Some think that Port will get an end of 1st round pick as compo for Chaplin and there are many other potential moves of that ilk to be made during the FA period. I would not be surprised if we ended up 5-6 places further down the order.
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Some think that Port will get an end of 1st round pick as compo for Chaplin and there are many other potential moves of that ilk to be made during the FA period. I would not be surprised if we ended up 5-6 places further down the order.
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Yeah exactly. Pie in the sky stuff (perhaps) but man our midfield would look even sexier. And in 2 -3 years would be formidable.
It's already formidable, in 2-3 years it would be bloody unbeatable with those two in it.
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Unfortunately this is exactly not what GC need.
They have to reduce their list by 4 as the mandated annual list reductions for them start kicking in. They also have to have the mandatory 3 ND picks. This means without blinking, they need to free up 7 spots.
If they trade out one pick for 2, they are risking adding to a pile of picks they just wont use. What GC need is to trade out their later picks and borderline players to potentially improve the three ND picks they will use.
This is why the Caddy discussion is doing peoples head in. Pears or Hooker and a second round pick is useless because it gives them a meh player they don't want, and a second round pick they don't need.
What GC want/need is to either upgrade picks, or trade out multiple players for single picks (to reduce the size of their required cull).
Spot on. Someone earlier in the thread was keen for a pick down grade, GC would be the best option( I'm against it by the way). If they pick up a mid first round pick we could trade pick 9 for say pick 13+ and their second round pick. That way they get a better player with their limited spots and we get another second rounder and still probably get a Vlastuin type.
Now that I would do, although their second round pick (25) would be their third selection absent securing a lower pick from elsewhere so I'm not sure GC would agree.
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What if Vlas doesn't get to 13. Or Garlett? Or whoever. Massive risk for just another second rounder.
Draft for stars. Can't do that if we miss out on who we want early.
Draft for stars. Can't do that if we miss out on who we want early.
Depends on how many guys we are interested in. If we're happy with any of Stringer, McCrae, Kennedy, Vlastuin, Garlett, Wines etc then one of them will still be there. If we are dead set on Vlastuin or Stringer then you wouldn't chance that you two preferred are gone.
We also have past form, downgrading the pick we used on Reiwoldt to pick 14 from I think it was 8
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Was Pick 8 to Pick 13 which we selected Riewoldt with along with some later picks switched around. I can see the merit in downgrading to select someone we like whilst getting something else but we would want to be pretty sure the player we are after will still be avaliable or else you end up with egg on your face.
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With the chance of our 29 and 31 picks sliding to who knows where after the free agency compo picks are announced, I've compiled a list of our picks after approx 20.
2005 24 C Hughes 40 T Casserly
2006 26 S Edwards
2007 51 D Putt
2008 26 J Post 58 T Hislop
2009 35 D Astbury 44 M Dea
2010 30 J Batchelor 47 B Helbig
2011 26 T Elton
It's common knowledge the draft quality usually dips after 20 - 25, and there is really only 2-3 regulars out of this list, so I am warming to the thought we try to package these picks for something earlier?
I just think 2 earlier picks (9 and say 15-20) might be a smarter choice than 9 and mid 30's.
(I also realise we gave 37 for Maric). Just throwing it out there.
2005 24 C Hughes 40 T Casserly
2006 26 S Edwards
2007 51 D Putt
2008 26 J Post 58 T Hislop
2009 35 D Astbury 44 M Dea
2010 30 J Batchelor 47 B Helbig
2011 26 T Elton
It's common knowledge the draft quality usually dips after 20 - 25, and there is really only 2-3 regulars out of this list, so I am warming to the thought we try to package these picks for something earlier?
I just think 2 earlier picks (9 and say 15-20) might be a smarter choice than 9 and mid 30's.
(I also realise we gave 37 for Maric). Just throwing it out there.
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Tom Lee anyone at #50?
23 year old 194 cm, 94kg Key Tall or Back, meant to be the best tall going around in the state leagues
Knightmare has him going at #56, reckon he could be a decent shot for that 3rd forward spot up forward from word go.
23 year old 194 cm, 94kg Key Tall or Back, meant to be the best tall going around in the state leagues
Knightmare has him going at #56, reckon he could be a decent shot for that 3rd forward spot up forward from word go.
No problems with that.
#9 Vlastuin/Wines - Inside Mid that we need
#29 Dean Towers - Fast runner type that we don't have + also is mature age so will help us immediately.
#31 Liam McBean - Ruckman that we are now in need of, is versatile and can play down back too.
#50 Tom Lee - Key Back/Forward - Could hold down CHF for us, at worst will be replacement for McGuane and Derickx.
#68 Alex Boston - (Hopefully will last this long, but wouldn't count on it.) Good inside mid and can also play forward has good skills.
Only problem is that we may trade #50 for Thomas.
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Would take that in a heartbeat, then rookie a few mature mids, would prefer lee or membrey over thomas anyday though.
it's a completely new system that is significantly less generous than the out of contract compo, so say if Cloke left left Collingwood let says he is a top 10 or so pick then they would most like get an end of first round compo or being Cloke a pick after their first one because of his youth and skill, if Port get an end of first compo for Chaplin i will be hugely suprised.
not sure lee will still be there in the 50's.
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Would rather Jacob Ballard at #50 but would not begrudge at all if we got Lee
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Re Mc Bean, I'd rather see the club not use a pick on a young ruckmen (i understand Bean can play KP). I rather we continue to follow the Sydney model (eg Jolly, Seaby, Mumford etc) of trading for mature age rucks who have physically developed, as we did with Maric (it works).
Offer a up and coming ruckmen who sits behind an established ruck such Sandilands, Cox/Nat eg a Zac Clarke type etc. Rather than spend 4 years investing time and money trying to develop one and hope that it turns out ok.
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#9 Oliver Wines
#29 Dean Towers
#31 Nathan Hrovat
#50 Tom Lee
#68 Kyle Martin
#29 Dean Towers
#31 Nathan Hrovat
#50 Tom Lee
#68 Kyle Martin
Wines will be taken by the bulldogs if still available at their pick.They are very keen to get him.
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Why would Bulldogs want him? They need players who can run. Not that i care about them or missing out on wines.
This is what I have been heard. Don't know why but has apparently interviewed very well and they are keen to get him.
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perfect draft would be:
#9 Oliver Wines
#29 Dean Towers
#31 Liam McBean (see him as a poor man Griff sort of like a Keeffe from Magpies)
#50 Jacob Ballard
Don't reckon we'd use any more picks with the projected trades and free agents
#9 Oliver Wines
#29 Dean Towers
#31 Liam McBean (see him as a poor man Griff sort of like a Keeffe from Magpies)
#50 Jacob Ballard
Don't reckon we'd use any more picks with the projected trades and free agents
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