2012 Predictions

[donbooger]

Hawthorn
Collingwood
Geelong
Carlton
Fremantle
West Coast
Sydney
St Kilda

North Melbourne
Essendon
Adelaide
Richmond
Melbourne
Western Bulldogs
Brisbane
Gold Coast
Port
GWS

Premiers - Geelong over Hawthorn
Brownlow - Murphy
Coleman - Buddy

 

[Red Black and Blue]

HAHAHAHA this thread makes me LOL! every year is exactly the same thing. everyone writes Sydney off and they always prove 90% of people wrong.

Sydney are in better shape for next year than they were at the start of this year. will be knocking on the door of top 4 next year.

If I'm wrong I'll wear it, I've been wrong before and I've been right before, no one knows what will happen, I'm taking an educated guess based on what improvements I think will come from a lot of sides next year.

Goodes, O'Keefe and Bolton are heavily relied on and are all the 31-32 next year, they might not drop off, if they don't Sydney will still be around the mark.

If they do you might be in a bit of trouble while you wait for Reid, Rohan, Hannabery, Smith, Parker and Johnson get to the 100 games/senior player position.

There is still some good senior talent there in Jack, Kennedy, Mumford, Mcveigh, McGlynn, Grundy. With the exception of Mumford there isn't any A Graders. Needing some serious improvement from this group to stem the flow against some of the sides who have picked up a lot of elite talent through years of low finishes.

 

[Blue and Silver]

See I don't understand this rationale. I would list our 'older boys' as:

Dean Cox
Darren Glass
Andrew Embley
Mark Nicoski
Quentin Lynch
Daniel Kerr

We have able replacements for each. Mackenzie has proven himself to be a seriously good full back this season and takes the oppositions best forward every week. Embley has Rosa and Gaff competing for his position, if he goes down we can manage. Nicoski is hardly a 'crucial player' and we have plenty of replacements for him should he go down with injury. Lynch was great in 2011 but he tailed off toward the end, and we won games without him (Geelong Rd16), while we only lost one game Kerr wasn't playing in this year, to St Kilda. While we would need him on the park we're hardly 'shot' without him, as he only played roughly 15 games this season anyway, maybe less?

Dean Cox you might have a point about. A very important player, but Naitanui has more than proven himself capable as a number one ruck. Considering Cox was at about 50% capacity in the remaining 6 weeks of this season, I think we can cope if he gets injured. However, it's whether or not Lynch/Lycett will be able to back NN up effectively should the situation arise.

This thread isn't meant for picking each other apart but I just feel this 'reliance' West Coast seem to have on senior players (in the eyes of other fans) is very overstated.

These guys have very shaky injury records.

If Cox goes down is Natanui ready for solo ruck work (support form Lycett)? Without Kerr is Priddis enough to win the clearances? What happens if Mckenzie can't get a hold of a Cloke, Petrie or Franklin?

Then there is your impending draw which will be much harder then this years, and the fact that the press is already on its way out (short fast ball movement is the key, thank you Clarkson).

I see it falling apart for West Coast. Maybe I am wrong

 

[X_box_X]

1) Hawthorn
They remind me of St. Kilda from three years ago. Ready to explode.

2) Collingwood
They remind me of Geelong. Collingwood's 2010 season was like Geelong's 2007 season. Collingwood's 2011 season was like Geelong's 2008 season. Even before Geelong started winning premierships, they had good seasons, much like Collingwood before they broke through in 2010. Geelong were a kick away from the Grand Final in 2004, much like Collingwood in 2007. Geelong got eliminated in the Semi Final in 2005, same as Collingwood in 2008. Collingwood were the best team all year in 2011, but failed to win the flag, much like Geelong in 2008.

The problem here is St. Kilda should have beaten Geelong in the 2009 Grand Final. They didn't, but that's another story. I'd back Hawthorn in to get the job done against Collingwood, but it will be a close one.

3) Geelong
If they wanna win it and can keep a healthy list, they can. Will the romance die away, will their passion still be as strong?

4) Carlton
Something heating up in the kitchen and I can smell it.

5) West Coast
Home ground advantage too big. Other teams will work them out, but they will only naturally improve with age, so it will make up for it.

6) Essendon

7) St. Kilda

8) North Melbourne

9) Western Bulldogs

10) Sydney

11) Melbourne

12) Fremantle
13) Adelaide
14) Richmond
15) Brisbane
16) Gold Coast
17) Port Adelaide
18) GWS

 

[Better_Than_You]

Hawthorn – things will come together, perfect mix of size, speed and experience
Geelong – still the best pure footy team in the comp, ready made replacements for any retiring stars
West Coast – will continue to improve and learn from this year’s finals losses, plus manage players better throughout the season so they are fresher come the business end
Fremantle – the big improver, Lyon has more quality here than he did at the Saints
Carlton – on the verge of the big boys but still a few keys players away
Collingwood – will take a while for Buckley to make his mark, a fair bit of change in their best team too
Sydney – youngsters showed enough for another finals berth while the old timers are still around
Richmond – finals this season as Cotchin and Martin step into the elite bracket

Essendon – not sold on their quality and depth, or defensive game
St.Kilda – still top end quality but questionable depth
Adelaide – can a new coach rejuvenate them quickly?
North Melbourne – same old same old here, middle of the road again
Brisbane – plenty to like about their kids, but Browny near the end and not much depth
Bulldogs – rough year ahead here, and maybe the next few years
Gold Coast – will win 5-7 games and kids will continue to develop
Port Adelaide – don’t see where the improvement will come from
GWS – will struggle to be competitive, and will cop a hiding most weeks

I see next season as being super tight, with 2 or 3 games separating the top six and another couple separating 7-12. 17 wins could be enough for top spot, but 14 may not get you a top 4 berth.

Finals
Hawthorn def Fremantle
Geelong def West Coast
Carlton def Richmond
Collingwood def Sydney

West Coast def Collingwood
Fremantle def Carlton

Hawthorn def West Coast
Geelong def Fremantle

Premiers – Hawthorn
Brownlow – Murphy
Coleman – Franklin
Norm Smith - Mitchell

 

[Suma Magic]

Lynch would still be our second ruck you'd think. Depends how Lycett's preseason goes.

We went alright without Kerr this year although he was great when he played.

Our depth of KPDs is an issue, especially as all of them seem to be injury prone.

I don't think we'll fall apart. But I do think we'll have to perform better to get the same amount of wins. Even though we finished 2.5 games clear of 5th I still think we'll drop out of the top 4, but not out of the top 8.

 

[Tedeski]

Wow! I'm surprised at how many have the Swans in the 8 this year.

LOL at Richmond supporters predicting the Tigers will make the 8.

Hardwick will be sacked by round 18!!

 

[HappyChappy35]

1) Hawthorn
They remind me of St. Kilda from three years ago. Ready to explode.
2) Collingwood
They remind me of Geelong. Collingwood's 2010 season was like Geelong's 2007 season. Collingwood's 2011 season was like Geelong's 2008 season. Even before Geelong started winning premierships, they had good seasons, much like Collingwood before they broke through in 2010. Geelong were a kick away from the Grand Final in 2004, much like Collingwood in 2007. Geelong got eliminated in the Semi Final in 2005, same as Collingwood in 2008. Collingwood were the best team all year in 2011, but failed to win the flag, much like Geelong in 2008.
The problem here is St. Kilda should have beaten Geelong in the 2009 Grand Final. They didn't, but that's another story. I'd back Hawthorn in to get the job done against Collingwood, but it will be a close one.
3) Geelong
If they wanna win it and can keep a healthy list, they can. Will the romance die away, will their passion still be as strong?
4) Carlton
Something heating up in the kitchen and I can smell it.
5) West Coast
Home ground advantage too big. Other teams will work them out, but they will only naturally improve with age, so it will make up for it.
6) Essendon
7) St. Kilda
8) North Melbourne
9) Western Bulldogs
10) Sydney
11) Melbourne
12) Fremantle
13) Adelaide
14) Richmond
15) Brisbane
16) Gold Coast
17) Port Adelaide
18) GWS

Think you may be right here, probably the best prediction I've seen thus far in this thread. Only questionable predictions here are Saints in 7th rather than Freo (provided the Dockers have a good run with injuries in 2012), and North in the 8 rather than the Swans. Other than that I have a feeling you may be on the money there.

 

[X_box_X]

Think you may be right here, probably the best prediction I've seen thus far in this thread. Only questionable predictions here are Saints in 7th rather than Freo (provided the Dockers have a good run with injuries in 2012), and North in the 8 rather than the Swans. Other than that I have a feeling you may be on the money there.

The Freo one to miss the eight is one I'm going to hit hard on the punting market and hope for a $3 return. That's great odds for a team who missed the eight last year. Too many injury prone players now, and I'm not so confident they will get all of their squad fit and firing.

On paper, I would agree they should finish 4th-6th, but Sandilands continues to miss games with injury, and there will be too much pressure on McPharlin if Silvagni can't stay on the park. A reason they struggled in defence last year was also due to them losing Tarrant after a great 2010 season.

Broughton played through injury throughout the final month of the season, and that was only due to Freo not having enough players available to play, otherwise his season would have ended earlier. Will be keen to see if this impacts his preseason.

Barlow should be better for the run, but you have to consider him injury prone. Mundy will be a welcome addition to the midfield, but he's coming off a pretty serious injury so may take time for him to turn to his best.

Fyfe's shoulders are of a concern, reminds me so much of Nick Holland/Corey McKernan/Jason Porplyzia, once you do the shoulder more than once, it can be a prick.

Not sure how much impact Morabito will have. He's going to be a gun, but he's pretty much going to be a second year player next year. Can't expect him to set the world on fire, although he should be good.

Freo are the most interesting team to watch in 2011. For mine they are anyway. Interested to see how they structure up under a new coach. Their recruiting has been sublime recently, so it wouldn't surprise me at all if they finished top four, but I'd like a gamble to say they won't.

Worked for me in 2010 when I successfully predicted Brisbane wouldn't make the top eight after they did well in 2009 and recruited the likes of Fev, Buchanan, Staker, Clark and a fifth player whose name escapes me at the moment, but the reason I had for them underachieving was under similar circumstances to why I think Freo may not do as well as expected.

 

[Tippaz]

i know this will change a million times but here goes

1. Hawthorn
2. Collingwood
3. Carlton
4. Fremantle
5. Geelong
6. St Kilda
7. Adelaide
8. Melbourne

9. West Coast
10. Sydney
11. Richmond
12. Kangaroos
13. Essendon
14. Brisbane
15. Gold Coast
16. Port Adel
17. Bulldogs
18. GWS

 

[pazza]

1. Geelong
2. Hawthorn
3. Carlton
4. West Coast
5. Essendon
6. Sydney
7. Collingwood
8. North Melbourne
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9. Melbourne
10. Richmond
11. St. Kilda
12. Fremantle
13. Footscray
14. Gold Coast
15. Brisbane
16. Adelaide
17. Port Adelaide
18. Western Sydney

Finals:

Geelong defeat West Coast
Hawthorn defeat Carlton
Essendon defeat North Melbourne
Sydney defeat Collingwood

West Coast defeat Essendon
Carlton defeat Sydney

Geelong defeat Carlton
Hawthorn defeat West Coast

Geelong defeat Hawthorn

 

[Cheesewheel]

1. Hawthorn
2. Collingwood
3. Geelong
4. Carlton
5. Fremantle
6. West Coast
7. Sydney
8. North Melbourne

9. Essendon
10. Richmond
11. St Kilda
12. Adelaide
13. Melbourne
14. Gold Coast
15. Brisbane
16. Western Bulldogs
17. Port Adelaide
18. GWS

Hawthorn win the flag in 2012.

 

[jonoman89]

But the real improvement came from our younger players.

Completely disagree.

Cox, Kerr, Glass, Embley, Butler, Priddis etc.....all had great years, all are experienced players. With the exception of maybe one or two, all of your old match winners had great years.

Cox, Kerr and Embley in particular all looked completely past it 2008-2010 due to bad form and injury. Complete turn around.

Much more of your improvement was due to that than the improvement to the younger blokes. They improved as well, but to suggest that it was Ebert, Brown, Scofield etc. leading you to the top 4.....no way.

A fit and firing Cox by himself is worth an extra win or two per season.

Provided that injury doesn't strike too hard, i see the Eagles having a similar year to this year. 3rd-6th.

North and Freo to be the bolters.

 

[cinderella man]

Forgot to do this last year so I better have a go now. Will edit pending fixtures.

1. Hawthorn (need a good run with injuries)
2. Collingwood (still enough talent there to finish top 2)
3. Carlton (can they take the next step?)
4. Geelong (if they can finish top 4 watch out come september)
5. Essendon (wishful thinking? probably, but with a new fitness coach hopefully we can get bigger and stronger over the off season.)
6. Fremantle (injuries smashed them this year, new coach new era. Could swap them with Essendon)
7. West Coast (not convinced they will improve)
8. North Melbourne (will scrape into the finals and lose the elimination final by some margin)
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9. Sydney (lost too many games they should have won last season, Goodes isn't getting any younger)
10. Richmond (need more consistency)
11. St Kilda (the rebuild begins)
12. Brisbane (could possibly finish higher with Merrett and Brown fit and firing, showed good development in their mids. A lot of potential to work with)
13. Western Bulldogs (hard one to pick, could finish anywhere from 6th to 13th)
14. Melbourne (another team with big question marks, will need to improve)
15. Gold Coast (will improve)
16. Adelaide (the exits of a lot of key young players will hurt them)
17. Port Adelaide (really poor team, can't see where the improvement will come from)
18. GWS (will struggle)

Sydney lost to many games they should have won last year ? Since when will games won in 2011 be added to what you win 2012 ? This is why threads like this are a complete waste of time. Its a given they are not close to challenging for a premiership just now but again went to 2nd week of finals after beating the premiers at their fortress a couple of weeks before finals.Year was a big passmark considering bookends Bolton and Bradshaw never got on the ground and Johnson and Reid bobbed up and showed given time they will more than fill their shoes. As far as Goodes not getting any younger the same morons said the Swans would die when Paul Kelly retired.We know what happened there dont we,a flag a couple of years later ! Swans will fall like every club does at some stage but if your going to predict it and then give your prognosis, try coming up with something better than the first thing that comes into your head .

 

[camiam]

Wow! I'm surprised at how many have the Swans in the 8 this year.

LOL at Richmond supporters predicting the Tigers will make the 8.

Hardwick will be sacked by round 18!!

Lol at your stupid comment. Just because your team will die off

 

[LionMen]

1. Hawthorn
2. Collingwood
3. Carlton
4. West Coast
5. Sydney
6. Fremantle
7. Geelong
8. Melbourne
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9. Richmond
10. Adelaide
11. Essendon
12. North Melbourne
13. St Kilda
14. Gold Coast
15. Brisbane
16. Western Bulldogs
17. Port Adelaide
18. GWS

 

[Greasyrhys]

1. Hawthorn (wins: 18-20) Premiers
2. Geelong (17-18)
3. Carlton (15-16) Runner-up
4. West Coast (15-18) NAB Cup winners
5. Collingwood (13-15)
6. Sydney (12-13)
7. North Melb. (12-13)
8. Fremantle (10-12)

9. Essendon (10-12)
10. Richmond (9-11)
11. W. Bulldogs (9-10)
12. Melbourne (8-10)
13. Adelaide (7-8)
14. Brisbane (7-8)
15. Gold Coast (5-7)
16. GWS (4-5)
17. Port Adelaide (3-4)
18. St. Kilda (2-4)

Brownlow: Sam Mitchell
Coleman: Lance Franklin
Rising Star: Chad Wingard (from Sturt)

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

Sydney defeat Collingwood

lolwut?

 

[Gumblestar]

1. Collingwood
2. Hawthorn
3. Geelong
4. Fremantle
5. Carlton
6. North Melbourne
7. Richmond
8. Sydney
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9. West Coast
10. Essendon
11. St Kilda
12. Adelaide
13. Melbourne
14. Gold Coast
15. Brisbane
16. Western Bulldogs
17. Port Adelaide
18. GWS

Richmond are going to make the finals are they?

 

[TheRedPill]

1. Collingwood
2. Hawthorn
3. Carlton
4. Geelong
5. Sydney
6. West Coast
7. Fremantle
8. North Melbourne
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9. Essendon
10. St Kilda
11. Melbourne
12. Richmond
13. Brisbane
14. Adelaide
15. Gold Coast
16. Port Adelaide
17. Western Bulldogs
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18. GWS

Week 1
Collingwood d Geelong
Carlton d Hawthorn
Sydney d North
West Coast d Fremantle

Week 2
Sydney d Geelong
Hawthorn d West Coast

Week 3
Carlton d Sydney
Collingwood d Hawthorn

Premiers: Collingwood
Norm Smith: Travis Cloke
Brownlow: Gary Ablett
Coleman: Lance Franklin
Rising Star: Jared Polec
Inflation Rate: 2.57%

 

[awesummm]

1- Swans
2- Nth Melbourne
3- Essendon
4- Fremantle
5- Hawthrone
6- West Coast
7- Brisbane
8- Adelaide
9- Richmond
10- Collingwood
11- St Kilda
12- Brisbane
13- Geelong
14- Dogs
15- Port
16- Gold Coast
17- Melborune
18- GWS

just watch

 

[Summer Nights]

1. Hawthorn
2. Geelong
3. Collingwood
4. Fremantle
5. Essendon
6. Carlton
7. West Coast
8. Richmond
9. North
10. St. Kilda
11. Sydney
12. Brisbane
13. Adelaide
14. Gold Coast
15. Port Adelaide
16. Western Bulldogs
17. Melbourne
18. GWS

 

[TheCuzEffect]

My predictions will be up once trade week is finished.

 

[BLUES9898]

1- Swans
2- Nth Melbourne
3- Essendon
4- Fremantle
5- Hawthrone
6- West Coast
7- Brisbane
8- Adelaide
9- Richmond
10- Collingwood
11- St Kilda
12- Brisbane
13- Geelong
14- Dogs
15- Port
16- Gold Coast
17- Melborune
18- GWS

just watch

Brisbane to have two teams and Carlton to die off

 

[satan1]

1- Swans
2- Nth Melbourne
3- Essendon
4- Fremantle
5- Hawthrone
6- West Coast
7- Brisbane
8- Adelaide
9- Richmond
10- Collingwood
11- St Kilda
12- Brisbane
13- Geelong
14- Dogs
15- Port
16- Gold Coast
17- Melborune
18- GWS

just watch

I personally can't wait to see Carlton kicked out of the league in preference to the new Brisbane Bush-rangers.