2012 draft

[_DBF_]

Nice work Tigerbob. Appreciate it. I would have thought if Melbourne are still selecting at 4 they would be keen. Jamar is 29 and injuries are starting to hit. They would be kicking themselves at missing out on Nic Nat + they got a top 5 midfield talent in Viney for 26.

Good thing they won't be

 

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For those that haven't got it yet here is the Inside Football first round by Brett Anderson:

1. Whitfield
2. Toumpas
3. O'Rourke
4. Wines
5. Macrae
6. Menzel
7. Grundy
8. Plowman
9. Vlastuin
10. Daniher
11. Jaksch
12. Clurey
13. Mayes
14. Stringer
15. Kennedy
16. Lonergan
17. Shaw
18. Simpson
19. Garner
20. Garlett
21. Colquhoun
22. Membrey
23. Smith
24. Haynes

 

[bananatigz]

1. GWS- Whitfield
2. GWS- Toumpas
3. GWS- O'Rourke
4. WBD- Plowman
5. WBD- Macrae
6. PORT-Viney/Stringer
7. BRIS- Mayes
8. RICH- GRUNDDDYYY

Within the realms of possibility?

 

[tigs2010]

1. GWS- Whitfield
2. GWS- Toumpas
3. GWS- O'Rourke
4. WBD- Plowman
5. WBD- Macrae
6. PORT-Viney/Stringer
7. BRIS- Mayes
8. RICH- GRUNDDDYYY

Within the realms of possibility?

IMO Brisbane most likely to go Jaksch instead of Mayes if Plowman not available.

 

[_DBF_]

1. GWS- Whitfield
2. GWS- Toumpas
3. GWS- O'Rourke
4. WBD- Plowman
5. WBD- Macrae
6. PORT-Viney/Stringer
7. BRIS- Mayes
8. RICH- GRUNDDDYYY

Within the realms of possibility?

1. Lachlan Whitfield - GWS
2. Jimmy Toumpas - GWS
3. Jonathan O'Rourke - GWS
4. Oliver Wines - MELB
5. Sam Mayes - WBD
6. Lachlan Plowman - WBD
7. Brodie Grundy - PTA
8. Kristian Jacksh - BRIS
9. Nick Vlastuin - RICH
10. Joe Daniher - ESS (F/S)
11. Jackson MacRae - CARL
12. Jake Stringer - GWS
13. Taylor Garner - GCS
14. Tom Clurey - GWS
15. Ben Kennedy - NTH
16. Troy Menzel - GEEL
17. Mason Shaw - FREM
18. Dayle Garlett - COLL
19. Nathan Hrovat - COLL
20. Tanner Smith - STK
21. Tim Membrey _ COLL
22. Josh Simpson - WBD
23. Nathan Wright - SYD
24. Alex Boston - BRIS

Wealth of talent at our pick.

The most interesting part will be when we find out what happens to Melbourne - but that's my first round.

 

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tigs2010 if the draft was to unfold as IF has it above do you think we'd stick with Vlastuin or go for Mayes/Stringer?

 

[Riskingheadandshin]

1. GWS- Whitfield
2. GWS- Toumpas
3. GWS- O'Rourke
4. WBD- Plowman
5. WBD- Macrae
6. PORT-Viney/Stringer
7. BRIS- Mayes
8. RICH- GRUNDDDYYY

Within the realms of possibility?

If Richmond had a choice of Grundy or Wines they would be doing handstands.

 

[tigs2010]

tigs2010 if the draft was to unfold as IF has it above do you think we'd stick with Vlastuin or go for Mayes/Stringer?

We won't take Stringer. 50/50 on the Mayes call as to whether we would do it. Pretty sure I had Mayes at pick 3 in my mock draft on the drafts board for awhile so I rated him higher than most. My only concern is he doesn't get enough of it. Vlastuin would help more next year but I could see Mayes becoming an absolute gun if developed properly.

 

[Tigerbob]

Nice work Tigerbob. Appreciate it. I would have thought if Melbourne are still selecting at 4 they would be keen. Jamar is 29 and injuries are starting to hit. They would be kicking themselves at missing out on Nic Nat + they got a top 5 midfield talent in Viney for 26.

No worries, here to pass on what I hear. Not concrete but it does come from people within the industry.

I must admit, Wines has virtually been promised to be taken by Melbourne if he was there, now they may not be even selecting. So I would totally discount them.

Seen the inside footy stuff, Grundy at 7, suits me fine, shows he is dropping and only Port in the way. Chances are getting higher.

 

[Dragonss]

No way will the AFL take away Melbourne's picks. THey're too pussy to do so.

 

[THE_GUN]

XMAS will come early if we get Grundy with our selection, If we are also Spot on with #32 -#34 - #43 This will be 1 fantastic Draft the fixes so many of our structual issues

 

[Damo80]

No way will the AFL take away Melbourne's picks. THey're too pussy to do so.

Sadly, I think you might be right

 

[Richo83]

Grundy arrives it would not only fix structural problems but also Richmond doesn't have to waste senior spots on players like Browne and Graham.

 

[DoItForCaptBlood]

No way will the AFL take away Melbourne's picks. THey're too pussy to do so.

I think it is more of a case of not enough time. Now Melbourne are talking 'lawyers', we can assume it will be months after the definite announcement from the AFL saying they "tanked'. So the investigations take months, then Melbourne start fighting it....and the draft is coming in a few weeks!

 

[Tigerbob]

Sadly, I think you might be right

Andy D is embarrassed, made to look the fool with this tanking stuff. He won't be lenient.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...ng-investigation/story-e6frg6n6-1226507574961

Everything coming out of the AFL is this is big. Adelaide and Tippett on the backburner big. I expect Melbourne to be punished more than anyone else ever has. The league will be a laughing stock if not.

I have also heard gambling agents putting pressure on the AFL. The integrity of the game has been damaged. Melbourne (not the only ones who have done it, but got caught with evidence) will be punished to the full extent I imagine. AFL would look foolish if they don't. I know a club that is now factoring pick 4 removed from Melbourne.

 

[Wacky Tiger]

Andy D is embarrassed, made to look the fool with this tanking stuff. He won't be lenient.

I know a club that is now factoring pick 4 removed from Melbourne.

Is it us Bob

 

[blaisee]

I dont want a ruckman at 9, dont care how good he is.

Thats for free agency is for, taking ruckman.

Good solid genuine midfielder thanks, one that can kick a goal would be a bonus

 

[Richo83]

I dont want a ruckman at 9, dont care how good he is.

Thats for free agency is for, taking ruckman.

Good solid genuine midfielder thanks, one that can kick a goal would be a bonus

Best ruckman since Naitanui. Would fix our tall problem almost immediately and completely.

 

[Wacky Tiger]

Yeah with the interchange rules and ruck rules changing the all rounder big man is going to be super important. One that can go forward and kick goals instead of sitting on the bench. If Grundy is there surely we take him. A Grundy/Vickery duo when Maric throws it in will last us well into the future. But in all honesty i cant see Grundy lasting to us and im not dissapointed in that at all. We are in a Win Win Win situation of whoever is avaliable should be a quality player with the depth and our draft position of this draft.

 

[blaisee]

Best ruckman since Naitanui. Would fix our tall problem almost immediately and completely.

its a risk

grundy is no Nicnat,

very difficult to project how good a 17 yr old 200cm player will be in 5 years, when their bodies are ready for AFL, thats why the swans dont draft ruckman, and GWS are avoiding it. It is also why the best ruckman in the league Cox and Sandliands are both rookies, as was Jolly by the way, avoid

 

[Harmichael]

I dont want a ruckman at 9, dont care how good he is.

Thats for free agency is for, taking ruckman.

Good solid genuine midfielder thanks, one that can kick a goal would be a bonus

If Grundy falls to our pick and we overlook him, we might as well pack it in as an AFL club and go back to the VFA.

Some kids are worth overruling the needs criteria for and this kid's worth it and then some.

To paraphrase Richie Benaud - you should take best available over needs with your first pick nine times out of ten and the tenth time you should think about and then take best available.

 

[Tomnat Tigers]

its a risk

grundy is no Nicnat,

very difficult to project how good a 17 yr old 200cm player will be in 5 years, when their bodies are ready for AFL, thats why the swans dont draft ruckman, and GWS are avoiding it. It is also why the best ruckman in the league Cox and Sandliands are both rookies, as was Jolly by the way, avoid

Grundy is better then what Nic nat was at under 18 level.

 

[Richo83]

its a risk

grundy is no Nicnat,

You sure about that? Because you then say....

very difficult to project how good a 17 yr old 200cm player will be in 5 years,

Which one is it, that we can predict that Grundy is no Naitanui, or that we don't know what he'll be?

when their bodies are ready for AFL, thats why the swans dont draft ruckman, and GWS are avoiding it. It is also why the best ruckman in the league Cox and Sandliands are both rookies, as was Jolly by the way, avoid

The best ruckman in the league is Naitanui, who was drafted at pick two. If Sydney had the chance to draft Grundy, they would.

I think Grundy to Richmond would be the coup of the decade and would mean Richmond would probably only need 3, four maximum ruckmen on it's list.

 

[Harmichael]

Besides we need mids and technically ruckmen are midfielders.

 

[Richo83]

Grundy is better then what Nic nat was at under 18 level.

I am worried though, there tends to be one good ruckman in every draft, then a distinct drop in quality towards the second one. Does Grundy have stiff enough competition? I'm wondering how his competition compares to the likes of Leuenberger and Naitanui.