Opinion 2012 draft thread.

[zeeCFC]

Wow, that is a big call. You obviously know of what has gone done. I am interested to find out off you C4 if you can spare a chat?
Proud better than Garlett, interesting

You do know he's joking right?

 

[C4[2]Yo`DooR]

Wow, that is a big call. You obviously know of what has gone done. I am interested to find out off you C4 if you can spare a chat?
Proud better than Garlett, interesting

I've heard stories about Garlett from an official club source (not Carlton).

Send me a PM.

 

[monty1104]

LOL

Pardon my cynicism - but is this the same Nathan Lovett-Murray that was charged with drug possesion and driving whilst unlicensed?

I'm sure he'll be a fantastic role model for the impressionable Dayle Garlett.

Not charged with drug possession. One pill was found in a rubbish bin in his home (where he did not live alone) while he was in WA playing against the Eagles. Not sure about the driving while unlicensed charge TBH.

 

[Silvagnis]

The other top ten picks make Macrae look as big as Malcolm In The Middle. Some absolute manchilds in this draft.

 

[Omega Blue]

well he is smoushed between ollie wines and jake stringer

 

[coryne]

well he is smoushed between ollie wines and jake stringer

There does seem to be a fair amount of space between the three new GWS boys. Is there something more to it ??? I thought the three of them were drafted together because they were close

 

[Omega Blue]

that picture makes me realise out bad the lions jumper is

 

[Big Sim]

GWS really have drafted some beasts over the last two years. Could get scary in the not too distant future.

 

[true blue19]

that picture makes me realise out bad the lions jumper is

I don't mind the loins jumper. I hate ports it looks like a bad rip off of the old big V

 

[etsal1]

http://m.couriermail.com.au/sport/a...row-kurt-tippett/story-e6frepf6-1226524535228

It also emerged yesterday that Sydney has Tippett's younger brother, Joel, in its sights.

West Adelaide coach Andrew Collins said the Swans, St Kilda and Carlton had shown a strong interest in rookie-listing the 24-year-old key defender.

"Sydney's been in the mix along with a few other clubs, so it will be interesting to see where he ends up," he said.

We have picks before Sydney and St Kilda in the PSD don't we?

 

[Aphrodite]

http://m.couriermail.com.au/sport/a...row-kurt-tippett/story-e6frepf6-1226524535228




We have picks before Sydney and St Kilda in the PSD don't we?

I read somewhere that we won't be participating in the PSD.

 

[Big Sim]

I read somewhere that we won't be participating in the PSD.

Joel Tippett would be a rookie listing and yes we could snavel him before Saints and Swans with pick 9.

Presumably the other pick would be on Collins and then that's all for us isn't it?

 

[Jeremias]

I don't know why we'd go for Tippett in the rookie draft.

Assuming we are going to have Curnow and Bell as nominated rookies, having a 24 year old that isn't eligible to play in the first half of the season unless a senior listed player is placed on the LTI list, doesn't make all that much sense to me.

I'd rather go with a kid.

 

[Big Sim]

I don't know why we'd go for Tippett in the rookie draft.

Assuming we are going to have Curnow and Bell as nominated rookies, having a 24 year old that isn't eligible to play in the first half of the season unless a senior listed player is placed on the LTI list, doesn't make all that much sense to me.

I'd rather go with a kid.

If we only take rookies with our last two spots someone (I think EP) said we can move two rookies to the senior list during the year, on top of our nominated rookies...any idea if this is even vaguely correct?

 

[Jeremias]

If we only take rookies with our last two spots someone (I think EP) said we can move two rookies to the senior list during the year, on top of our nominated rookies...any idea if this is even vaguely correct?

Not 100% sure, but I think if we are not going to take 2 players either in the PSD or the delisted free agent period, we'll have 2 spots free on our senior list. That would mean we can nominate 2 rookies (Curnow & Bell) who would therefore be eligible for senior selection throughout the season. Not sure where EP (if it was him) got the idea of being able to add 2 more rookies to the senior list on top of that, but if he did indeed say that I'd be inclined to believe him.

 

[I bleed Blue]

Here is EP's post that you are refering to Big Sim.

It's very confusing but I think the deal is you can have 40 + 4 or 38 + 6. So we can take 2, more likely in the rookie draft (one of whom will be Collins) - and then I believe we have the option of upgrading up to 2 rookies in March if we want (to bring us to 40 + 4)

Hope that clears it up.

 

[Jeremias]

Here is EP's post that you are refering to Big Sim.

Hope that clears it up.

Isn't that just stating we'll have 2 nominated rookies, not 2 nominated rookies AND 2 extra open spots?

 

[Stamos]

If we only take rookies with our last two spots someone (I think EP) said we can move two rookies to the senior list during the year, on top of our nominated rookies...any idea if this is even vaguely correct?

EP meant we can have 2 nominated rookies, not 2 NR + 2 more elevated to the senior list.

 

[I bleed Blue]

Isn't that just stating we'll have 2 nominated rookies, not 2 nominated rookies AND 2 extra open spots?

Yes. Thats how I read it anyway.

 

[etsal1]

But with Andy Mac presumably on the long term injury list until at least May, does that mean we could possibly have Curnow & Bell (as nominated rookies) + Tippett (to make up Andy Mac's spot)?

 

[Big Sim]

But with Andy Mac presumably on the long term injury list until at least May, does that mean we could possibly have Curnow & Bell (as nominated rookies) + Tippett (to make up Andy Mac's spot)?

 

[Azul]

Assuming we are going to have Curnow and Bell as nominated rookies, having a 24 year old that isn't eligible to play in the first half of the season unless a senior listed player is placed on the LTI list, doesn't make all that much sense to me.

I'd rather go with a kid.

I realise he's a cult hero on here but the same applies to Collins. If you're going to have 3 senior-capable players vying for 2 positions then one has to miss out. On top of that, it effectively spells curtains for Rhys O'Keeffe who will require two LTI to see any game time.

Anyway, expecting McInness' recovery to be delayed until round 9 so that a 3rd rookie can be elevated for the first 8 weeks.

 

[Jeremias]

Forgot about Andy Mac (), yes his injury would allow a 3rd rookie to be elevated and eligible for senior selection from the beginning of season 2013.

It doesn't spell curtains for ROK because I don't believe you have to break into senior football to warrant elevation at the end of the year.

If he puts in a really good year at the lower level, and doesn't get cut down by injury, then he's put himself in contention for elevation.

Is there still a rule that you can elevate an extra rookie for the 2nd half of the season?

I'd rather put Collins on the rookie list than Joel Tippett. At least we know that Collins can play at senior level.

Tippett has already been delisted by 2 AFL clubs.

 

[Keyza]

Forgot about Andy Mac (), yes his injury would allow a 3rd rookie to be elevated and eligible for senior selection from the beginning of season 2013.

It doesn't spell curtains for ROK because I don't believe you have to break into senior football to warrant elevation at the end of the year.

If he puts in a really good year at the lower level, and doesn't get cut down by injury, then he's put himself in contention for elevation.

Is there still a rule that you can elevate an extra rookie for the 2nd half of the season?

I'd rather put Collins on the rookie list than Joel Tippett. At least we know that Collins can play at senior level.

Tippett has already been delisted by 2 AFL clubs.

After reading through many posts i now have an understanding of how the rookie/nominated rookie lists work (i think).
We have 38 senior players on our list, including 2 veterans. Previous years we would not be able to have any nominated rookie because of the 2 veterans. (am i right so far?).
As the list sizes have been changed next season to 40 and 4 rookie clubs still have the choice of having 38 senior and 6 rookies. The advantage of this is that some of the rookie salaries are excluded from the salary cap.
As we seem to have taken this path we will have 6 rookies and we can use 2 of these as nominated rookies. I am sure many clubs will go down this path if salary cap space is an issue. We have McInnes on the LTI list for the first couple of months so we can upgrade one more rookie and yes there is a rule that clubs can upgrade one rookie at the half way point of the season. Effectively we can have 3 rookies available for most of next year, or more if we get any more LTI (touch wood we dont).

 

[Wickzki]

If we weren't convinced of AC's powers before, then we should be now. An amazing man is our AC.

Won two VFL premierships at 0 and 1 years of age and another at 3.