2012 draft

[SumTingWong]

Two I'd very much look at. Chris was a Spencer fan before most, and I only got a look at him late in the season - but he was very good. Think he's got quite a bit to play with.

Harley Walshe's size makes him a really intriguing prospect. Probably the type the Tigers could do with an extra one of.

Sean Gregory, Alex Howson and Nick Rodda are 3 others I'd like to think we'd look at late if they're there.

Apparently he had the better of Daniher and Membrey this year.....not too shabby Not much of a rebounder out of defence but very good at stopping oponent. We will need a FB in 3-4 years when Chaplin is finished so would look to get someone either this year or next to fill that void

 

[Calcium Man]

I would say the biggest difference between the two at junior level is Grundy is much more aggressive and competitive than Matt was/is.

Wow really? I remember one of Kruezers strengths was his competitiveness.

 

[Spanish_Fly]

Dave Mathews I think his name is, the CEO from GWS said today on SEN that they had been discussing Tippett and as long as the price was right they would be keen.

It would be a bizarre turn of events if the team that finished dead last could not fit into their cap a player that the reigning premiers could.

If Tippett nominates for the ND this could really stir things up and maybe Grundy might be a reality.

 

[Chris25]

Harley Walshe's size makes him a really intriguing prospect. Probably the type the Tigers could do with an extra one of.

Sean Gregory, Alex Howson and Nick Rodda are 3 others I'd like to think we'd look at late if they're there.

Walshe is the one for me with his height. I also think he will fill out far better than Gregory.

I'd take Gregory ahead of Walshe. They are both essentially the same height at around 196/197cm, and while Walshe may have about 5-8kg on Gregory at the moment, I just don't see him as having the same upside. Gregory is very athletic for his size, and has more versatility. Both will be rookies, and long term rookies at that. But I think Gregory has more tools to make it at AFL level.

 

[Bojangles17]

So how many picks have we got

 

[UpTheGuts]

4. If Newman goes to vets list (I was sure he was on there last year but others seem sure he wasn't) then we can have 5 or 4 plus PSD

 

[Harmichael]

...or 6 if the club makes the right call on Edwards.

 

[THE_GUN]

...or 6 if the club makes the right call on Edwards.

........or 7 if the club had the balls to F*** off McGoof

 

[Wacky Tiger]

I know he's not that highly rated and obviously has some issues but just watched Spencer White highlights. Wowee does he look like Buddy playing. Dare to dream picking him up and him following a similar path. I can dream can't I???

 

[tigs2010]

I know he's not that highly rated and obviously has some issues but just watched Spencer White highlights. Wowee does he look like Buddy playing. Dare to dream picking him up and him following a similar path. I can dream can't I???

You'll find theirs a reason he goes at 40+ comapred to Buddy at 5 even though Buddy had the issues heading into his draft.

 

[THE_GUN]

If we took spencer, we sure as hell will be trying to turn him into a defender - Thats just what we do

 

[tigs2010]

If we took spencer, we sure as hell will be trying to turn him into a defender - Thats just what we do

Yer Riewoldt looks like a gun CHB. a huge number of current AFL KPD were junior forwards. It's because the talented kids play forward.

 

[THE_GUN]

Yer Riewoldt looks like a gun CHB. a huge number of current AFL KPD were junior forwards. It's because the talented kids play forward.

You see effectively you are agreeing with me !

Jack & Tyrone are the only 2 that we left in their junior positions - It works when you play them in their best possitions.

 

[Calcium Man]

You see effectively you are agreeing with me !

Jack & Tyrone are the only 2 that we left in their junior positions - It works when you play them in their best possitions.

What do the following players have in common?

Lake
Leppitsch
Ried
Chad Cornes
Bock
McPharlin
Croad

They were all recruited as forwards and dominated as defenders

 

[theflea]

What do the following players have in common?

Lake
Leppitsch
Ried
Chad Cornes
Bock
McPharlin
Croad

They were all recruited as forwards and dominated as defenders

they are actually pretty rare.

 

[bananatigz]

#9 Vlastuin/Garner/O'Rourke/Macrae, we will get a good player here regardless, preference is Macrae
#32 Josh Simpson- Fantastic too watch, just reminds me of Jetta out on a wing, deadly, could see him going way earlier then this however im afraid
#34 Hrovat- Foley's successor, favourite player in the draft
#43 White- Saw him play a school game before i knew who he was or anything about him and he was just rampant, can slot them from outside 50 as well, looked very raw, just freakish ability.

 

[tigs2010]

Thought I'd do a little analysis on a few of the players available at our respective picks. Will do picks 32/34 as the one analysis tomorrow and 43 the day after.

Starting with our first rounder (choices in order of preference):

Pick 9 (going off who Brett Anderson has in line for us as he'd have a better idea than me who we want)

Jackson Macrae

Height: 188cm
Weight: 75kg
Where he fits at Richmond? Think he'd slot in nicely as a half-forward/winger at some stage in 2013. Eventually becoming a midfielder full-time.
What I like: Super classy left-footed midfielder/forward who will be able to provide a bit of x-factor to the side. Up there with the best kicks in the draft. (Rate Mayes as 1) Very elusive, almost impossible to tackle with his neat little side step. Although capable of racking up a heap of the ball, he can still cause damage on a less prolific day which is what I like about him. Very tough to shutdown. As an outside midfielder he has very good pace. (not up there with a Garlett/Simpson but still very good) Macrae has a real knack of finding the goals, evidenced by his 6 goal haul at the Championships. Has the class of a Pendlebury crossed with the x-factor of a Stevie J type so what's not to like?
Kicking/Character/Competitive (win own ball)? He's an elite kick, and a very driven and competitive kid from what I've seen so he'd tick all 3 boxes from the club's end.
Highlights:


Taylor Garner

Height: 186cm
Weight: 77kg
Where he fits at Richmond? As a high half-forward pinch hitting in the middle.
What I like: For a medium forward he has elite aerial ability. Can just pluck them from anywhere. Very much made in the Nat Fyfe mould with that ability to outmark anyone. Would add a real x-factor to our side both in the air and at ground level. What surprises me is his defensive game. Often you get these high level x-factor forwards at junior level and they have a limited defensive game. This kid loves to tackle and really has that intent to hurt and hit in hard. IMO Garner also has the ability to be a very good midfielder at the next level as he has a very good contested game already. Really think he has the potential to emulate Nat Fyfe at AFL level. If we take him question is do we want him as a forward or a mid and how much of each does he play. Wouldn't surprise by draft time if I have him as my first choice. Want to try get some more footage of him though.
Kicking/Character/Competitive (win own ball)? Is a good kick without being elite, very high character kid, driven and motivated and as mentioned for a medium forward he has a very good contested game both in the air and in the midfield.
Highlights:


Nick Vlastuin

Height: 187cm
Weight: 83kg
Where he fits at Richmond? Would start as a HBF and I'd say logically he'd be groomed as the Shane Tuck replacement. Probably need to wait at least 2 years before we can expect him to start shouldering even half that load though so hoping Tucky hangs in there a while.
What I like: Really strong bodied contested ball winner that you just know Hardwick would love. If we had the luxury of selecting all four of the guys I've listed at this pick, I'd say Vlastuin would be the one Hardwick would take into battle in round 1. I know some have knocked his athleticism but the more I see of him the more I think it is a non-issue. His kicking is very good even more so when you consider the role he'd play.
Kicking/Character/Competitive (win own ball)? Very good kick of the footy, very high-character kid who some have touted him as a future AFL captain at whichever club he ends up at (Could be a fair wait for him at Tigerland while we have Cotch. ) A real contested beast. So again he ticks all the boxes.
Highlights:


Sam Mayes

Height: 187cm
Weight: 78kg
Where he fits at Richmond? Like Macrae I could see him spending some time as a half-forward/winger next year before eventually becoming a classy midfielder. Would need to be patient which isn't something this supporter base is renowned for.
What I like: First of all he's already competing against men despite his slender frame. To me, that's already a tick. I rate Mayes as the best kick in this draft. His delivery inside 50 to Jack/Tyrone would be much appreciated by them. Very good at converting his opportunities in front of the big sticks as well. Last year dominated as a medium forward type and he creates fantastic separation on his opponent when on the lead. Still needs to develop a contested game and I'd be pairing him with Cotchin over the pre-season to develop this. Really strong overhead and worst case scenario is he becomes a very good medium forward capable of kicking a couple of goals a game.
Kicking/Character/Competitive (win own ball)? Best kick in the draft for mine, apparently a high character kid. As mentioned I don't think he falls behind Macrae in the contested stakes and doesn't win a huge amount of ball. Very damaging when he does get it though. For this reason I have Macrae ahead of Mayes and why Mayes is the last of the 4 I've listed.
Highlights:

 

[Dragonss]

Should use our 3rd rounder on Emmanuel Irra, saw a bit of play where he just had such good awareness and hit his teammate on the chest with a kick across the body, good with hands and feet giving us that x-factor. Although have concerns about his ball winning ability. If we can drill that drive into him I think we'll get ourself a gem. Not so keen on Tim Sumner anymore.

 

[_DBF_]

This is how I see the first two rounds panning out... through rumour and research.

1. Greater Western Sydney Lachlan Whitfield
2. Greater Western Sydney Jimmy Toumpas
3. Greater Western Sydney Brodie Grundy
4. Melbourne (GWS compensation - Tom Scully) Oliver Wines
5. Western Bulldogs Jake Stringer
6. Western Bulldogs (GWS compensation - Callan Ward) Lachlan Plowman
7. Port Adelaide Sam Mayes
8. Brisbane Lions Kristian Jacksh
9. Richmond Jonathan O'Rourke
10. Essendon (father-son selection committed to Joe Daniher) Joe Daniher
11. Carlton Jackson MacRae
12. Greater Western Sydney Nick Vlastuin
13. Gold Coast (Saints' FA compensation - Brendon Goddard, on-traded to Gold Coast) Troy Menzel
14. Greater Western Sydney Dayle Garlett
15. North Melbourne Ben Kennedy
16. Geelong Tom Clurey
17. Fremantle Taylor Garner
18. Collingwood Sam Colquhoun
19. Collingwood Nathan Hrovat
20. Adelaide Mason Shaw
21. Collingwood (GWS compensation - originally via Adelaide - Phil Davis) Jesse Lonergan
22. Western Bulldogs Nathan Wright
23. Sydney Swans Tim Membrey
24. Brisbane Lions (GC compensation - Michael Rischitelli) Andrew Boston
25. St Kilda James Stewart
26. St Kilda Tanner Smith
27. Melbourne (father-son selection committed to Jack Viney) Jack Viney
28. Hawthorn Nick Graham
29. Greater Western Sydney Adam Carter
30. Port Adelaide (FA compensation - Danyle Pearce) Tim Sumner
31. Port Adelaide (FA compensation - Troy Chaplin) Tim O'Brien
32. Richmond (GC compensation - originally via Port Adelaide - Nathan Krakouer) Matthew Haynes
33. Brisbane Lions Tim Broomhead
34. Richmond Rory Atkins
35. Essendon Dean Towers
36. Carlton Jason Pongracic
37.Fremantle Sam Lowrie
38. North Melbourne Brodie Murdoch
39. North Melbourne Matthew McDonagh
40. Fremantle Liam McBean
41. West Coast Marco Paparone
42. Collingwood Laine Wilkins
43. Richmond Adam Carter
44. West Coast Sean Lynch
45. Sydney Swans Marvin Warrell

 

[tigs2010]

Should use our 3rd rounder on Emmanuel Irra, saw a bit of play where he just had such good awareness and hit his teammate on the chest with a kick across the body, good with hands and feet giving us that x-factor. Although have concerns about his ball winning ability. If we can drill that drive into him I think we'll get ourself a gem. Not so keen on Tim Sumner anymore.

Boo-urns man. Was going to do a write-up for him at 43.

 

[Harmichael]

Don't forget we could be moving up a position from round 2 onwards.

Maybe even 2-3 positions if the AFL is fair dinkum about the Melbourne tanking investigation which according to Caro in The Age has just taken a more serious turn. (fingers & toes crossed)

 

[UpTheGuts]

FYI, Rucci says Crows set to lose first 3 draft picks this year and second rounder next year.

 

[UpTheGuts]

Thanks guys for draftee analysis. Greatly appreciated

 

[Richo83]

Thought I'd do a little analysis on a few of the players available at our respective picks. Will do picks 32/34 as the one analysis tomorrow and 43 the day after.

Starting with our first rounder (choices in order of preference):

Dean has Richmond taking O'Rourke, what do you think about that?

 

[THE_GUN]

What do the following players have in common?

Lake
Leppitsch
Ried
Chad Cornes
Bock
McPharlin
Croad

They were all recruited as forwards and dominated as defenders

I really dont want to reply to that but feel compelled to !
Carey
Franklin
Lloyd
Richardson
Lockett
Dunstall
Brereton

See where im coming from !!!