentially to a much higher level.

Surely worth a punt - particularly given that full time AFL development > school/under18 development.

 

[zeeCFC]

Yup - 86cm standing leap is 8cm better than the current AFL combine record (78cm, Natanui).

His running leap was recorded at 99cm - which would have put him 4th all time in the AFL combine (natanui/brenan @ 102cm, gourds @ 101cm)

According to AFL website - basketball/Volleyball background + did well in short track n field events (suggests pace?)

Lin Jong (dogs) is an asian athlete that seems to have tracked ok after having played footy for just 4 years - Chen seems to have similar physical attributes but potentially to a much higher level.

Surely worth a punt - particularly given that full time AFL development > school/under18 development.

only similarity to Jong would be their midfielder size and Asian heritage.

Not sure he would "surely be worth the punt" as he'd be very very raw not having a native game like Gaelic that involves the same kicking style.

 

[Blue Flame]

only similarity to Jong would be their midfielder size and Asian heritage.

Not sure he would "surely be worth the punt" as he'd be very very raw not having a native game like Gaelic that involves the same kicking style.

Be handy in an on-field brawl though.

 

[4thchicken]

only similarity to Jong would be their midfielder size and Asian heritage.

Not sure he would "surely be worth the punt" as he'd be very very raw not having a native game like Gaelic that involves the same kicking style.

+ both athletes as opposed to footballers
+ both have basketball backgrounds
+ both have a great leap for their size + reasonably quick

The comparison with Jong was also b/c he didnt start playing football until 15 (ie quite late).

My point being that he has come a long way in 4 years in a semi-professional environment (school, TAC). In might be possible that Chen could develop just as much, if not more in a fully professional environment over 3-4 years

 

[Wickzki]

Would take a punt with our third round choice, not necessarily Chen, if it's an open pick (i.e. not being used to elevate).

 

[zeeCFC]

Would take a punt with our third round choice, not necessarily Chen, if it's an open pick (i.e. not being used to elevate).

There'll be McInnes like talent around our third pick. We just draft as per usual for mine. The cost of having a speculative pick on the list for 2 years is too big with the lack of nominated rookies now.

 

[Wickzki]

There'll be McInnes like talent around our third pick. We just draft as per usual for mine. The cost of having a speculative pick on the list for 2 years is too big with the lack of nominated rookies now.

If it boils down to a Marcus Davies type marginal type then you take speculative pick. By all means if there is an obvious talent there then you make that selection. I'd rather take a chance on a maybe rather than using a pick on a guy who two years later is guaranteed to be among the delistee discussion.

 

[4thchicken]

Would take a punt with our third round choice, not necessarily Chen, if it's an open pick (i.e. not being used to elevate).

Heh - I'd only ever advocate picking up Chen as a rookie option. Definitely not as a main list choice

 

[Silvagnis]

I'd love Carlton to throw another Bootsma type curve ball and take someone like Jaksch.

Versatile pair key to decider

Chargers coach Justin Wenke says key-position prospect Jaksch's versatility was an attractive proposition for AFL clubs. He's selected at centre half-back but can play forward, as he did with Vic Metro. ''We're really pleased with Kristian's development, we've played him as a key defender and I suppose he's quite unique where he's a great contested mark and can play at both ends of the ground,'' Wenke said.

Versatile pair key to decider

 

[choo]

Oliver Wines just on TAC future stars. Wow impressive kid.
Obviously can play but so mature.
Will interview alone into top of the draft.

 

[choo]

Malthouse has a history of drafting from TAC grand Final.
see Sidebottom, Thomas
Membrey?
Jaksch?
Macrae?

 

[Tanks_Alot]

I'd love Carlton to throw another Bootsma type curve ball and take someone like Jaksch.

Versatile pair key to decider

Versatile pair key to decider

TAC CUP future stars predicted Jaksch to go at 8 to BL.

 

[Sin City]

Malthouse has a history of drafting from TAC grand Final.
see Sidebottom, Thomas
Membrey?
Jaksch?

Graham was brilliant today.

Jaksch had a pretty good first half for TG, Membrey was excellent.

 

[Silvagnis]

Sin City I guess Macrae is now out of range for Carlton?

 

[zeeCFC]

Sin City I guess Macrae is now out of range for Carlton?

Would suit the Dogs very nicely. They need some outside to go with the inside grunt they already have

 

[smashbox gill]

Jackson Macrae just got best on ground in the TAC GF.. kicked a point pretty much on the siren to win the game

 

[Sin City]

Sin City I guess Macrae is now out of range for Carlton?

I'd say so for sure, reckon he will have been flying up the ratings over the last few months. Still got a few question marks personally but he'll go pretty early I'd say.

 

[zeeCFC]

Jackson Macrae just got best on ground in the TAC GF.. kicked a point pretty much on the siren to win the game

Didn't watch the game but wasn't it golden point? Ie. the siren went because he kicked the point?

 

[Silvagnis]

The Dale Thomas TAC GF Bolter Award goes to Macrae.

O'Rourke, Wines or Kennedy might be in the picture if Macrae goes top ten along with Viney and Daniher.

TAC Cup Future Stars Phantom Draft

1. Lachie Whitfield
2. Jimmy Toumpas
3. Jack Viney (F/S)
4. Brodie Grundy
5. Jonathan O'Rorke
6. Sam Mayes
7. Oliver Wines
8. Kristian Jaksch
9. Lachlan Plowman
10. Joe Daniher (F/S)
11. Tom Lee
12. Jackson Macrae
13. Nathan Hrovat
14. Dayle Garlett
15. Nick Vlastuin
16. Tim Membery
17. Josh Simpson
18. James Stewart (F/S)
19. Troy Menzel
20. Jesse Lonergan
21. Jake Stringer

Earlier effort

GWS: Lachlan Whitfield
GC: Johnathan O'Rouke
Melb: Jack Viney
Melb: Brodie Grundy
W.B: Jimmy Toumpass
W.B: Sam Mayes
P.A: Oliver Wines
Bris: Troy Menzel
Rich: Dayle Garlett
Frem: Lachlan Plowman
Carlton: Kristian Jacksh
N.M: Jackson McCrae
Melb: Ben Kennedy
St.K: Tim O'Brien
Cats: Josh Simpson
Ess: Joe Daniher
WCE: Taylor Garner
Coll: Nathan Wright
Syd: Nick Vlastuin
Hawks: Tim Membrey
Adel: Tim Broomehead

Does Membrey look AFL quality with his speed and mobility?

 

[Blue and Silver]

I highly doubt we'll pick up Lee in the first round. That's pushing it a bit

 

[Silvagnis]

I highly doubt we'll pick up Lee in the first round. That's pushing it a bit

The nuff nuffs still think we need to get talls at any cost.

It doesn't appear to Rogers MO to go for a ready made player with an early pick.

 

[Silvagnis]

Graham was brilliant today.

Jaksch had a pretty good first half for TG, Membrey was excellent.

If we use pick 11 on Jaksch (or Stringer), any chance that we can get a decent inside mid such as Parker, Sloane or Robinson type mid with pick 33?