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Going through Chris's Phantom Draft and looking at who he thinks is available around our two later selections is not bad reading;
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/young-talent-time-a-2012-mock-draft.956131/
34. Richmond - Tim Membrey (188cm forward - Gippsland)
With his recent performances for Gippsland, Tim Membrey has really put his name in lights. He has really been dominating games up forward, and he has been doing it all year. But that doesn't mean he will necessarily get drafted early. For some reason he just seems to keep missing out - he was only a late addition to the AFL/AIS squad and he was left out of the Vic Country team for the first three weeks of the Championships. But I like him, and that's all that matters in this draft. He obviously isn't the biggest forward going around, and that may count against him. But I think he compares quite well with Jack Darling and Stewart Crameri - strong marking forward and a very good shot on goal, just a little on the short side. Because he isn't 195cm, what he needs to do to endear himself to AFL teams is be involved in the defensive pressure - and he does just that. He is a strong tackler and chases hard all day. He has also been pushing up into the midfield this year, to add another string to his bow. But while he is an accurate shot on goal, his field kicking can be a little sloppy at times. And to be honest, I don't know if the whole 'big bodied midfielder' thing will ever happen. I'd much rather take an actual midfielder in the top 25, rather than someone who hasn't played there yet but could maybe become one if all things go right. AFL Comparison: Jack Darling.
35. Essendon - Jason Pongracic (182cm midfielder - Dandenong)
Pongracic is a difficult player to place this year, and in the end I've probably gone lower than what most others would have him. He just hasn't had the greatest season in my eyes. He has had some injuries this year which saw him miss the first few weeks of the Championships and a bit of TAC Cup football this year, but he returned well and began impacting games from the get go - more so as a forward. One issue I have is that I just don't see him being a forward at the next level, he seems to rely heavily on his strength in marking contests in the TAC Cup. But as an inside midfielder, he would have to be one of the stronger ones in the draft. He is just so hard to move in a contest and I do think there is more to his game than just being stronger than everyone else. His attack on the ball will instantly endear him to all 18 coaches, it seems that he prides himself on being at the bottom of every pack. He reminds me a bit of Brent Moloney - although not as damaging a kick. I think he could go anywhere from top 25 to the third round, he is just one of those players - and I think you'd have to focus more on what he could become as a midfielder. AFL Comparison: Brent Moloney.
36. Carlton - Spencer White (194cm forward - Western Jets)
At the start of the year, I had White as one of my top KPFs to watch. That was based largely on potential rather than performances at the time, but as the year has gone on he has started to perform more consistently and I feel as though my initial rating was justified. Unfortunately for White, he had a quiet start to the season which saw him miss selection for Vic Metro in the U18 Championships. That was no doubt a big blow, but he has come back extremely well from that and kicked 30 goals in his last 10 TAC Cup games - that fact saw him upgraded from the State Screening to Draft Combine. And at the Combine, he definitely stood up and showed what he can do. He admittedly still has a long way to go, particularly needs to focus on what he does when he isn't kicking for goal because often he can go missing. But he is a big strong target up forward, is very good in the air and is an accurate shot on goal. What he offers that few others do though, is the athleticism to go with the size. He is a good runner and has an excellent leap. Give him the time, and I think he could be one of the better KPFs from this draft. AFL Comparison: Taylor Walker.
37. St Kilda - Dean Towers (189cm midfielder - North Ballarat)
I'm typically not big on the mature aged players, not many ever make my phantom drafts - I just watch more junior football than the state leagues. But I've been watching a bit more of the VFL this season, and even managed to see a North Ballarat game live and I like what I've seen from Towers. I've seen him compared to Isaac Smith, and I think it's an apt comparison. He has the height, speed and kicking skills of Smith and has a similar story too - coming from what seemed to be nowhere to be a genuine draft chance. His performance at the Combine should act to only improve his draft standing, particularly given the 15 year record he broke. I'd be fairly confident in saying he will go early in the draft, 20-30 early. AFL Comparison: Isaac Smith.
38. North Melbourne - Marvin Warrell (182cm midfielder - South Fremantle)
Warrell is a really interesting prospect. He developed himself a little bandwagon after the Championships, but that seemed to disappear after not too long. But it's back in full force now, on the back of an excellent last month in the WAFL. He has had two BOG performances in Grand Finals in two years for South Fremantle, so he is a real big game player. He has played everywhere from small forward, to midfield and rebounding defender, and has done so with success. In terms of what role he'll play at AFL level, I'm not too sure. I don't think he is as natural a small forward as some other players, so if I were his coach I'd probably be intrigued enough to try to him down back. He is an extremely creative player and also a strong tackler, I could just imagine him weaving his through the opposition as he runs out of the back lines. Would just need to improve his actual defensive game, but that's true of most players going into the AFL. His disposal might not be elite, but his ability to find space and create something from nothing certainly is. AFL Comparison: Murray Newman.
39. North Melbourne - Michael Close (195cm forward - North Ballarat)
There is probably no other player in the draft that I change my mind on more than Michael Close. Depending on how I feel, I could have him in the second round down to the fourth round. And I don't really know what changes. I think he is every bit as good as Jackson Paine from last year (if not better) and he was consistently talked up as a first round prospect. But Close hasn't been getting the same treatment - no doubt due to the fact that he has been hampered by injuries this year. Close started the season well, playing around CHF and as the backup ruckman. And he had a very good match for Vic Country too against Queensland, but unfortunately he injured his ankle and didn't play again during the Championships. A full Championships would have done wonders for him, and he'd be talked about much more in my opinion. Close still has some filling out to do, but he is a really strong mark and has near elite endurance for someone of his height. He just needs to find some more consistency in his game, because he doesn't always impact the scoreboard in each game he plays. AFL Comparison: Sam Reid.
40. Fremantle - Sam Lowrie (187cm midfielder - South Fremantle)
Lowrie has just impressed me more and more each time I see him play, and most people by now will know that I love nothing more than big bodied midfielder. His form as a 17 year old in the Colts last year was very good, until he broke his leg that is. But he has come back as good as ever this season. Of all the players invited to the Combine and State Screenings, it was Lowrie only getting a state screening invite which surprised me the most. He played in all 5 of WA's games in the Championships and was one of their best players in my opinion. He was consistently getting 20+ touches, and got a lot of marks through the midfield in more of an outside role. And then in the final game against Metro, he dominated the clearances. Even his WAFL form has been top notch. I view him as similar to Andrew Embley - big strong guy who can play inside and outside, win his own ball and go forward too. Like Embley, I think he is deceptively quick. And while he might not necessarily test that way, some people just seem quicker when they have the ball in their hands. If the apparent lack of invites is anything to go by, someone is going to get a real bargain with Lowrie. AFL Comparison: Andrew Embley.
41. West Coast - Louis Herbert (186cm forward - North Ballarat)
Herbert only played the 1 game for Vic Country in the U18 Championships, and that was the Round 2 match against Queensland. But despite him only having the 8 touches, I was pretty impressed with what he showed. That's what first put him on my radar. And his TAC Cup form since has been particularly impressive too, where he has kicked a few big bags - including one haul of 8 goals. I was a little surprised that he wasn't getting much attention earlier in the year, but the clubs are obviously onto him what with his Combine invite. And it's no surprise really, every team is seemingly trying to find one of those fast but gangly medium forwards these days. While he might not be quite at the same level, I think he is comparable to another redhead at the Swans. He is strong above his heads, and has a really nice right foot on him. He should test well in terms of speed, agility and endurance at the Combine which will surely help his chances. AFL Comparison: Gary Rohan.
42. Collingwood - Brodie Murdoch (187cm forward - Glenelg)
Last year, I was a big fan of his older brother and it's the same story with the younger Murdoch. I really liked what I saw of Brodie last year, playing as more of a stay at home, leading full forward he kicked a few bags for Glenelg and was very impressive in the air. Because of his size, I was looking forward to seeing him play a bit further up the ground and he has done that so far this year - not only playing high half forward, but pushing right up into the midfield and even the back lines. I'm really interested to see just how far he can take his midfield game, as he has the traits that you'd be looking for - pace, agility, endurance and foot skills. The other thing that wouldn't surprise me is if he ended up as a defender in the Andrew Mackie mould. Teams may be more comfortable with someone his height down back, and he has shown glimpses of being able to do it. Whatever happens, he'll be an interesting player to watch develop. Obviously he hasn't been kicking quite as many goals this year, but like I said he has been playing further up the ground and anyway his marking is still as strong as ever. Put it all together, and he looks a good player. AFL Comparison: Andrew Mackie.
43. Richmond - Nathan Hrovat (174cm midfielder - Northern Knights)
If there is one player that I'm struggling with the most, it would be Hrovat. The ball magnet from Vic Metro, I initially had Hrovat as a mid round option and while I should probably have him higher after his performances this year, I just can’t do it. Hrovat does win a lot of ball, and can do it himself or link up on the outside. But sometimes it seems as though his touches aren't as damaging as others – which I think will be key when it comes to his draft position. But having said that in the Championships, he was Metro's key clearance player and he delivered inside 50 well too. And he has since continued on with that solid form. So really, I can't criticise his performances this year at all. Some people have him as a first round pick, and purely on what he has produced this year that seems warranted. It's just the hurt factor that I would mark him down on, but I'm always rating flashy players ahead of the hard workers. And while he is on the short side that shouldn't count against him considering the recent trend of shorter players getting an opportunity, he also has a relatively strong body. AFL Comparison: Tom Liberatore.
44. Western Bulldogs - Brant Colledge (192cm forward - Perth)
Brant is one of the more interesting KPPs in the draft in my opinion. At the start of the season, I had him rated quite highly due to the glimpses he showed late last year in the WAFL. But due to injuries Colledge has gone under the radar so far at times this season, in fact he has only played 15 games of WAFL Colts over the last two years. Yet I think he is my third favourite KPF in the draft. In the final match of the U18 Championships for WA, I thought he was the most impressive of the WA talls - playing at CHF, he ran really hard, made multiple leads and marked well. Colledge is a strong mark above his head, and while he might not ever be a 50+ a season goalkicker, he is good at bringing other players into the game. While he can play in the backline, I like him as a CHF leading up the ground. He plays a very high marking and disposal game in the WAFL Colts, and I think he could translate that across to the AFL. AFL Comparison: Jack Gunston.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/young-talent-time-a-2012-mock-draft.956131/
34. Richmond - Tim Membrey (188cm forward - Gippsland)
With his recent performances for Gippsland, Tim Membrey has really put his name in lights. He has really been dominating games up forward, and he has been doing it all year. But that doesn't mean he will necessarily get drafted early. For some reason he just seems to keep missing out - he was only a late addition to the AFL/AIS squad and he was left out of the Vic Country team for the first three weeks of the Championships. But I like him, and that's all that matters in this draft. He obviously isn't the biggest forward going around, and that may count against him. But I think he compares quite well with Jack Darling and Stewart Crameri - strong marking forward and a very good shot on goal, just a little on the short side. Because he isn't 195cm, what he needs to do to endear himself to AFL teams is be involved in the defensive pressure - and he does just that. He is a strong tackler and chases hard all day. He has also been pushing up into the midfield this year, to add another string to his bow. But while he is an accurate shot on goal, his field kicking can be a little sloppy at times. And to be honest, I don't know if the whole 'big bodied midfielder' thing will ever happen. I'd much rather take an actual midfielder in the top 25, rather than someone who hasn't played there yet but could maybe become one if all things go right. AFL Comparison: Jack Darling.
35. Essendon - Jason Pongracic (182cm midfielder - Dandenong)
Pongracic is a difficult player to place this year, and in the end I've probably gone lower than what most others would have him. He just hasn't had the greatest season in my eyes. He has had some injuries this year which saw him miss the first few weeks of the Championships and a bit of TAC Cup football this year, but he returned well and began impacting games from the get go - more so as a forward. One issue I have is that I just don't see him being a forward at the next level, he seems to rely heavily on his strength in marking contests in the TAC Cup. But as an inside midfielder, he would have to be one of the stronger ones in the draft. He is just so hard to move in a contest and I do think there is more to his game than just being stronger than everyone else. His attack on the ball will instantly endear him to all 18 coaches, it seems that he prides himself on being at the bottom of every pack. He reminds me a bit of Brent Moloney - although not as damaging a kick. I think he could go anywhere from top 25 to the third round, he is just one of those players - and I think you'd have to focus more on what he could become as a midfielder. AFL Comparison: Brent Moloney.
36. Carlton - Spencer White (194cm forward - Western Jets)
At the start of the year, I had White as one of my top KPFs to watch. That was based largely on potential rather than performances at the time, but as the year has gone on he has started to perform more consistently and I feel as though my initial rating was justified. Unfortunately for White, he had a quiet start to the season which saw him miss selection for Vic Metro in the U18 Championships. That was no doubt a big blow, but he has come back extremely well from that and kicked 30 goals in his last 10 TAC Cup games - that fact saw him upgraded from the State Screening to Draft Combine. And at the Combine, he definitely stood up and showed what he can do. He admittedly still has a long way to go, particularly needs to focus on what he does when he isn't kicking for goal because often he can go missing. But he is a big strong target up forward, is very good in the air and is an accurate shot on goal. What he offers that few others do though, is the athleticism to go with the size. He is a good runner and has an excellent leap. Give him the time, and I think he could be one of the better KPFs from this draft. AFL Comparison: Taylor Walker.
37. St Kilda - Dean Towers (189cm midfielder - North Ballarat)
I'm typically not big on the mature aged players, not many ever make my phantom drafts - I just watch more junior football than the state leagues. But I've been watching a bit more of the VFL this season, and even managed to see a North Ballarat game live and I like what I've seen from Towers. I've seen him compared to Isaac Smith, and I think it's an apt comparison. He has the height, speed and kicking skills of Smith and has a similar story too - coming from what seemed to be nowhere to be a genuine draft chance. His performance at the Combine should act to only improve his draft standing, particularly given the 15 year record he broke. I'd be fairly confident in saying he will go early in the draft, 20-30 early. AFL Comparison: Isaac Smith.
38. North Melbourne - Marvin Warrell (182cm midfielder - South Fremantle)
Warrell is a really interesting prospect. He developed himself a little bandwagon after the Championships, but that seemed to disappear after not too long. But it's back in full force now, on the back of an excellent last month in the WAFL. He has had two BOG performances in Grand Finals in two years for South Fremantle, so he is a real big game player. He has played everywhere from small forward, to midfield and rebounding defender, and has done so with success. In terms of what role he'll play at AFL level, I'm not too sure. I don't think he is as natural a small forward as some other players, so if I were his coach I'd probably be intrigued enough to try to him down back. He is an extremely creative player and also a strong tackler, I could just imagine him weaving his through the opposition as he runs out of the back lines. Would just need to improve his actual defensive game, but that's true of most players going into the AFL. His disposal might not be elite, but his ability to find space and create something from nothing certainly is. AFL Comparison: Murray Newman.
39. North Melbourne - Michael Close (195cm forward - North Ballarat)
There is probably no other player in the draft that I change my mind on more than Michael Close. Depending on how I feel, I could have him in the second round down to the fourth round. And I don't really know what changes. I think he is every bit as good as Jackson Paine from last year (if not better) and he was consistently talked up as a first round prospect. But Close hasn't been getting the same treatment - no doubt due to the fact that he has been hampered by injuries this year. Close started the season well, playing around CHF and as the backup ruckman. And he had a very good match for Vic Country too against Queensland, but unfortunately he injured his ankle and didn't play again during the Championships. A full Championships would have done wonders for him, and he'd be talked about much more in my opinion. Close still has some filling out to do, but he is a really strong mark and has near elite endurance for someone of his height. He just needs to find some more consistency in his game, because he doesn't always impact the scoreboard in each game he plays. AFL Comparison: Sam Reid.
40. Fremantle - Sam Lowrie (187cm midfielder - South Fremantle)
Lowrie has just impressed me more and more each time I see him play, and most people by now will know that I love nothing more than big bodied midfielder. His form as a 17 year old in the Colts last year was very good, until he broke his leg that is. But he has come back as good as ever this season. Of all the players invited to the Combine and State Screenings, it was Lowrie only getting a state screening invite which surprised me the most. He played in all 5 of WA's games in the Championships and was one of their best players in my opinion. He was consistently getting 20+ touches, and got a lot of marks through the midfield in more of an outside role. And then in the final game against Metro, he dominated the clearances. Even his WAFL form has been top notch. I view him as similar to Andrew Embley - big strong guy who can play inside and outside, win his own ball and go forward too. Like Embley, I think he is deceptively quick. And while he might not necessarily test that way, some people just seem quicker when they have the ball in their hands. If the apparent lack of invites is anything to go by, someone is going to get a real bargain with Lowrie. AFL Comparison: Andrew Embley.
41. West Coast - Louis Herbert (186cm forward - North Ballarat)
Herbert only played the 1 game for Vic Country in the U18 Championships, and that was the Round 2 match against Queensland. But despite him only having the 8 touches, I was pretty impressed with what he showed. That's what first put him on my radar. And his TAC Cup form since has been particularly impressive too, where he has kicked a few big bags - including one haul of 8 goals. I was a little surprised that he wasn't getting much attention earlier in the year, but the clubs are obviously onto him what with his Combine invite. And it's no surprise really, every team is seemingly trying to find one of those fast but gangly medium forwards these days. While he might not be quite at the same level, I think he is comparable to another redhead at the Swans. He is strong above his heads, and has a really nice right foot on him. He should test well in terms of speed, agility and endurance at the Combine which will surely help his chances. AFL Comparison: Gary Rohan.
42. Collingwood - Brodie Murdoch (187cm forward - Glenelg)
Last year, I was a big fan of his older brother and it's the same story with the younger Murdoch. I really liked what I saw of Brodie last year, playing as more of a stay at home, leading full forward he kicked a few bags for Glenelg and was very impressive in the air. Because of his size, I was looking forward to seeing him play a bit further up the ground and he has done that so far this year - not only playing high half forward, but pushing right up into the midfield and even the back lines. I'm really interested to see just how far he can take his midfield game, as he has the traits that you'd be looking for - pace, agility, endurance and foot skills. The other thing that wouldn't surprise me is if he ended up as a defender in the Andrew Mackie mould. Teams may be more comfortable with someone his height down back, and he has shown glimpses of being able to do it. Whatever happens, he'll be an interesting player to watch develop. Obviously he hasn't been kicking quite as many goals this year, but like I said he has been playing further up the ground and anyway his marking is still as strong as ever. Put it all together, and he looks a good player. AFL Comparison: Andrew Mackie.
43. Richmond - Nathan Hrovat (174cm midfielder - Northern Knights)
If there is one player that I'm struggling with the most, it would be Hrovat. The ball magnet from Vic Metro, I initially had Hrovat as a mid round option and while I should probably have him higher after his performances this year, I just can’t do it. Hrovat does win a lot of ball, and can do it himself or link up on the outside. But sometimes it seems as though his touches aren't as damaging as others – which I think will be key when it comes to his draft position. But having said that in the Championships, he was Metro's key clearance player and he delivered inside 50 well too. And he has since continued on with that solid form. So really, I can't criticise his performances this year at all. Some people have him as a first round pick, and purely on what he has produced this year that seems warranted. It's just the hurt factor that I would mark him down on, but I'm always rating flashy players ahead of the hard workers. And while he is on the short side that shouldn't count against him considering the recent trend of shorter players getting an opportunity, he also has a relatively strong body. AFL Comparison: Tom Liberatore.
44. Western Bulldogs - Brant Colledge (192cm forward - Perth)
Brant is one of the more interesting KPPs in the draft in my opinion. At the start of the season, I had him rated quite highly due to the glimpses he showed late last year in the WAFL. But due to injuries Colledge has gone under the radar so far at times this season, in fact he has only played 15 games of WAFL Colts over the last two years. Yet I think he is my third favourite KPF in the draft. In the final match of the U18 Championships for WA, I thought he was the most impressive of the WA talls - playing at CHF, he ran really hard, made multiple leads and marked well. Colledge is a strong mark above his head, and while he might not ever be a 50+ a season goalkicker, he is good at bringing other players into the game. While he can play in the backline, I like him as a CHF leading up the ground. He plays a very high marking and disposal game in the WAFL Colts, and I think he could translate that across to the AFL. AFL Comparison: Jack Gunston.
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That is good reading indeed. 
Everyone with a little knowledge in Aussie Rules, who has looked at our list know we are short of Talls. Thats why we have put offers
to Clark, Cloke. If we dont go for a key position player first round, it really is a lottery with pick 37, 40. Looking at our squad, I can not see any other obvious holes. We seem to have great depth all over the ground, except Talls.
to Clark, Cloke. If we dont go for a key position player first round, it really is a lottery with pick 37, 40. Looking at our squad, I can not see any other obvious holes. We seem to have great depth all over the ground, except Talls.
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Speculative as it may be we need to grab talls, at least one preferably two for me out of the three. One can lean more towards KPF, the other KPD. Remaining draft best available.
Spencer White sounds reasonable have not read about him before. Vic Metro boys always concern me though for the go home factor we have the worst record with those guys (including the last White on our list).
Spencer White sounds reasonable have not read about him before. Vic Metro boys always concern me though for the go home factor we have the worst record with those guys (including the last White on our list).
Correct weight,good reading indeed.That is good reading indeed.
I am always variously interested,elated,disgusted,rapt and dismayed by the behaviour of the FFC.
Both Peter Mann and Chris Bond had prolonged periods of awful form as skippers but their team-punch-and-grunt did not waver.I hope they're still not out of form competitors and the best try-hards we can attract.
The list management model may in fact be a bit conservative and still good big business is also involved!
I read a yarn today where Alex Ferguson was asked about fan discontent with the club's failure to sign a big name forward and Ferguson said simply "The fans can wait.."
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I was curious to see the kind of value we could get with our picks this year, especially given that Bond seemed content with pick 37 when the rest of the world holds it in great disdain as a trade for Broughton. Listed in order 17, 37, 40.
2004
Andrew McQualter 17
Mark Lecras 37
Travis Cloke 40 (father son I think?)
2005
Darren Pfeiffer
John Anthony
Travis Casserly (Wasn't a bad player but never got past his injuries and was banned for taking a cold and flu tablet before the WAFL gf when Richmond were looking at picking him back up if I remember correctly)
2006
Shaun Hampson
Todd Goldstein
Josh Kennedy (of the Sydney kind)
2007
Harry Taylor
Scott Thompson
Chris Mayne
2008
Sam Blease
Zach Clarke
Mitch Robinson
2009
Daniel Menzel
Jamie MacMillen
Allen Christensen
2010
Shaun Atley
George Horlin Smith
Luke Parker
2011
Clay Smith
Jack Newnes
Tom Curren
Not terrible value, all in all
2004
Andrew McQualter 17
Mark Lecras 37
Travis Cloke 40 (father son I think?)
2005
Darren Pfeiffer
John Anthony
Travis Casserly (Wasn't a bad player but never got past his injuries and was banned for taking a cold and flu tablet before the WAFL gf when Richmond were looking at picking him back up if I remember correctly)
2006
Shaun Hampson
Todd Goldstein
Josh Kennedy (of the Sydney kind)
2007
Harry Taylor
Scott Thompson
Chris Mayne
2008
Sam Blease
Zach Clarke
Mitch Robinson
2009
Daniel Menzel
Jamie MacMillen
Allen Christensen
2010
Shaun Atley
George Horlin Smith
Luke Parker
2011
Clay Smith
Jack Newnes
Tom Curren
Not terrible value, all in all
That is good reading indeed.
It looks from that section of your Phantom that you are fairly confident that we will have some reasonable talls available Chris. The Broughton trade just looks like a simple equation of trading from an area of our list we have surplus in (half backs), and using a player who is not actually first choice in that position, to have a crack at getting a KPP (may or may not happen depending how the players fall to us). It seems like a statement about where our recruiters see value being available.
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Too right! Would take the 2007 result.
If we could Stringer or Shaw first up, then an Obrien and/or Spencer White followed by a decent mid we'll have done well.
Could look at mids and another tall as rookies
Could look at mids and another tall as rookies
Yes that is spot on. Plus the addition of Moller of course as a ruckman/forward. It still leaves us light for depth and we would want to get a great success rate from those selections.
Yeah. I'd personally chop Jesse Chrichton, Jack Anthony and look for another rookie or 2.
Jai Sheehan? Had 2 years at Melbourne. He'd be worth a rookie spot. Gillies from Geelong?
Jai Sheehan? Had 2 years at Melbourne. He'd be worth a rookie spot. Gillies from Geelong?
Chris - any other KPP's that you think may be taken 37/40?That is good reading indeed.
If we go for him at pick 17
Nathan Hrovat, Northern Knights, 175cm, 79kg, 7/6/94
Draft range: 15-25
There's a bit of Toby Greene about Hrovat in that he isn't the most heralded - or big - onballer in the draft, but he might just be the most effective. The clearance specialist racked up 126 possessions across five games at the national championships at an efficiency rate of 75 per cent to be named Vic Metro's MVP and All Australian. He played eight games for the Knights and was named their best player on five occasions and their second-best twice.
Other than the obvious concern of us overlooking a KPP again, the one thing that concerns me about him is he is a Vic metro player.
Nathan Hrovat, Northern Knights, 175cm, 79kg, 7/6/94
Draft range: 15-25
There's a bit of Toby Greene about Hrovat in that he isn't the most heralded - or big - onballer in the draft, but he might just be the most effective. The clearance specialist racked up 126 possessions across five games at the national championships at an efficiency rate of 75 per cent to be named Vic Metro's MVP and All Australian. He played eight games for the Knights and was named their best player on five occasions and their second-best twice.
Other than the obvious concern of us overlooking a KPP again, the one thing that concerns me about him is he is a Vic metro player.
Just seen the profile pic of Tim Membrey on the AFL site. I've decided that I am no longer interested in acquiring his services. I question his decision-making based purely on his tatts.
Can only go from what I've seen of his highlight video and a few PDs Ysaye, but it'd have to be a no from me. He looks a touch short for a KPP, I know that's not the be all and end all, but he doesn't seem particularly athletic either, so he wouldn't add much to our forward set up. That said, we'll probably grab him at 17 now...
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My ideal draft would see us taking Mason Shaw at #17, and then another KPF with one of our second round picks. I would rather Spencer White, Tim O'Brien or Brant Colledge. But if they were gone, then I'd be happy enough with Marco Paparone. I'm not his biggest fan, but I feel as though he would be a relatively safe pick in the second round compared to some other KPFs.
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Shaw, Obrien, White all would be welcome picks, I would add Clurey, and Membrey to the list, even though he is not a true Tall, if he fell to us, something to like about Mellington and Membrey playing together, Membrey could be the next Chapman.
Probably already been posted .Not sure what Chris25 thinks of him
Details
Number 21
Height 196cm
Weight 81kg
DOB 03-03-1992
Debut Yet to debut
GamesGoals
2012 0 2012 0
Career 0 Career 0
Dreamteam Points
2012 0
The young key forward, a first-round draft choice in 2010, showed plenty at VFL level in 2011 before battling injury. His ball use and work ethic are at an elite level and he played mainly as a hit-up forward pushing high up the ground to mark well. Unfortunately a hip injury required surgery at season’s end and he will be given time to recover through the pre-season.
Draft history: 2010 NAB AFL Draft 1st round selection (Melbourne) No. 12 overall.
21 Lucas Cook
Details
Number 21
Height 196cm
Weight 81kg
DOB 03-03-1992
Debut Yet to debut
GamesGoals
2012 0 2012 0
Career 0 Career 0
Dreamteam Points
2012 0
The young key forward, a first-round draft choice in 2010, showed plenty at VFL level in 2011 before battling injury. His ball use and work ethic are at an elite level and he played mainly as a hit-up forward pushing high up the ground to mark well. Unfortunately a hip injury required surgery at season’s end and he will be given time to recover through the pre-season.
Draft history: 2010 NAB AFL Draft 1st round selection (Melbourne) No. 12 overall.
- Banned
- #322
Brant Colledge is a fair chance of landing at the port.
Shadow Man
Premiership Player
We could do worse than Shane Nelson with one of our later picks, think he will provide very good value for someone.
Bulldocker
Club Legend
I reckon we have a real chance of Shaw falling through to our first pick. The dream would be for us to get him or Jaksch IMO. If they get one of those then I reckon they'll just go best available for our 37/40 picks. That may or may not mean another KPP.
I think that Shaw will easily flow through to us, there's talk that he'll fall to 20-something but I can't see Collingwood letting him slip with one of their 3 picks, seeing as they just lost Dawes and they'll only get 1-2 years out of Lynch.
