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Opinion 2012 draft thread.

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zeeCFC said:
Emma Quayle seems to think we want Macrae the most and would lookat Jaksch too if he slips, same with Mayes.

Of those likely to be available she listed Hrovat, Lonergan, Kennedy and said we weren't too interested in Stringer. No mention of Vlastuin.
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Was a bit suprised that we werent looking into stringer and menzel if they were to be available at our pick
 
smashbox gill said:
Was a bit suprised that we werent looking into stringer and menzel if they were to be available at our pick
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Although I think both would be good picks if the club is prioritizing longevity I can hardly blame them.

This draft will be the last or so of a hardcore of player we'd want for a second wave push post-Judd.

In 2015 we could be without Carazzo (32), Judd (32), Simpson(31), Waite(32), Duigan (31), Scotland(35).

But we'd still have:

Mclean, Walker, Jamison, Betts, Armfield at 29

Warnock, Murphy and Rowe at 28

Hampson, White and (hypothetically) Collins at 27

Ellard, Kreuzer, Gibbs, Robinson, Joseph, Garlett, Laidler, Curnow, Tuohy, Henderson at 26

Casboult, O'Keefe and Yarran at 25

Davies and Lucas at 24

Mitchell, McCarthy, McInnes, Watson and Bootsma at 23

Buckley at 22

and this year's crop at 21.
 
Sheephead said:
Have an opinion, but this post helps me out a bit.

Stringer had a poor running gait because of fatigue on the leg. Having said that, he kicked 10 goals in his first game back from the injury at TAC level. Going back to the original point though, experts quoted in the Herald Sun suggest that the gait and injury could be managed and fixed in about 3 months. Id be happy to take Stringer and give him a year to recoup. Its a broken bone with a bit of muscle deterioration as a result, it will heal with medical intervention and can be made stronger if required. Its not like a knee, or shoulder or hip, where they are joints, this is purely skeletal. I have confidence he will be fine and the talent he possesses cannot be overlooked if he is available. He fills a number of holes as a player.

Doubt we take a primary big with the first pick as we do need successions for Judd and Carrazzo etc. Could see a big selected in the 2nd or 3rd though and also a run and carry player late, unless they chose to take the chance on Reimers. As for the 1st, I would like a Juddesque type and to me that aint Kennedy. Great little player sure, but we have greater needs IMO. Toumpas, Wines and ORourke will be gone, so I see Lonergan as the next best. I know Im pushing this barrow a bit, but if we dont take the quintessential with Stringer, a hard in and under player should be our next option and this kid is all that plus some.

Stringer (Lonergan)
White
Thurlow
Taylor

Rookie - Ruckman who can play and develop in the Ants.. (Like Sammy Jacobs)
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I agree with Jake Stringer at first pick 100% and Spencer White is the key tall we should target, have a look at his youtube display. The other thing Stephen Kernahan being from Glenelg should tell the recruiters to consider taking man mountain Ethan Gill as a late pick or rookie below. Ethan Gill is 17 turns 18 December 31. He came to Glenelg from the country late so didn't have a proper pre season. He plays his footy like a 24 year old strong and hard at it, still needs to get a bit of speed in the legs, which he will - Brenton Hole Glenelg Talent manager quoted on Inside Football. He is 194cm and 94 kilo.
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Blue and Silver said:
Although I think both would be good picks if the club is prioritizing longevity I can hardly blame them.

This draft will be the last or so of a hardcore of player we'd want for a second wave push post-Judd.

In 2015 we could be without Carazzo (32), Judd (32), Simpson(31), Waite(32), Duigan (31), Scotland(35).

But we'd still have:

Mclean, Walker, Jamison, Betts, Armfield at 29

Warnock, Murphy and Rowe at 28

Hampson, White and (hypothetically) Collins at 27

Ellard, Kreuzer, Gibbs, Robinson, Joseph, Garlett, Laidler, Curnow, Tuohy, Henderson at 26

Casboult, O'Keefe and Yarran at 25

Davies and Lucas at 24

Mitchell, McCarthy, McInnes, Watson and Bootsma at 23

Buckley at 22

and this year's crop at 21.
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Ideally, thats the sort of age spread we should have anyway. Scotland will probably retire at the end of next season. Waite could end up retiring because his body might not stand the rigors of playing a full season of football after next season. Then we will have a couple of guys around the 30 mark and then larger groups working their way down to the bottom aged group. And we should always have a good collection of guys in the mid-ranged age group around the 26-27 year old mark.

it's going to be 2018-19 that is going to concern me the most really... we are going to have a large number of talented players hitting the 29-30 year old mark. Admittedly there is a couple in that list who more than likely wont be there in 6-7 years time... but regardless of that, there is at least 7 players in that 26 year old range we will be missing in 8-9 years time.

So hopefully next year, we will be a bit more active in the trading market and get a bunch more picks to pick up some more talented kids in the first and second rounds to replace those guys.
 
Oh yeah, I could really like seeing White in navy blue.
 
There is a write up on lonergan on the afl web site and they say his draft range is 15-25 any chance he would slide to pick 36. I would be over the moon if we got Kennedy (or Grundy if he slides) and lonergan with our first 2 picks
 
I've previously heard Rodgers quoted as saying that we need more speed. Any chance that we would pick Garlett or Simpson at pick #11. Not saying that's who I'd like to pick, if it is speed I'd prefer Kennedy
 
ericpascoe said:
Board. How would we feel about Menzel if he slid to 11?
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From where I sit it's a no but I'd back our recruiters in, they have access to all the information they need. Where I have him ranked is in a large part due to my concerns about the LARS, on talent alone he's easily top seven.
 

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Sheephead said:
Ahh none. I would have thought a HIGHLIGHT reel would show me his best actions/attributes. You like him Chief, that's great, good for you. I don't, it's a forum of armchair experts, so be it. Did you pick Bootsma last year??? Didn't think so.
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No, a highlights reel is not a very good way judge a player.
 
Emma seems to think we'd target Jaksch, Mayes or Macrae but hints those 3 will be gone by our pick.

Carlton could look instead for onballers Nathan Hrovat and Jesse Lonergan, versatile Taylor Garner or the zip of Ben Kennedy. Jake Stringer could fall around that mark, though they haven't invested much time in him.
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Menzel/Stringer high risk/high reward but from the sounds of things we'll look for a safer option.
 
ericpascoe said:
Board. How would we feel about Menzel if he slid to 11?
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Would not be disappointed but he isn't going to slot straight into our side and solve any kicking issues. To this end, I'd like to see how we go with what we've got (Interested in seeing how Rowe performs). Would prefer another inside Mid with pace and footskills. For this reason I'd like to think we could go for Lonegan as the kid has a real appetite for the ball, and according to both the Draft Combine the Emma Quayle article above, his footskills have improved out of site. Along with his burst pace and geuine hardness at the ball, I'd like to think he could be our next Judd.

EP, Do you know how the club rates Lonegan or the likelyhood of us grabbing him if Menzel isn't available?
 
ericpascoe said:
Board. How would we feel about Menzel if he slid to 11?
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I'd be happy with the punt.

Kid could be the best in the draft. Reads it better then everyone else and is classy.
 

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Sam Collins is a decent key back prospect, great agility and size. Perfect for defending a hard leading reiwoldt type. Played for oakleigh and was best on in the prelim, would come cheap (late pick) as he can't kick.
 
I like the look of Hrovat. He is not mentioned as a top 15 pick but to me he plays a lot like Marc Murphy.
Is his quality not right up there with Menzel, Stringer or Macrae? Any thoughts?
 

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