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How would Grundy compare to Kreuzer?
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Pretty similar. Grundy is probably a better forward, tap ruckman and plays with more aggression.
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Watched the SA v Vic metro game last night , Grundy crumbed and kicked to opportunist goals. One pick up was just amazing in traffic for a guy of 202cm. He just has that ability to will himself through the contest. I still think we are dreaming if we think we are going to get him. Cant even see Brisbane passing up on him and they have Learnburger and Longer. They be looking at him to replace John Brown. GWS will take him.
Not quite as good as a junior and doesn't show the same potential in any facet other than aggression .
The fact he isn't more dominate given the level of aggression he ha shown against smaller less developed players has me a little concerned he may struggle when consistantly playing against players of equal size and strength .
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You're really not a Grundy fan, are you RP?! Definitely out of sync with the general consensus... Not that this makes you wrong (most thought Tambling the second best prospect in his draft year, and were proven off the mark!), but interesting none the less.
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One I like the more footage I see of him is Andrew Boston. 
One I like the more footage I see of him is Andrew Boston.
I'm not sure if these posters wish to be named, but I will quote them anyway:
"Beep test was around 12 from memory and the 3km time trial was also pretty ordinary, almost a minute worse than Clay Cameron's, who I believe is a "tall"."
Would we be happy to draft someone with that level of endurance?
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Don't think the fact someone is tall matters with endurance. Clurey won the beep test who is a CHB/CHF prospect with a level 15.
Rory Atkins got a 12 as well. It's not an awful score and at least something to work with. A lot of guys of guys at Combine scored one level less than their usual score due to the heat. I think if they are going to be missing something which all players in the second round will be it's their endurance. Easier to fix than skill-level, decision making, speed etc.
Fair enough. For there's also another poster who also isn't keen on Boston, and Hrovat as well! Too fat apparently. I wonder how quickly one can work on one's endurance, how quickly could Boston improve his endurance base?
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Couple of pre-seasons I'd imagine provided they don't suffer any injuries. As I said everyone was about a level below their standard at combine so he's probably more a level 13. Probably won't get many games in year one but year two ideally he'd have his tank at the level where he can play regular games. Likewise Atkins. IMO as I said last post endurance is the easiest thing to improve so if that's their deficiency well you can work with that. You just don't want a slow player and expect to be able to improve that. They may make some gains but probably nothing massive. Bad kicking is another which I think is too hard to make drastic improvements. By time they are 17/18 they've been doing it so long it's ingrained in them.
FWIW Hrovat had the worst skin folds in the combine but he can play so who really cares. Hopefully it makes him slide.
Just shows how freaky Clurey's endurance base is, given he's a KPP. Seems a waste to give all that endurance to a KPP, I mean they run, but they don't need to have that level of endurance that a midfielder would love to have.
Fair enough, apparently Boston prepared for a 400 meter tack and the track was 474 meters. I thought that wouldn't matter so much but apparently it did.
FWIW Hrovat had the worst skin folds in the combine but he can play so who really cares. Hopefully it makes him slide.
Skin folds of 69 apparently, shows unprofessionalism, crazy stuff. I would love him, the kind of guy Richmond needs, Hrovat feeds it out to Deledio, kicks it to Riewoldt. Yes please.
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Riewoldt, Franklin etc. He'll have to keep up with guys like that. FB/FF probably don't need that endurance but CHF/CHB do. But yes, he is a freak but I reckon there would be others.
Lol can't imagine that makes any difference. What a nuffer.
Hrovat is super professional and has been working really hard on that. Surprised it's so high. Still think he'll go 15-25 on the day.
Appreciate Damo that my thoughts on Grundy aren't as you say in sync with the majority upon here , nor are my thoughts on Stringer who I think is similar to Grundy . IMO they are closer to their potential and although they may be closer to being AFL ready physically , they don't have the scope of Improvement other less physically developed players they are being bandied around infront of .
For example I can't Stringer in front of Clurey .
tigs2010
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I think you'll find your thoughts on Stringer are very much in sync with myself and the other draft watchers on here. I'd take Clurey every day of the week over Stringer.
yes understand but he just stated what he heard from emma on sen on sunday. since it was MY txt message she was answering i thought i should clarify it. incidently i didnt get the impression it was what he predicted just what she said. i could be wrong. c4?
Fairly sure Boston tiger would be keenOne I like the more footage I see of him is Andrew Boston.
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Yer, sorry I meant of the Richmond ones. Chris rates him highly.
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Don't forget Cameron Ling arrived at Geelong as a fat full forward who could only lead, mark and kick. I wouldn't judge a kid on his skinfolds just yet. It's what's inside his head at this stage that counts.
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I was with Lingy the night he found out he got drafted, we were at the Geelong Hotel and his face was sliding off his head he was so wasted.
Anyway, just on Lingy. Would he be the only ever FF / FB to have become a full time mid and elite in his role?
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Not only was he elite, he was actually an elite athlete who had elite endurance. You just can't judge footballers by their size.
I remember playing one day at FF and along came my opponent, all 5 foot 6 of him and about 120kg. I wondered who my next opponent would be after thinking I would kick six on him in the first quarter. Anyway, halfway through the 2nd quarter after I had been dragged, this bloke was fast, skilful and strong and gave me the mother of all hidings. I learnt that day, never on the sporting field to judge a bloke by his build.
Mundy was a junior FB and as we all know he's an elite clearance mid, better than Lids.
Makes Lids look like JON, he is that good
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