Opinion 2012 draft thread.

[Dramoth]

Played junior footy in his league at an opposition club. I speak to a few people who are still connected to the league but who are almost always negative when it comes to promoting their boys as future AFL guns. They love this kid and suggest he is a great athlete but has an even greater work ethic.

Hopefully he is a good footballer as well as a good athlete... I think that a few of our more impatient supporters are getting sick of the club recruiting athletes instead of footballers

 

[zeeCFC]

Think you are right with Hrovat but gee if he slipped to #39 (unlikely) you would take him wouldnt you? Kennedy much better than Blair and would happily take him anywhere. I have seen a lot of that kid and he is pure class and he is a terrific kid as well.

I agree on SImpson and knew where you were coming from. I would take him at #20 for sure.

I favour Shaw over Jaksch but dont forget I think Jaksch is a very good tall fwd. Seen him play very well there and he looks natural as well. I cant split them.

Anyway it will be nice pondering 3 players around that mix for a while but it will be hard as its still unclear to me where they all land. I have this is a current top 30 but am literally changing every time I look at it so dont read a lot into it, havent matched to clubs yet and have a view after 20-25 its a raffle;

1 Greater Western Sydney Lachie Whitfield
2 Greater Western Sydney Jimmy Toumpas
3 Greater Western Sydney Brody Grundy
4 Melbourne (GWS compensation - Tom Scully) Jonathan O'Rourke
5 Western Bulldogs Sam Mayes
6 Western Bulldogs (GWS compensation - Callan Ward) Lachie Plowman
7 Port Adelaide Jake Stringer
8 Brisbane Lions Ollie Wines
9 Richmond Dayle Gartlett
10 Essendon Joe Daniher
11 Carlton Jackson Macrae
12 Greater Western Sydney Kristian Jaksch
13 Greater Western Sydney Troy Menzel
14 North Melbourne Ben Kennedy
15 Geelong Josh Simpson
16 Fremantle Tim Membrey
17 Collingwood Mason Shaw
18 Collingwood Sam Colquhoun
19 Adelaide Nick Vlaustin
20 Melbourne Taylor Garner
21 Western Bulldogs Nathan Wright
22 Sydney Swans Rory Atkins
23 Brisbane Lions (GC compensation - Michael Rischitelli) Matthew Haynes
24 St Kilda Tom Clurey
25 Gold Coast Jason Pongracic
26 Melbourne Todd Viney
27 Hawthorn Laine Wilkins
28 Port Adelaide Nathan Hrovat
29 Richmond (GC compensation - via Port Adelaide - Nathan Krakouer) Nick Graham
30 Brisbane Lions Liam McBeam

 

[FlowersByIrene]

Im still hoping everyone will be cautious on String and he will fall to our pick
Apparently pre broken leg he was a top 5 talent, post is still a little up in the air, Look at Barlow only jsut got back into form at the end of this season and didn't look even 100% of his opriginal self then.
But if Stringer falls to us even 90% of his original self may be worth pick #11

 

[Suma Magic]

WC board did a mock, I got Carlton. I have NFI about drafting just did it for a bit if fun. Here are the results if you're interested:

ROUND 1
1. GWS - Lachlan Whitfield
2. GCS - Jack Viney
3. MELB - Jimmy Toumpas
4. MELB - Brodie Grundy
5. WB - Sam Mayes
6. WB - Mason Shaw
7. PA - Lachlan Plowman
8. BRIS - Dayle Garlett
9. RICH - Oliver Wines
10. ESS - Joe Daniher (F/S)
11. CARL - Jackson Macrae
12. ST K - Jake Stringer
13. MELB - Jonathan O'Rourke
14. NM - Kristian Jaksch
15. GEEL - Shannon Taylor
16. FRE - Troy Menzel
17. WCE - Tanner Smith
18. COLL - Matthew Haynes
19. ADEL - Tom Clurey
20. GWS - Nick Vlastuin
21. SYD - Ben Kennedy
22. HAW - Sam Colquhoun
23. BRIS - Liam McBean

ROUND 2
24. GWS - Taylor Garner
25. GCS - Tim Membrey
26. MELB - Adam Carter
27. WB - Paul Marschall
28. PA - Nathan Hrovat
29. RICH - Jesse Lonergan
30. BRIS - Tim Broomhead
31. RICH - Lachie Hunter
32. ESS - Nicholas Graham
33. CARL - Tim O'Brien
34. ST K - Josh Simpson
35. NM - Marvin Warrell
36. GEEL - Kane Mitchell
37. FRE - Dean Towers
38. WCE - Jason Pongracic
39. COLL - Nathan Wright
40. ADEL - Marco Paparone
41. SYD - Sam Lowrie
42. HAW - Clay Cameron

ROUND 3
43. GWS - Tom Lee
44. GCS - Jacob Ballard
45. MELB - Dean Kent
46. WB - Dylan Clarke
47. WB - Brian Coleman-Broome
48. PA - Patrick Wilson
49. BRIS - Alex Howson
50. RICH - Rory Atkins
51. ESS - Anthony Tipungwuti
52. CARL - Tom Temay
53. ST K - Matthew McDonough
54. NM - Brant Colledge
55. GEEL - Tom Langdon
56. FRE - Nick Rodda
57. WCE - Mason Wood
58. COLL - Yannick Crowder
59. ADEL - Nic Amato
60. SYD - Laine Wilkins
61. HAW - Cameron Banfield

ROUND 4
62. GWS - Eric Wallace
63. GCS - Jake McKenzie
64. MELB - Emmanuel Irra
65. WB - Jackson Thurlow
66. PA - Sean Lynch
67. BRIS - Andrew Boston
68. RICH - Ryan Morrison
69. ESS - Mark Baguley (R/U)
70. CARL - Shane Nelson
71. ST K - Josh Scott
72. NM - Harrison Marsh
73. GEEL - Brodie Murdoch
74. FRE - Spencer White
75. WCE - Steven Baldasso
76. COLL - Max Duffy
77. ADEL - Tullio Dematteis
78. SYD - Kamdyn McIntosh
79. HAW - Thomas Tyquin

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

WC board did a mock, I got Carlton. I have NFI about drafting just did it for a bit if fun. Here are the results if you're interested:

ROUND 4

70. CARL - Shane Nelson

Nice Work.

How is Shane Nelson travelling? where do you see him playing at AFL level?

 

[Suma Magic]

Nice Work.

How is Shane Nelson travelling? where do you see him playing at AFL level?

Mate I'll be honest, my very limited knowledge of draftees comes from the D & T board.

Although I've read Nelson averaged 25 touches in the WAFL this year and based on form deserves a go. also read somewhere that maybe the eagles and cats invited him to the WA combine, and he performed well there.

 

[Silvagnis]

Im still hoping everyone will be cautious on String and he will fall to our pick
Apparently pre broken leg he was a top 5 talent, post is still a little up in the air, Look at Barlow only jsut got back into form at the end of this season and didn't look even 100% of his opriginal self then.
But if Stringer falls to us even 90% of his original self may be worth pick #11

Or Stringer could struggle like James Strauss who suffered a similar and shocking break against Carlton last year.

Huge call to take someone who might not get back to their best.

Dayle Gartlett

 

[smashbox gill]

Im still hoping everyone will be cautious on String and he will fall to our pick
Apparently pre broken leg he was a top 5 talent, post is still a little up in the air, Look at Barlow only jsut got back into form at the end of this season and didn't look even 100% of his opriginal self then.
But if Stringer falls to us even 90% of his original self may be worth pick #11

Would have been top 3 for sure, ahead of toumpas i believe

 

[zeeCFC]

Love the look of big Spencer White

http://lon-cdn220-is-11.se.bptvpd.ngcdn.telstra.com/pd_afl1/OnDemand/AFL/2012/White_Highlights.mp4

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Love the look of big Spencer White

http://lon-cdn220-is-11.se.bptvpd.ngcdn.telstra.com/pd_afl1/OnDemand/AFL/2012/White_Highlights.mp4

Yep I'm on the bandwagon ... but he seems to be one in one of those bands, that will be taken between our first and second pick.

btw - is he an islander?

 

[zeeCFC]

Yep I'm on the bandwagon ... but he seems to be one in one of those bands, that will be taken between our first and second pick.

btw - is he an islander?

is this a set up for a "racist!" post?

...no, he isn't

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

is this a set up for a "racist!" post?

...no, he isn't

RACIST !!!!

 

[blueboy25]

Nice Work.

How is Shane Nelson travelling? where do you see him playing at AFL level?

I did make a mention of Nelson a few weeks back on this thread so I will claim it if he gets picked up by the blues.

Dominated the recent WA draft screening scoring 29 out of 30 in the kicking test.

http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/4311/newsid/149725/default.aspx

 

[btemplar88]

Get oliver wines in team at all cost IMO. trade 11 and warncock to gws for pick 3 and pick 13

 

[btemplar88]

maybe add a fringe player for a sweatner. lets say joseph

 

[Silvagnis]

Warncock.

Hee hee.

 

[No1Suspect]

Get oliver wines in team at all cost IMO. trade 11 and warncock to gws for pick 3 and pick 13

I think your getting GWS and Melbourne mixed up

 

[Sin City]

I think your getting GWS and Melbourne mixed up

You're kind. I think he's getting the real world and fantasy land mixed up.

 

[Silvagnis]

Bouncing back

If only O'Rourke was a chance to slide to our pick due to injuries.

 

[zeeCFC]

I put nine players names down here the other day and most would have been very happy to get any one of those.

At this stage:

We won't see: Daniher, Whitfield, Toumpas, Mayes and Grundy................................5 players

We may yet see one of these drop: Wines, O'Rourke, Plowman, Macrae...................4 players

If we don't, the next grouping may be: Stringer, Garlett, Vlatsuin, Clurey, Garner.....5 players

Or we may just go for a forward if we see it as a needs basis.

At this stage and from all reports we're going to get a good player, but let's just hope they don't come along with an injury curse.

Wouldn't be as happy if we picked up Clurey or Mason Shaw, really need to, IMO, use our first pick on someone who will be in our midfield rotations in the future.

Wines/O'Rourke would be a dream come true, very unlikely though. I'm still on the Stringer bandwagon though. Macrae, Garlett I could deal with but really hope we take Stringer over Vlastuin/Garner etc.

...That probably makes very little sense. [/wait for Thy's "I agree zee, that made no sense"]

 

[smashbox gill]

i

Wouldn't be as happy if we picked up Clurey or Mason Shaw, really need to, IMO, use our first pick on someone who will be in our midfield rotations in the future.

Wines/O'Rourke would be a dream come true, very unlikely though. I'm still on the Stringer bandwagon though. Macrae, Garlett I could deal with but really hope we take Stringer over Vlastuin/Garner etc.

...That probably makes very little sense. [/wait for Thy's "I agree zee, that made no sense"]

im not so keen on mcrae as although he is a talent, he will not have an immediate impact as a Wine/O'rourke/stringer or even a garlett

 

[Silvagnis]

Immediate impact shouldn't come into it.

Yarran >>>>> Rich

Macrae would be a good get and a chance to play senior footy like Lucas who was good in 2010.

 

[Omega Blue]

i

im not so keen on mcrae as although he is a talent, he will not have an immediate impact as a Wine/O'rourke/stringer or even a garlett

i dont tink we really need someone who will make an immediate impact next year i'm more than happy to pick up a wingard esque player who has a high ceiling but falls over when he sneezes. put them in the twos for two years and unviel them in 2015. i think this draft is about picking midfielders for the future.

then again the problem with footballers is thhey tend to think there shat don't stank and when they aren't getting game time at 19 they may leave for greater opportunities.

 

[Silvagnis]

Absolutely so.

Sooner have the kid we get to play a handful of games next year if he is indeed good enough to do so.
It was terrific for Bootsma to have earned his games this year when his body may have suggested otherwise.

As long as we get a long term gun, I don't care if he plays three games and doesn't get a touch in any of them like one Kade Simpson.

We need to take a long term view and just look for the best talent. Jaksch might take longer to develop, but he could be groomed as a replacement for Waite.

Carltonfc.com.au

“Now Geelong’s one of those clubs who draft and just sit and wait, and Carlton is at that point. They haven’t been used to that before - it was more ‘There’s the best player, let’s go out and buy him’. The rules have changed and we’ve got to embrace the draft, both the supporters and the footy club

Carltonfc.com.au

 

[Kramer1]

Immediate impact shouldn't come into it.

Yarran >>>>> Rich

Cool. When is that due to happen?
Sky is the limit when it comes to Yarran but Rich quietly went about putting a great year together. Think the suggestion that Yarran has been, is or will be a considerably better footballer is a bit premature.

Anyway...to the draft watchers out there am I correct in thinking that it is a bit more wide open this year after the first three picks? Seem to recall more consistency in phantom drafts etc in recent years.