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2012 Injuries - All teams *Carlton complete wrap up Post 62*

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Essendon's first-22 (or somewhat-close-to-it) injuries are Hurley (3 weeks);
Myers, Winderlich, NLM, McVeigh, Hille all soft tissue, about a week or two away,
Dempsey (test), and Colyer with a broken thumb.

Prismall/Gumby also on the comeback trail from long term injuries, and 4 kids (Browne, Nic O'Brien, Merrett, and Ross) who haven't really played are also out.
 
Weagles only 1 or 2 injuries (Kerr and Cox) away from sinking to the bottom (of the 8!).

On top of LaCras, Nickoffski and Embly they have now lost our old friend Josh for a protracted period.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/134577/default.aspx

So far they have covered for them well, but so far they have only played the Hawks as a team of any real quality and that was a locked down hard slog in the wet in the west.

It will be interesting to see how they go against a decent side on the MCG. We play them over there in 6 or 7 weeks. I doubt any of them will be back by then by the sounds of things. And if they lose Cox and or Kerr, they might really start to struggle.
 
Poor bastard. Always wish the best for Josh (unless that means beating us).

Going to make it a lot harder for the Ducks. Their injury list is slowly approaching what ours was last year.
 

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Stamos said:
SEN have just said that Nat Fyfe has left training clutching his shoulder.
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No that was definately a Louis Vuitton :eek:

Joking aside its likely he will continue to leave grounds in shoulder pain until they bite the bullet and have the op.
 
Sector 7G said:
The Age is reporting Kennedy is out for 12 weeks for ankle surgery. Shame after last years break out season. Evens the comp out a little. Will be interesting to see if Darling can step up in the KPF role.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/eagles-lose-kennedy-for-up-to-three-months-20120501-1xwd0.html
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I have never been a punter so I dont really understand how odds work, but if I have this correctly, the bookies currently rate Nth ($5.00) almost double the odds of beating them at Patterson next weekend that we are in 7 weeks time ($9.00) and Essendon (I assume over here then) are comparatively dead set certs to beat them at $2.50. Is that how it works?
 
40yearBLUE said:
I have never been a punter so I dont really understand how odds work, but if I have this correctly, the bookies currently rate Nth ($5.00) almost double the odds of beating them at Patterson next weekend that we are in 7 weeks time ($9.00) and Essendon (I assume over here then) are comparatively dead set certs to beat them at $2.50. Is that how it works?
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Those are the odds of when WC have their first loss not the odds of each side beating WC.
 
40yearBLUE said:
Yes but most of ours are fringe or havent even debuted yet. Carrots, Laidler are the 2 main 22 we have.
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Emberly and Nicoski would have "retired" after last season if the Eagles didn't make the finals. Their careers were saved by their career best season, who knows if they would have repeated that this season.
 

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yibbida said:
Emberly and Nicoski would have "retired" after last season if the Eagles didn't make the finals. Their careers were saved by their career best season, who knows if they would have repeated that this season.
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I think that is a stretch. So in effect you are saying you would rather have Davies, White, Okeefe injured but on your list than Embley or Nickoski? Please.

I am a blue blinkered fan most of the time, but our 3 combined are not to the standard of either of those. I would not be surprised if 2 of those 3 are delisted come seasons end.
 
Sector 7G said:
Those are the odds of when WC have their first loss not the odds of each side beating WC.
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I understand that, but what they are saying is Nth is a bit of threat this weekend, but get over that and Essendon are a huge threat the week after, in fact more of a threat than Freo in a derby at Patterson who have regularly troubled the Eagles, and then get undefeated as far as RD13, which means from now till then more chance of injury to key players, and of course as each week goes on the odds of finally coming unstuck nominally increase (they in fact dont, all other things being equal, each game starts at 50/50) and we are a relative pushover compared to Nth this week and Ess the week after?

And then going later in the year, so confident of the roll the eagles will be on, they have Collingwood and Hawthorn at $250.

Yep that makes sense :confused:
 
40yearBLUE said:
I understand that, but what they are saying is Nth is a bit of threat this weekend, but get over that and Essendon are a huge threat the week after, in fact more of a threat than Freo in a derby at Patterson who have regularly troubled the Eagles, and then get undefeated as far as RD13, which means from now till then more chance of injury to key players, and of course as each week goes on the odds of finally coming unstuck nominally increase (they in fact dont, all other things being equal, each game starts at 50/50) and we are a relative pushover compared to Nth this week and Ess the week after?

And then going later in the year, so confident of the roll the eagles will be on, they have Collingwood at $250.

Yep that makes sense :confused:
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What the bookies are counting on is that the Eagles will have lost a game before the play us as the head to head odds would be close to even money. Hence even if we win we will not be the Eagles first loss for the year.
 
Sector 7G said:
What the bookies are counting on is that the Eagles will have lost a game before the play us as the head to head odds would be close to even money. Hence even if we win we will not be the Eagles first loss for the year.
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Yeah, sorry still dont fully understand how it works. They think Nth are a 5:1 chance of being WC first defeat but they think that Ess are 2.5:1 so comparitively speaking double the threat and a much better chance. So I assume Nth is in WA, Ess is at MCG, ok fair enough, I get that.

But then if WC are 7 zip after Essendon then dont worry about the Saints they are a push over etc. I just dont get it. Anyway, I dont much care, I am never going to have a punt and I dont much care what bookies rate what at. They have us as flag favorites :p
 
40yearBLUE said:
I think that is a stretch. So in effect you are saying you would rather have Davies, White, Okeefe injured but on your list than Embley or Nickoski? Please.

I am a blue blinkered fan most of the time, but our 3 combined are not to the standard of either of those. I would not be surprised if 2 of those 3 are delisted come seasons end.
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All the talk over here before last season was that Embely was playing his last season (1 year contract) and Nicoski was on his last chance to show something (1 year contract). The fact that they had career best seasons last year inflates what would have been expected of them this year.

We also have Casboult & Mitchell on long term injuries. Big things were expected of Mitchell this season judging by his pre-season. Casboult would have been a option if we lost a few KPP/rucks to injury.
 
yibbida said:
All the talk over here before last season was that Embely was playing his last season (1 year contract) and Nicoski was on his last chance to show something (1 year contract). The fact that they had career best seasons last year inflates what would have been expected of them this year.

We also have Casboult & Mitchell on long term injuries. Big things were expected of Mitchell this season judging by his pre-season. Casboult would have been a option if we lost a few KPP/rucks to injury.
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OK I will put it to you another way, Laidler and Carrots aside who are proven, so too are Embley and Nicoski, they did that last year, proved themselves (and not just last year, Nickoski is rated like Tex, suffered from injury but always promised to be a gun, and of course Embley has been for many years). The rest of the players on our list with the possible exception of Mitchell are marginal first graders at best. And truth be told, Mitchell is still only the promise of a gun, but hasnt yet played his first game. I remember when Edwards and Hartlett were the promise that Mitchell currently is. Until he delivers on that promise, I would still bank on an Embley and Nickoski or of course a Kennedy before any of the injured besides Laids and Carrots.
 

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Massive out for the Eagles. While injuries to anyone arn't great Eagles supporters will feel some of the pain we had to endure last year with the likes of Waite and Jamo out for extended periods.

TBH I was getting sick and tired of WC flogs on bigfooty last season telling me how our outs didn't make much difference to our finishing position, or our results against them.
 
Blue since 72 said:
Massive out for the Eagles. While injuries to anyone arn't great Eagles supporters will feel some of the pain we had to endure last year with the likes of Waite and Jamo out for extended periods.

TBH I was getting sick and tired of WC flogs on bigfooty last season telling me how our outs didn't make much difference to our finishing position.
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Yep. The Collingwood game was the first time (or the first time in years) since Jamo, Waite and Kruze had lined up in the same game. Last year at one stage or another 4 of our best big men (add Hendo who started the season late due to recovery from injury effecting his match fitness) out of the line up.

Now lets take Kennedy, Lynch, Cox and Glass out of their line up at some stages during the year and only have 2 available for any given game and see how they fair. Good Luck Darling (and Nicnat), you will need it should that scenario arise.
 

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